International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V9

[Yehudim]

I really don't understand what leg the USA has to stand on regarding Iran sending drones. You guys are sending fuck tons of stuff to Ukraine to helpa non allie, but Russia's allies can't help them? Do Americans not see the double standard here? It's laughable to even bring up

Im not defending russia but the hypocrisy of the US never ceases to amaze me, such a tone deaf country

Send weapons to country defending itself

Send weapons to country invading

These are the same according to JoeyJoeJoeJr

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Send weapons to country defending itself

Send weapons to country invading

These are the same according to JoeyJoeJoeJr

It's not the same, but its war, you can't expect allies not help allies. Why is the US even there? They have absolutely no business being involved at all. You guys just love meddling in foreign affairs, and one day its going to cause you serious problems.

 

[PEB]

I really don't understand what leg the USA has to stand on regarding Iran sending drones. You guys are sending fuck tons of stuff to Ukraine to helpa non allie, but Russia's allies can't help them? Do Americans not see the double standard here? It's laughable to even bring up

Im not defending russia but the hypocrisy of the US never ceases to amaze me, such a tone deaf country

It makes more sense if you understand the contents of what is happening. Russia decided to invade an elected democracy that is fighting for its independence. It's at the very core of US values and Russia decided to invade this country. It's in US and NATO interest given it's the second largest in Europe and has an elected government whatever your believes are this is what US believes in.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

It's not the same, but its war, you can't expect allies not help allies. Why is the US even there? They have absolutely no business being involved at all. You guys just love meddling in foreign affairs, and one day its going to cause you serious problems.

I would say letting Russia take over and destroy a country is the less of the 2 evils, and should putin have conquered ukraine do you really think he would have stopped there?

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

It makes more sense if you understand the contents of what is happening. Russia decided to invade an elected democracy that is fighting for its independence. It's at the very core of US values and Russia decided to invade this country. It's in US and NATO interest given it's the second largest in Europe and has an elected government whatever your believes are this is what US believes in.

There are unjust wars all over the world that the US never gets involved in. You guys can make whatever excuses you want to try and justify being there, but the rest of the world can see right through it. You're only there to try and initiate a second charlie wilsons war, and cost Russia a lot of weapons and headache. I dont think the US actually gives two shits about Ukraine. This is about giving out big military contracts to line the pockets of politicans who help pass them. the us is corrupt.

 

[ImCertainOfCirkunov]

How is Zelenskyy a Western puppet?

He was elected with 71% of popular vote and has 90+% approval rate.

It is quite logical to be anti-Russian after everything Russia has done over the years. To any logical person ties to EU are far more preferable to those of Russia. Do you think it's an accident vast majority of Russia is a 3rd world s-hole? Do you think Russian soldiers looting washing machines was a sign of great economic times and development?

I am still waiting for a source you trust. I am anticipating a YouTube link to some American colonel who spouts Russian talking points while interviewed on RT. I am hoping I am wrong and you only post some far right Aussie source.

I'll go out on a limb here and guess that you'll continue to wait.

One thing I've noticed about those who whine and moan about "MSM"....they never, ever share where they get their news from. I wonder why that is...?

 

[SandisLL]

Not sure I agree with much about this post...you really think The Donald will kiss Russia Ass? I dont see the Donald doing much ass kissing especially if he doesnt need to.

Donald is an oligarch and pro Kremlin oriented senile rich cocky wreck.
Exactly Donald had fucked up relationships with Turkey and Saudis cos he personally excluded Saudis and Turkey from F-35 buyers waiting list.
Americans now are paying cos this...from their pockets for fuel...

While Donald, despite being old and rich oligarch does knows how to talk with electorate ( plebs ) : ppl born and living in short term thinking and short term planning consumers society........

Donald isn't Reagan.
Vote for your Donald. U.S will be maybe 4 th country by importance in world....

Donald does knows that average voter is short term thinking dreamer and loves populists.

Your country with Donald will be in corner and It will happen.
+ plebs dreams will not be truth.
Life will be even more expensive.
China will be hegemony No1.

No2 will be some conglomerate of countries.
" self sufficient " dreamers might appear below Eurasian empire and China.

Why not. U.S is so self sufficient that even if they will not have ability to impact financial system in world and everyone else will tell IMF and WB to piss off , then....

Will sit in hole like Russia now is....

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

I would say letting Russia take over and destroy a country is the less of the 2 evils, and should putin have conquered ukraine do you really think he would have stopped there?

i never bought that putin was looking to take over europe, that reeks of US propaganda to me. by the way who has invaded more countries than the US? do you guys not remember invading Iraq only 20 years ago by telling a bunch of lies? nobody belives anything the US says, you have zero credibility

 

[SandisLL]

It makes more sense if you understand the contents of what is happening. Russia decided to invade an elected democracy that is fighting for its independence. It's at the very core of US values and Russia decided to invade this country. It's in US and NATO interest given it's the second largest in Europe and has an elected government whatever your believes are this is what US believes in.

U.S then should be just pupp in corner....
Nothing more.
China.
Eurasian Empire.
Then most likely Empire will get treaty with North Korea and Iran and then....
will attempt to get India on their side.
Then other countries too.

Beautiful stuff. Kremlin already doesn't deny that they want to change world forever.
Ofc for info for west they have one tale, for eurasia next and for russians next....

Empire is in birth process.

 

[SandisLL]

i never bought that putin was looking to take over europe, that reeks of US propaganda to me. by the way who has invaded more countries than the US? do you guys not remember invading Iran only 20 years ago by telling a bunch of lies? nobody belives anything the US says, you have zero credibility

What Iran?
And sorry, you might claim stuff about U.S propaganda for 2 reasons: 1. You can't read russian and never bothered to translate their propaganda stuff for russians in russia. Cos westerners usually are very lazy ppl.
2. You had been brainwashed by Kremlin's propaganda ...
3. Maybe you just are earning money for posts.

If normal ppl had to read stuff in russian for russians posted for them....
Damn.

You, westerners, are just pussy idiots and parasites etc etc.


How cool propaganda was during last 14 years. Boring idiotism.

Now best example is San Marino.

America will run out of diesel fuel in 1 month.
We in april had to read about prediction : Finland this month will have blackout and in winter freeze till death without Mother Russia....

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

What Iran?
And sorry, you might claim stuff about U.S propaganda for 2 reasons: 1. You can't read russian and never bothered to translate their propaganda stuff for russians in russia. Cos westerners usually are very lazy ppl.
2. You had been brainwashed by Kremlin's propaganda ...
3. Maybe you just are earning money for posts.

If normal ppl had to read stuff in russian for russians posted for them....
Damn.

You, westerners, are just pussy idiots and parasites etc etc.


How cool propaganda was during last 14 years. Boring idiotism.

Now best example is San Marino.

America will run out of diesel fuel in 1 month.
We in april had to read about prediction : Finland this month will have blackout and in winter freeze till death without Mother Russia....

i meant iraq but bro you literally spew this nonsense every time i show up here. you think im a paid poster from russia, you said similar things to me in the past. you need to get some sleep my friend.

the us russian propaganda has been strong for decades. I remember researching the uk poisoning and the alleged chemical attack in syria, there was no evidence that the russians did either of those things, not a single piece of evidence that would prove anything. it was all propaganda from the US.

 

[Rholk]

I really don't understand what leg the USA has to stand on regarding Iran sending drones. You guys are sending fuck tons of stuff to Ukraine to helpa non allie, but Russia's allies can't help them? Do Americans not see the double standard here? It's laughable to even bring up

Im not defending russia but the hypocrisy of the US never ceases to amaze me, such a tone deaf country

Yeah it's not like Russia has been bitching about the west supplying Ukraine or anything.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

i never bought that putin was looking to take over europe, that reeks of US propaganda to me. by the way who has invaded more countries than the US? do you guys not remember invading Iraq only 20 years ago by telling a bunch of lies? nobody belives anything the US says, you have zero credibility

1) I am not American and 2) never suggested he would try to take Europe but he started with one of the biggest former USSR countries and would have a hard time believing he would stop there. He's already trying to mettle with Maldova and hasnt even got Ukraine and likely never will.

 

[AWilder]

I don't.

If it had been a military coup or something that similarly involved a limited number of people, I would consider the possibility on the merits... but when the fuck has any of the intelligence services of the NATO countries demonstrated any ability to engineer mass popular demonstrations or uprisings?

They sure as help gave their full support and recognition once it got going, but there's no way in hell they created it out of whole cloth.

What's funny is how bad the CIA track record is for regime change.

 

[crystallake]

i never bought that putin was looking to take over europe, that reeks of US propaganda to me. by the way who has invaded more countries than the US? do you guys not remember invading Iraq only 20 years ago by telling a bunch of lies? nobody belives anything the US says, you have zero credibility

Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine?

"NATO provocation"

 

[AWilder]

i never bought that putin was looking to take over europe, that reeks of US propaganda to me. by the way who has invaded more countries than the US? do you guys not remember invading Iraq only 20 years ago by telling a bunch of lies? nobody belives anything the US says, you have zero credibility

Vladivostok to Lisbon is straight out of the Kremlin comrade.

 

[Denter]

Not sure I agree with much about this post...you really think The Donald will kiss Russia Ass? I dont see the Donald doing much ass kissing especially if he doesnt need to.

Yeah agreed, it was a bipartisan thing. Obama was uncomfortable sending weapons; instead he did training. Trump started sending weapons. Biden started sending better weapons.

 

[Yehudim]

It's not the same, but its war, you can't expect allies not help allies. Why is the US even there? They have absolutely no business being involved at all. You guys just love meddling in foreign affairs, and one day its going to cause you serious problems.

You really can’t pull the meddling in foreign affairs card when the other party is Russia.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

"NATO provocation"

I thought it was denazification?, didn't one of the Ukrainian generals have a ring on that under certain lighting actually look like a swastika? that should be all the reason one would need to invade the country.