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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

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Guess they came second place in that exchange. Aim twice, fire once...

The effects of the weapons used in this conflict are horrifying. Not only is a multi-tonne vehicle basically disintegrated with one hit, just look at the piece of debris that shoots so high into the air it lands on the roof of the nearby building almost ten seconds later. And it wasn't a light piece either- it looks like it caves the roof in.
 
Guess they came second place in that exchange. Aim twice, fire once...

The effects of the weapons used in this conflict are horrifying. Not only is a multi-tonne vehicle basically disintegrated with one hit, just look at the piece of debris that shoots so high into the air it lands on the roof of the nearby building almost ten seconds later. And it wasn't a light piece either- it looks like it caves the roof in.

99% of the explosion is ammunition stored inside the turret exploding.
 
Guess they came second place in that exchange. Aim twice, fire once...

The effects of the weapons used in this conflict are horrifying. Not only is a multi-tonne vehicle basically disintegrated with one hit, just look at the piece of debris that shoots so high into the air it lands on the roof of the nearby building almost ten seconds later. And it wasn't a light piece either- it looks like it caves the roof in.

Word online seems to be its commander of the tank since hes standing on top with hatch open
 
Word online seems to be its commander of the tank since hes standing on top with hatch open

Could be. I'm not a tank-destruction expert.
Doesn't really look like a human body to me, but it would explain why it flew so high. Less density in a homo sapiens than in armor plating.
 
"Western military prowess is at full show here" is pretty accurate, and it supports my point.
Swarm tactics, using the local infantry as suicide runners with minimal-to-no artillery support, charging against a similar number of enemies and, supported by concentrated artillery barrages and air support is a fuck-witted strategy that show absolutely no regard for the lives of the men doing the fighting - it worked in the Middle East, but against a mobile army with the focus that Russia places on artillery, it's done nothing but bleed Ukraine of people. The only other tactic employed by the West appears to be to insist that every inch of terrain is held onto, no matter the cost in Ukrainian lives. Whereas, being far more mobile, connected, and professional, the Russians are able to make considered strategic decisions, occasionally sacrifice tactical wins for the sake of operational success, and to do things like withdraw from areas, either because they're not that strategically significant or because they're luring the Ukrainians into a firetrap - as they appear to have done to the bridgehead Ukraine managed to achieve in their disastrous Kherson counteroffensive.



The only genuine success we've seen from Ukraine recently, was their offensive into Izium in Kharkiv region, which masterfully took the Russians by surprise and has the potential to genuinely screw with their supply lines.
But:
A) This was against the advice of Western military planners (so, there's your Western military prowess on full display); and,
B) It's a bit early yet to determine if Ukraine made gains the Russians won't reverse when they decide to - which has largely been the theme of this conflict. Chances are, Ukraine, as has become the norm, is sacrificing tomorrow's military capabilities for the sake of today's PR war.

You guys reveal your strategic/tactical ignorance by continuing to say things like "that is enough to stop Russia in its tracks". Russia has little need to rush anything, since they have a tremendous advantage in equipment, having annihilated much of Ukraine's material in the early stages of the conflict and with the West unable to replace what Ukraine's already lost. Since Russia's only real shortage is in terms of manpower, it behooves the Russians to move slowly, hammering Ukrainian positions with artillery until they're softened up enough to risk lives re-taking. The West, on the other hand, is treating the lives of soldiers as though they think they're playing an RTS.
It's also revealing that you think Western tanks will be the game-changer, when Western artillery (in a largely artillery war) wasn't. Western tanks (specifically, German-made Leopard 2s; amongst the best tanks the West has) got stomped in Syria. Why do you think they'll win the far more difficult fight in Ukraine?

To quote a Ukrainian soldier, as quoted by a pro-Western outlet prior to the doomed Kherson 'counteroffensive':

“There is no counteroffensive and there won’t be. There might be an imitation of one but there won’t be a real one. We absolutely do not have the weaponry for one. The Russians feel completely comfortable in their positions … they are not scared of us; there’s no reason to be scared of us. For each missile that we launch, they launch 50, 40, 30. Of course, the proportions can change depending on the situation. We don’t have offensive equipment. You can’t launch an offensive with Himars.”
Wellness check
 
Wellness check

Oh my, I clicked one of the links by accident.

PANAGYURISHTE ($1=1.95 Bulgarian Levs) — The pro-Ukrainian Telegram channel Legitimney [Legitimate in English – ed.] claims that according to their sources, more than 60% of the HIMARS delivered to Ukraine have been destroyed. “We were the first to provide inside information on the tactics of using the armed forces of HIMARS and also described how the Russian Federation could close this case. Our source reported that more than 60% of the HIMARS were destroyed,” the channel wrote Legitimney.

BulgarianMilitary.com cannot confirm the truth of the statements and information published in the analysis of this Telegram channel Legitimney. BulgarianMilitary.com was unable to find out who administers the Legitimney channel, too. Despite Legitimney’s claims, no sources, footage, or satellite images were attached to the analysis to proof its claims.

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The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, promised that the cities in the Kharkov region left by the Russian army would be returned to the control of the Russian army.

“I, Ramzan Kadyrov, officially declare to you that all these cities will be returned back. Our people are already there. The guys are specially trained for this work. Ready to leave for another 10 thousand fighters. And we will reach Odessa in the near future. You will see concrete results,” Kadyrov promised.

At the same time, he admitted that "mistakes were made by the Ministry of Defense, I think that they will draw conclusions."

“If today or tomorrow there are no changes in the strategy for conducting the SMO, I will have to contact the leadership of the Defense Ministry and the leadership of the country in order to explain to them the situation that is happening “on the ground.” The situation is very interesting, even I said bluntly - awesome. The fact that they left there, gave away several cities, villages - this also has its plus. We, as in Syria, brought in our own people, namely special forces. They are in place, they have stepped in. And they have already begun their work,” Kadyrov assured.
 
Yeah, Svyatohirsk and soon Lyman.

They are also progressing toward Velykyi Burluk to the North and making advances in Kherson front.

Russia is losing a conventional war with Ukraine.

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its fucking sad, but it shows how bad the russians command and corruption has really screwed the RUF forces.
 
Most conservatives I've talked to are pretty strongly pro Ukraine, with the rest (a minority) not wanting to get involved in any foreign wars. The Russophilia is an internet thing, and I wouldn't describe internet Russophiles really as conservatives. There is a strong element of third world ism and anti finance capitalism floating around those people as well.
Yeah but it makes for better strawmen and post to Like ratio to pretend that the average conservative or even Trump supporter holds the views of some mentally ill internet addicts that post pro-Russia propaganda.

Hey, look at this picture of a couple of boomers wearing a “I’d rather be Russian than a Democrat” shirt!
 


Now the hard right are saying that Putin will step down and be replaced with an extremist who will be impossible to deal with and will plow more into the war. Anything to disable the success that Ukraine is having and to scare Western nations support.
 
Word online seems to be its commander of the tank since hes standing on top with hatch open

Why in the WORLD would you do that when your tank is firing on an enemy position? Either way, he was a goner once that tank got hit.
 
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