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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V9

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Andy Capp said:
Never mind the spelling. You're calling me a retard when you didn't even know how the word was pronounced, obviously. It's trough, like cough or slough, not troth, as in both, or even like cloth or sloth.

So where do you draw the line? Poorly translated text, illiterate prose, what? I think you should shorten your username to just CRUD.

Do you think it's gainful to go through life appeasing bullies? No, judging by your posting you're in sympathy because you want people to back down to you when you spew your filthy aggression on them.
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Retard alert. Paragraphs about a single word spelt wrong.
Kid, there is a substantial difference between a single word being spelt wrong, and attempting to talk in another language using Google translate.

Plus if you want to pick at stupid shit, let's go into your wording. "you're calling me a retard when you didn't know how the word was pronounced". You're using present and past tense in the same sentence bellend.
Also, we aren't talking pronunciation. We're talking spelling.

Retard.
 
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CyberRubberDuck said:
Got a source to back that up?
No? Didn't think so.
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/09/30/fictitious-annexation-follows-voting-gunpoint

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63072113

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...russias-referendums-ukraine-vucic-2022-09-28/

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The last one for those terrified of MSM.
 
Siver! said:
You asked if I had a source, I provided 5.

Your turn.

A source please that the referendums were not a sham.
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The burden of proof is on you. You don't get to make a claim and then ask me to find a source that refutes it.
When I asked for a source, I meant one that backs up your claims, not just repeat them.
 
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Siver! said:
Attacks on MSM are yawntastic when there is never a credible alternative source proposed.

Most people in this thread are getting their news/information from social media channels, both pro-Ukraine and pro-Russia, and plenty of official intelligence from a variety of countries, not just Western countries. The dreaded 'MSM' get hold of the same stuff, and writes about it.

If they were constantly making shit up, we would know.

But actually the 'MSM' have covered the war pretty fairly.

Again, though, rather than just being scared of the 'MSM' boogeyman, what's this super reliable alternative source of information that's even more verifiable than actual footage from the front line and national intelligence services?

For the record, the current situation with intelligence services publicly broadcasting information is unusual during wartime. The aim appears to have been to counteract disinformation AHEAD OF TIME.
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Yeah, most of the time when a mainstream source is reporting basically conjecture or anecdote you can tell by the ".... according to X" or "Y says." Although sometimes they'll simply take things in that direction then drop hints in that contradict the whole message. I can dig up some examples if you want.
 
Denter said:
Yeah, most of the time when a mainstream source is reporting basically conjecture or anecdote you can tell by the ".... according to X" or "Y says." Although sometimes they'll simply take things in that direction then drop hints in that contradict the whole message. I can dig up some examples if you want.
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No, it's fine, I understand the point.

Good, reliable journalism still takes place in the MSM sphere, though, and to be instantly dismissed by internet trolls is ridiculous.

I'm sure you'll agree with that, just as much as I'll agree that some MSM is trash, and should be avoided at all costs.
 
Siver! said:
Genuine question: do you know what a source is?
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Well according to you, its anyone making a claim of certain things. With no need to back them up.
Your sources are not credible. So they're totally useless. If that's the best evidence you've got, then you're a joke.

I say the Russian invasion was a battle for hearts and minds. And the vote was legitimate because the people there hated the years of Ukrainian oppression and corruption. So when Russia turned up, they rejoiced.
That place was a shit hole pile of rubble well before Russia went to war.
 
Siver! said:
No, it's fine, I understand the point.

Good, reliable journalism still takes place in the MSM sphere, though, and to be instantly dismissed by internet trolls is ridiculous.

I'm sure you'll agree with that, just as much as I'll agree that some MSM is trash, and should be avoided at all costs.
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You got any examples of recent genuine investigative journalism?
 
CyberRubberDuck said:
Well according to you, its anyone making a claim of certain things. With no need to back them up.
Your sources are not credible. So they're totally useless. If that's the best evidence you've got, then you're a joke.

I say the Russian invasion was a battle for hearts and minds. And the vote was legitimate because the people there hated the years of Ukrainian oppression and corruption. So when Russia turned up, they rejoiced.
That place was a shit hole pile of rubble well before Russia went to war.
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A true believer
 
CyberRubberDuck said:
Retard alert. Paragraphs about a single word spelt wrong.
Kid, there is a substantial difference between a single word being spelt wrong, and attempting to talk in another language using Google translate.

Plus if you want to pick at stupid shit, let's go into your wording. "you're calling me a retard when you didn't know how the word was pronounced". You're using present and past tense in the same sentence bellend.
Also, we aren't talking pronunciation. We're talking spelling.

Retard.
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CyberRubberDuck said:
Well according to you, its anyone making a claim of certain things. With no need to back them up.
Your sources are not credible. So they're totally useless. If that's the best evidence you've got, then you're a joke.

I say the Russian invasion was a battle for hearts and minds. And the vote was legitimate because the people there hated the years of Ukrainian oppression and corruption. So when Russia turned up, they rejoiced.
That place was a shit hole pile of rubble well before Russia went to war.
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So literally any source, be it MSM, BBC, military intelligence, or real time social media is 'totally useless'?

You know when you're asking for a source, you're asking where the information came from?

Your ability to debate seems to revolve around ignoring everything, refusing to read anything, and insulting people.
 
Siver! said:
So literally any source, be it MSM, BBC, military intelligence, or real time social media is 'totally useless'?

You know when you're asking for a source, you're asking where the information came from?

Your ability to debate seems to revolve around ignoring everything, refusing to read anything, and insulting people.
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Yes, and yours are not reliable. That's why I asked.
 
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