Russo: HHH worst booker I've ever seen

I think that people don't remember just how bad WWE was in the 2010s.

More people watched though

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Before any weirdos in here freak out, it was a joke

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I don't see what's so egregiously bad about smiling before you tap.
It looks silly. Oddly enough, it looks sillier in Pro-Wrestling than it would in MMA, because at least in MMA you would know it was genuine. This felt like a bad scene in a good movie.
 
Attitude Era fan & Casual fan opinion -
Triple-H is one of the few people involved in WWE for three decades who is really hard to get a read on.

On one hand...he obviously is a political figure who wormed his way from just being an on-screen talent to be an off-screen shot-caller.
What is damn near unforgivable is how he betrayed and cheated on Chyna, which she never got over and spiraled into drug addiction and overdosing.

On the other hand... he seems to be a damn good off-screen shot-caller.
The last few years of WWE have been the absolute best since the Attitude Era.
Has he made some bad calls? Yeah. Who wouldn't in his position?

Its like every football fan wishes they were the GM of their favorite team, making all of the decisions and it'd be a guarantee the team would win the national championship, right?
Wrong. You're a fan. Chances are you might be able to manage a Wendys, but not a billion-dollar sports franchise.

It's the exact same situation here.
Oh Vince Russo thinks he's the worst booker ever?
Do we need to review his resume for his most brilliant decisions?
I'll summarize it with the two worst in both major organization he worked in.
WWF - Brawl For All
WCW - David Arquette becoming Heavyweight Champion.

If I were Triple-H I'd send Russo flowers for giving him the most sincere compliment he could have given him.
 
It looks silly. Oddly enough, it looks sillier in Pro-Wrestling than it would in MMA, because at least in MMA you would know it was genuine. This felt like a bad scene in a good movie.

When it's done well pro wrestling is storytelling although with the in ring stuff that's somewhat of a lost art. With storytelling context is important. If he'd pulled the face in the context of a world title match then I would agree that it was stupid.

In the context of a guy in his final match who'd just tried to fight off a sub for five minutes only to repeatedly end up back in it finally letting go and deciding that his time has passed and this once it's okay to give up? I think it was great.
 
Anyone complaining about Cena losing his last match is a filthy low-T new casual fan.

You go out looking at the lights. That's how it works.

Fuck the internet soyboys.

I don't think he got boo'd for booking the Cena fight alone but a culmination of reasons like what I wrote in the OP.
 
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I don't think he got boo'd for booking the Cena fight alone but a culmination of reasons like what I wrote in the OP.

I dunno if I'd blame him for cutting Killer Kross. He cut that one good promo but from the brief amount I've seen of him in the ring he's pretty shit.

LA Knight too. I like his promos but do I want to watch him wrestle 30 minute PPV main events? Not really.
 
I dunno if I'd blame him for cutting Killer Kross. He cut that one good promo but from the brief amount I've seen of him in the ring he's pretty shit.

LA Knight too. I like his promos but do I want to watch him wrestle 30 minute PPV main events? Not really.

Good angles can be made with rasslers with a limited skillset. Stone Cold post neck injury had six to eight moves, Cena and Batista were never versatile performers.

It would be HHH's dumb luck if Jericho rejoined WWE and formed a new stable. They better not screw that up if it happens.

 
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Good angles can be made with rasslers with a limited skillset. Stone Cold post neck injury had six to eight moves, Cena and Batista were never versatile performers.

It would be HHH's dumb luck if Jericho rejoined WWE and formed a new stable. They better not screw that up if it happens.



Austin had amazing intensity and facials though. Few guys have been able to do as much with as little as that guy. LA Knight isn't in the same stratosphere as him.

Cena and Batista? I'm kind of catching up on their era but I'm an in-ring guy and do they really have a good match catalogue?
 
I already felt that WWE died when it went PG and started pushing little baby men, but man, with HHH in control......holy shit. What's worse than dead? Hell? WWE is in hell now.
 
Austin had amazing intensity and facials though. Few guys have been able to do as much with as little as that guy. LA Knight isn't in the same stratosphere as him.

Cena and Batista? I'm kind of catching up on their era but I'm an in-ring guy and do they really have a good match catalogue?
Cena and Batista had a bunch of forgettable feuds but if the point of having a wrestling show is have babyfaces and have them perform, they could've at least give them feuds even mediocre ones, as long as the fans could get to see guys they care about. And they obviously care about Knight and Kross.
 
Cena and Batista had a bunch of forgettable feuds but if the point of having a wrestling show is have babyfaces and have them perform, they could've at least give them feuds even mediocre ones, as long as the fans could get to see guys they care about. And they obviously care about Knight and Kross.

My interpretation of Kross was that he left just after R-Truth so the fans briefly did the same thing but they didn't bring him back and I don't really see anybody giving a shit about it now.
 
My interpretation of Kross was that he left just after R-Truth so the fans briefly did the same thing but they didn't bring him back and I don't really see anybody giving a shit about it now.
I agree with this. People will care for 5 minutes if WWE bring him back, just like they did for Truth. Otherwise he ain't gonna be drawing in NWA or TNA.
 
Cena and Batista had a bunch of forgettable feuds but if the point of having a wrestling show is have babyfaces and have them perform, they could've at least give them feuds even mediocre ones, as long as the fans could get to see guys they care about. And they obviously care about Knight and Kross.
Eh', I think Kross is more of an internet darling. They like what he says outside of the ring for the most part, but you could hear a mouse fart when he's wrestling. He's nowhere close to where LA Knight is, in terms of fandom.
 
Eh', I think Kross is more of an internet darling. They like what he says outside of the ring for the most part, but you could hear a mouse fart when he's wrestling. He's nowhere close to where LA Knight is, in terms of fandom.

Yeah that's why they got this guy.
 
Yeah that's why they got this guy.

You're not seriously comparing the two, in terms of notoriety are you? Paul is an internet mega star and he got to stick around because he's actually really good at this pro wrestling thing.

Kross is a completely forgettable wrestling talent, who gets some attention for talking shit occasionally.
 
You're not seriously comparing the two, in terms of notoriety are you? Paul is an internet mega star and he got to stick around because he's actually really good at this pro wrestling thing.

Kross is a completely forgettable wrestling talent, who gets some attention for talking shit occasionally.
I'm saying that any type of internet fandom a rassler gains should serve the "product" well, which is why I included Zack Ryder in the OP. HHH doesn't like wrestlers who can gain notoriety by themselves on the internet. He couldn't book himself well when he was part of DX, and he had to marry the boss' daughter for longevity in the business. I think when he sees that Kross/Knight/Rider can get themselves over, he gets insecure.
 
I'm saying that any type of internet fandom should serve the "product" well, which is why I included Zack Ryder in the OP.
But Kross is nowhere close to that level. Not everyone who gets clicks here and there for occasional shoot interviews gets a contract. It's not a free for all. For all the shit Kross talks about being held down or whatever, he doesn't back it up as a wrestler. He's simply not very good. He has an okay look, and that's about it. Boring on the mic, boring in the ring.
 
Kross wasn't cut or fired by WWE. WWE offered him a new contract, he didn't take it because they didn't offer his wife a new one as well. He chose to leave.

WWE even gave him several PLE matches on the way out and let him promote his book on their programming knowing he was leaving, which they didn't have to do.

WWE treated that guy way better than they had to.
 
Kross wasn't cut or fired by WWE. WWE offered him a new contract, he didn't take it because they didn't offer his wife a new one as well. He chose to leave.

WWE even gave him several PLE matches on the way out and let him promote his book on their programming knowing he was leaving, which they didn't have to do.

WWE treated that guy way better than they had to.

He says he was lowballed. He implied they made him an offer that was lower than his old contract.

No wonder things got so awful. You've got a power couple middle management douchebags just under Vince.
 
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