International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

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Old video but so true about what a piece of crap Putin has been for sure.
Putin: NATO should be renamed "The Council of the Soviet's" back when he was pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.
Then


And now how things have changed.

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SandisLL said:
EU yesterday evening agreed to fund next assistance pack. 500 000 000.
From this 490 000 000 will be for weapons and ammo.
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Good to hear seeing if the US support goes south after the elections EU stepping up for now. Because Kevin McCarthy "doing Putin bidding" says that future Ukraine war funding is in danger of being stopped.
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KIEV, Ukraine — A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...5f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

Got to give it Rep Paul Ryan he saw the Trump Russian sh$t show coming to the Republican party and he had no power to stop it and got out.
 
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PEB said:
Old video but so true about what a piece of crap Putin has been for sure.
Putin: NATO should be renamed "The Council of the Soviet's" back when he was pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.
Then


And now how things have changed.

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The same mistakes are being committed in countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc.

The West doesn't really seem to have a gameplan for dealing with vicious tyrants. We try to appease them until they go totally bonkers, and then there's only one option left, really.
 
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TheGreatA said:
The same mistakes are being committed in countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc.

The West doesn't really seem to have a game plan for dealing with vicious tyrants. We try to appease them until they go totally bonkers, and then there's only one option left, really.
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I think before Xi China was developing a western style economic system Xi been pulled towards Putin over energy concerns and trying to look more communist. He at first much like Putin tried to look like he was willing to work with the West only to benefit his ambitions but I still believe he is less Putin and more Western but MBS is a piece of garbage and possibly the 2nd most dangerous man in the room and explains his interest in hanging out with A-Hole Putin.
 
PEB said:
I think before Xi China was developing a western style economic system Xi been pulled towards Putin over energy concerns and trying to look more communist. He at first much like Putin tried to look like he was willing to work with the West only to benefit his ambitions but I still believe he is less Putin and more Western but MBS is a piece of garbage and possibly the 2nd most dangerous man in the room and explains his interest in hanging out with A-Hole Putin.
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Putin was a lot more Western-minded than Xi was, prior to the 2010s.

The thing that makes me worry less about Xi going nuts, is that he seems to be more competent and possibly less corrupt. If Putin had been doing a good job in Russia, he would have had less of a reason to lash out at the West/Ukraine. But he has been a fuck-up since the early 2010s. The system is collapsing under the weight of the massive amount of corruption that he has allowed to spread.

Atleast, I would've figured, that the Russian military may have been safe from his corrupting influence, considering he needed them to achieve his goals, but it appears that he has turned the military into a joke also. They made all these boasts about their top-tier equipment, and now it seems that they can't even arm their soldiers properly.
 
TheGreatA said:
Putin was a lot more Western-minded than Xi was, prior to the 2010s.

The thing that makes me worry less about Xi going nuts, is that he seems to be more competent and possibly less corrupt. If Putin had been doing a good job in Russia, he would have had less of a reason to lash out at the West/Ukraine. But he has been a fuck-up since the early 2010s. The system is collapsing under the weight of the massive amount of corruption that he has allowed to spread.

Atleast, I would've figured, that the Russian military may have been safe from his corrupting influence, considering he needed them to achieve his goals, but it appears that he has turned the military into a joke also. They made all these boasts about their top-tier equipment, and now it seems that they can't even arm their soldiers properly.
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Well there was some signs
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...12MILLION-polite-palace-outskirts-Moscow.html
 
On a side note about Russian powerful military weapons some of it was designed in Ukraine rockets and ammo was developed in Ukraine and Russia would go to them for manufacturing so keeping Ukraine out of Russian hands is kinda a big deal.

 
Interesting an unique video of the HIMARS



I believe a lot of HIMARS development is in the state of Washington near the Canadian boarder. But building them is in Texas not far from where the Javelin is built.
 
UN: "Pattern of rapes" on the Russian side - four-year-old forced to have oral sex

Russian soldiers were responsible for "the overwhelming majority" of human rights violations in the first weeks of the invasion of Ukraine, according to a new UN report according to Al Jazeera.

The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine is behind the report. They testify to a "pattern of rape" within the Russian army - among other things, a four-year-old was forced to perform oral sex on a Russian soldier in Kyiv in March.

"The perpetrators raped women and girls in their homes or in abandoned homes. In most cases, they were also guilty of torture or inhumane treatment of the victims and their relatives who were forced to watch,” the report states.

https://omni.se/fn-monster-av-valdtakter-pa-ryska-sidan-fyraaring-tvingades-till-oralsex/a/vee8pj
 
Siver! said:
Yeah.

But somehow the lack of trade and the economic uncertainty ONLY affects everyone else?

You're really that naive, that somehow Russia loses massive parts of it's international market, but the Ruble does BETTER (not the same price as before at all, BETTER), and there's no sense questioning that?

Obviously the restrictions Russia are placing on their own trade and economy are GOOD things :rolleyes:
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lol even if you ignore the massive impact of sanctions, when foreign companies pulled out en masse from Russia, they took 40% of Russia's GDP with it, but 'No, Ruble is just as strong!'. It doesn't take an economics degree to see through the Kremlin BS.
 
lsa said:
UN: "Pattern of rapes" on the Russian side - four-year-old forced to have oral sex

Russian soldiers were responsible for "the overwhelming majority" of human rights violations in the first weeks of the invasion of Ukraine, according to a new UN report according to Al Jazeera.

The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine is behind the report. They testify to a "pattern of rape" within the Russian army - among other things, a four-year-old was forced to perform oral sex on a Russian soldier in Kyiv in March.

"The perpetrators raped women and girls in their homes or in abandoned homes. In most cases, they were also guilty of torture or inhumane treatment of the victims and their relatives who were forced to watch,” the report states.

https://omni.se/fn-monster-av-valdtakter-pa-ryska-sidan-fyraaring-tvingades-till-oralsex/a/vee8pj
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Quality people those Putin soldiers.
 
PEB said:
Good to hear seeing if the US support goes south after the elections EU stepping up for now.
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There also is support from countries individually.
This is addition...

While IMHO talking like Ukr had did in some cases didn't had helped .....for Ukr.
Baltic countries ( not important mices ) in march agreed and provided 536 000 000 worth military asistance in weapons and Poland agreed to provide 1 700 000 000 worth military supplies...
and quickly started to supply ukr. ( march ).
Arestovich and Co nicely talked about things " thank you but we are fighting for you, you will be next "....

Outcome?
Lesser supplies and they are accumulating weapons....
And placing ammo etc orders ....

Poland isn't statisfied with U.S " friends " at all, they does know why. With Germans too...

Therefore while nice friendly talks about Abrams continues and large orders for HIMARS are placed in long row...

Poland already recieved some batch with tanks from South Korea...
And ofc will get next batches.
The same will be with MRLS launchers....

Main importer of South Korean weapons in europe is Poland.
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Soon maybe India will sell something and why not...

Also even small countries aren't enough dumb.
The same U.K stuff with troops reduction in Estonia literally ended any U.K " friends " ability to sell them weapons for good price.
They also does have good memory and aren't stupid.
U.K already once had sold them to Stalin.
Will repeat btw....0 doubts...
Just are waiting.... as usually....
Yalta. Crimea. " friends "....
 
lsa said:
Also Finland is building that wall.
They are planing to start building a wall on the Russian border.

All ready for Finnish fencing on the border with Russia
All parties in Finland's Riksdag are behind the plans to build a fence along the border with Russia, writes TT. Even the responsible authority, Gränsbevakningsväsendet, has now declared itself positive, which means that everything points to the construction going ahead even if the formal decision has not been made.

Yle reports that money has been set aside and Hufvudstadsbladet writes that test construction of a few kilometers is underway.

The plan is for the fence to be ready in four years. However, it should not run along the entire border, but only in the places where it is easiest to cross.
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Hmm novel concept.
 
TheGreatA said:
Putin was a lot more Western-minded than Xi was, prior to the 2010s.

The thing that makes me worry less about Xi going nuts, is that he seems to be more competent and possibly less corrupt. If Putin had been doing a good job in Russia, he would have had less of a reason to lash out at the West/Ukraine. But he has been a fuck-up since the early 2010s. The system is collapsing under the weight of the massive amount of corruption that he has allowed to spread.

Atleast, I would've figured, that the Russian military may have been safe from his corrupting influence, considering he needed them to achieve his goals, but it appears that he has turned the military into a joke also. They made all these boasts about their top-tier equipment, and now it seems that they can't even arm their soldiers properly.
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Naw, pretty opposite.
Xi in 2007-2013 was more western minded than Putin.

While Putin by himself maybe even was...he does needs rusaian imperialists, brainwashed nationalists and " Russian world " fans support...
This means he can't deny superlarge size superempire dream....in territorial sense....
And ofc in other aspects too.

While for China then it was $ and $ and $....
And all this expanding China is doing financially and with soft power outside of China.

While Russia is doing the same + also physical expansion and even is Iran's and North Korea's friend...


There is big difference between China and Russia.

Chinsse most likely willingly had bought stocks in Donbas mines... antracite, hard coal etc...
Russia?
If mines aren't controlled by proper oligarch anymore then...deNazification...
 
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