International Russian invasion of Ukraine Megathread V1

[Lights Out 101]

Whatboutism is never an effective argument

 

[D3THRONED]

Whatboutism is never an effective argument

Russian trolls are very weak. Report and move on.

 

[D3THRONED]

Are you out of your fucking mind? You seriously see no difference between Assad and Ukraine?

Report and move on. Russian trolls are being trolls. Easy to see through it.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Claiming territory is old school war, not cool.

I can't defend Western actions in manyy instances but this is quantifiable different.

If China rolled tanks on Taiwan or America sought to claim more if Mexico it would receive similar condemnation.

 

[Dexter]

I mean really its very hard to know isnt it? talking up the other sides loses yes most likely, there own they could potentially play them up for sympathy or down to show strenght.

Fog of War is huge.
For example, it’s only recently 100% confirmed that Russian Airborne troops in Hostomel airport near Kiev are still holding it, and both sides are rushing to claim or reclaim the area. Like, Ukrainian side already posted at least twice that they have seized it. Nothing can be viewed for granted.

Putin knows he can get away with murder. I doubt he's intimidated by sanctions and bad press.

What “sanctions” are you talking about? If I did understand everything our friend Ol’ Joe told us yesterday, US is pretty much supporting the Russian war effort with that laughable shit. And EU’s too scary of the cold winter.

 

[Fugazy]

Trump blamed this whole situation on the “stolen election”.

It’s not 2016 anymore. You can stop believing in the “Trump is playing 4d chess” myth because the rest of the world surely has.

Another brain dead idiot joins the fray.

I don’t think or feel any of what you’re insinuating in your posting.

You’ve misinterpreted a single post in a back and forth because you literally couldn’t resist an opportunity for a partisan dunk as your shriveled brain is seeking to validate your sad existence by pissing out some endorphins in return for the likes you get once you’ve barfed out the appropriate phrases to engage the other brain dead idiots itt who can’t see beyond an opportunity for a cheap gotcha movement. Like moths to an insect light. You fucking lemming.

 

[lsa]

uhhh what about
Dmitry Utkin Who has SS bolts tattooed on him? What country does he fight for again?

Utkin on the far right..

Utkin with out a shirt on.

 

[tastaylvr]

Are you out of your fucking mind? You seriously see no difference between Assad and Ukraine?

Yes there is a big difference. Just not in the way you are thinking. Russia at least has some claim...

What the fuck does the usa have to do with syria? A country ruined by the way for no fucking reason other than american greed

 

[DariusTheGreat]

Perhaps.

Putin is going to have to decide if the world knowing of thousands of innocent casualties - Women & Children - is worth the backlash he's going to receive, now that we know that sanctions aren't doing shit.

The time for the world leaders to make Putin know the consequences for his actions is now, rather than 48 hours ago.

Putin was bombing hospitals in Syria and killing civilians for years and the world did fuck all

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Ukrainian people want NATO, well as I understand it.

Sure their wishes play second fiddle to assurances given by Western leaders decades ago?

Of course when I say Ukrainian people I mean the majority but it's far from all of them.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Putin knows he can get away with murder. I doubt he's intimidated by sanctions and bad press.

Yeah, obviously he's not intimidated by sanctions, but when the elites of the world are realizing Putin is a threat to them they're either going to either cower or make threats.

Russia has a 1st-tier military with a 3rd-world economy spread across a very large landmass. Florida has a larger economy than all of Russia and it mostly relies on exporting oil and natural gas.

Russia is VERY economically vulnerable beyond sanctions.

 

[James Bomb]

The bullshit premise of this invasion is going to result in even more support for NATO expansion and less support for Russia globally.

Putin’s actions will result in Russia being even more isolated than before.

 

[TheMaster]

This just in, the cold war is over! i know, crazy right? it ended in 1991.....so this bullshit is not needed.


And guess what, there is plenty of blame to go around. Not just nato and the US.

Putin's of obsession's with trying to be a better Stalin while also trying to grab back old soviet satellite's states isnt cool either. We dont need another thread stating how bad ass putin.

It's nothing to do with Putin being a badass he is doing what he has to in this situation.
Since the media are running their own narrative it's important that the West and Western leaders take responsibility also for their role in stirring it up.

If Russian missiles were being threatened to be placed in Canada or Cuba there would likewise be a serious crisis. In fact it has happened before when the Soviets almost gave the US a sense of what it feels like when it's the other way around.
It's the same here with Ukraine.

 

[DariusTheGreat]

you disgust me TS

Only USA and friends are allowed to attack countries and change regimes. wtf are you even thinking?

ban pls

he's not wrong, he's just pointing out Western hypocrisy. The US killed millions of Iraqis for basically no reason, the have no moral high ground to stand on so all this bullshit the US spews about Russia is basically the pot calling the kettle black

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Putin was bombing hospitals in Syria and killing civilians for years and the world did fuck all

Yeah, in Syria. Look at what its neighboring countries are.

Now look at Ukraine's neighboring countries and say what Putin's doing isn't ruffling the feathers of some very powerful people.

 

[Greyscale]

Yes there is a big difference. Just not in the way you are thinking. Russia at least has some claim...

What the fuck does the usa have to do with syria? A country ruined by the way for no fucking reason other than american greed

Some claim? Which, exactly?

Syria was ravaged by civil war in which Assad used chemical weapons against his own citizens. Crimes against humanity (which are well-documented in case of Syria) make it international business. In Ukraine's case, Russia is war criminal and aggressor at the same time. Remember Boeing MH17? Yesterday it got much, much worse.

 

[Fugazy]

Alex Jones called it.



Some will say 'A broken clock is right twice a day' and yes he's been wrong, but he's been far more accurate than what they'd like everyone to believe.

I’d like to see the rest of that pod. That’s a hell of a soundbite to be nearly 4 months ahead

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Perhaps.

Putin is going to have to decide if the world knowing of thousands of innocent casualties - Women & Children - is worth the backlash he's going to receive, now that we know that sanctions aren't doing shit.

The time for the world leaders to make Putin know the consequences for his actions is now, rather than 48 hours ago.

Honestly though I think the main threat to Putin probably is not what anyone else does, maybe the Chinese could put some leverage on him but I very much doubt they are going to, I think its much more the response at home.

For all his authoritarian and antidemocratic ways Russia isnt North Korea or even indeed China in terms of the level of control he has, he is playing a game of PR here in terms of his own population, indeed I think a decent case maybe thats even part of why he invaded in the first place as he felt he couldnt be seen to back down from the stand off with Ukraine and appear weak. Equally though I think what the Russian public will tolerate in terms of death and destruction is questionable, especially as this is a neighboring developed country with a lot of links to Russia not somewhere like Afghanistan ot Iraq were there is much more distance both physically and socially. In those cases really only US miltary deaths really mattered to the domestic audience but here I suspect both sides losses do.

 

[Greyscale]

he's not wrong, he's just pointing out Western hypocrisy. The US killed millions of Iraqis for basically no reason, the have no moral high ground to stand on so all this bullshit the US spews about Russia is basically the pot calling the kettle black

Western hypocrisy should be exposed by pointing out that Western leaders tried to court and appease a fucked up war criminal and terrorist for at least 14 years instead of stopping him. Much like they did with his predecessor of 1933-1945

 

[Royce's Gi]

damn boi how far down is putins cock in your throat?

Not as far as Rachel Levines cock is down yours.