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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

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More footage from Crimea, very much looks like that both munitions bunkers went poof





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Did Ukraine get the longer range missiles for HIMARS yet?
Can't see them hitting Russia this far back with anything else atm

No. I'd bet on a modified drone as used against that refinery in Rostov few months back. A mission made much easier by using HARMs.

HARM missiles are being provided to Ukraine to take out Russian radar locations or force them to continue moving Russian radar systems

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d0Sxn-vfivQ

Still left wondering how exactly are they launching those.
 
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I think the only number Russia officially gave was in March and it was below 1500 as I recall it.
They have not given any numbers since.
Yeah.
+ they then listed only rus act military { Wagner and LDPR & DPR guys weren't counted in this list }.

Now they had banned to disclose numbers...
AFAIK officially had banned 2 months ago while de facto didn't had given any new numbers since april...
 
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I'd bet on a modified drone as used against that refinery in Rostov few months back.

My first thought was sabotage - presumably the munitions are stored underground or in bomb proof shelters?!
 
Oil refineries basically are large and complex chemistry factories....
With stuff like vessels under high pressure and temperature, chemical reagents and ....damn a lot of flammable stuff, including under very high pressure....

Basic in short: if shit will happen ....it might be quickly turn into giant size crematorium and easily....

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Some % of soviet oil refineries had bomb shelters designed mainly....to gave some % of ppl some chance to survive in crematorium...

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In modern era due to equipment cost and value....
Yeah...this is more valued by investors than people...! What a surprise....
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CCTV systems and different restrictions and prohibitions are introduced...
Secuirty guards...
Recording...
Etc.

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To use oil refinery to station inside large number of troops or store valuable large ammounts of ammo...is crazy idea...
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Oil refineries are highly prone to internal even passive or semi active sabotage...

Not alone active sabotage...
Or " internal enemies "...
 
Now I will post about different kinds of sabotage.....
For example used against Hitler in controlled by Hitler's forces areas...
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Passive sabotage.
1. Difficult to spot because 0 special tools etc are used...
Basic in short: when doing repairs and maintenance or production...
Flowchart and order as requested is fulltfilled...

While with intent to gave low quality work result!
For example equipment supposed to work 1000 hours after repair ...might work just 100 or just 200 hours till next repair...
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To fight with passive sabotage always was only one tool, nothing else.
Excellent QA done with vigor and real diligence....
Nothing else....

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Semi acticve sabotage might be by using spare parts etc not quite suitable....or alloys etc...or tech process broken in some phase with intent....
Or usage not proper lubricants, reagents etc etc etc....

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All this is difficult to spot and if supplies aren't 100% according to plan....it might happen even without intent...

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After this is next level: more open active sabotage...
 
Oil refineries basically are large and complex chemistry factories....
With stuff like vessels under high pressure and temperature, chemical reagents and ....damn a lot of flammable stuff, including under very high pressure....

Basic in short: if shit will happen ....it might be quickly turn into giant size crematorium and easily....

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Some % of soviet oil refineries had bomb shelters designed mainly....to gave some % of ppl some chance to survive in crematorium...

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In modern era due to equipment cost and value....
Yeah...this is more valued by investors than people...! What a surprise....
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CCTV systems and different restrictions and prohibitions are introduced...
Secuirty guards...
Recording...
Etc.

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To use oil refinery to station inside large number of troops or store valuable large ammounts of ammo...is crazy idea...
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Oil refineries are highly prone to internal even passive or semi active sabotage...

Not alone active sabotage...
Or " internal enemies "...

But this is an air base, not an oil refinery?
 
Next level are diversants...
They might be sent in country eaelier or be locals or dropped in short before action.
Their task is to damage important stuff used for normal functioning...
In modern days there might be added intrenet cables ...mobile networks etc...etc...

In WW2 it was...electricity supplies and phone, telegraph lines, transformators, railroad infrastructure and bridges, important manufacturing etc equipment and so on....

There yeah...
Weapons are used...

While diversants usually doesn't care about human casualities....0 or 100 doesn't matter for them...

Unlike with terrorists becuase induce FEAR is main target for terrorists...like to kill 100 causals in city for them will be better than 1…..
 
But this is an air base, not an oil refinery?
Someone earlier had mentioned oil refinery...

Ofc air base is more suitable for military and less prone to be turned into giant crematorium...
 
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https://www.raamoprusland.nl/dossiers/defensie/2175-russia-s-military-grows-afraid-of-the-long-war
Russia's military grows afraid of the long war
08 augustus 2022
Voices within the Russian military community are beginning to express anxiety about the future course of the war against Ukraine. Military losses are staggering, the Ukrainians are a serious adversary and the population wants an end to the 'special military operation'. Russian military experts fear a backlash in Russia, writes Kseniya Kirillova for thinktank CEPA.

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Russian troops in Ukraine

by Kseniya Kirillova

Russia’s military experts, even those wholly loyal to the Kremlin, are getting tetchy and are increasingly sounding the alarm that the prolongation of hostilities will rebound against Russia.

Those doubts about the course of events are increasingly shared by the public. In mid-July, independent sociologists from the Chronicles research project noted that during a period of about six weeks, the number of Russians declaring support for the so-called special military operation decreased by 9%, from 64% to 55%. This is the lowest level since the beginning of the war and, according to the researchers, this decline is expected to continue.

Interestingly, about a month ago pro-Kremlin Telegram channels also recognized that even with the high level of patriotic sentiment and a popular readiness 'to confront the entire West', Russian society is expressing a clear desire to end the special operation as soon as possible.

The doubts of Russian military experts are new, specifically their calls for an early end to the active phase of the war. Their arguments are clothed in acceptable regime propaganda (that a protracted war is beneficial to the West and 'Kyiv nationalists') but the key message is that Russia must not allow this to happen.

Russian society is expressing a clear desire to end the special operation as soon as possible
The head of the Center for the Study of Public Applied Problems of National Security, former GRU Colonel Alexander Zhilin, a hardliner and regular performer on state propaganda channels, recently argued in faintly apocalyptic terms that a protracted war would lead to 'the destruction of economies, the bleeding of armies, the inflicting of large losses on the potential of two warring countries', and that it risked Russia’s relegation 'to the sidelines' of world politics. He compared calls to increase the intensity of hostilities with US actions in Vietnam, acknowledged the fact that innocent unarmed people have died, and called for a non-military solution so that Russia can live next to Ukraine 'and have any prospects of normalizing relations'.

Warnings from military
At the end of July, several articles with a similar theme appeared on the Military Review website, which is close to the Russian Ministry of Defense. In one of them, author Alexander Odintsov pointed out that the Russian 'strategy of limited and remote strikes against the Ukrainian Armed Forces' has reached its limit, while the Ukrainian army has displayed unexpected resilience and is ready to die for its ideas.

Accordingly, if the Russian army plans to cut off Ukrainian formations from the rear in order to completely deprive them of supplies, it needs to at least double its forces. If the Kremlin is planning an even broader attack in the direction of Nikolaev and Odesa 'with the aim of completely encircling them and opening the road to Transnistria', its forces will have to be at least tripled.

Military expert's worries

The website Wartranslated, that translates relevant texts about the war into English, published a thorough interview with Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Russian Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, founded in 1997. Pukhov is quite closely affiliated with the Russian Ministry of Defence and is a member of the board of experts within the government of the Russian Federation.

Pukhov in detail goes over the advantages and weak points of both the Ukrainian and the Russian armed forces and offers a sober view of the current situation with the Western weapon supplies to Ukraine. At 2,500 words, the interview is fairly long, but reads well and offers a unique perspective not typical to the usual Russian sources. The original interview in the Russian language is available here.

According to the military expert, in order to launch a decisive offensive, as described by propagandists, Russia will have to 'increase the number of [deployed troops] by at least 1.5 times and restore parity in the field of UAVs [drones] and counter-battery defense in short order'.

Russia’s military operation faces real risks, Odintsov said. Its prolongation may start working against Russia, as Ukraine continues to increase its potential thanks to foreign weapons and a much wider call-up of manpower. Critically, Russian military experts fear that 'with the first major failure, society’s attitude to power will change', and that the Kremlin may simply not have enough resources for a long war (on August 1, it was recorded that Russia has now lost more than 5,000 armored vehicles in five months of the war.)

'Prolongation of the military operation may start working against Russia'
Similar warnings were voiced by another writer for the Military Review, Alexander Staver. He criticized the propaganda myth of 'Slavic brotherhood', emphasized that the main task should be the seizure of Donbas, and predicted possible strikes by Ukraine on the Crimean bridge, Simferopol, and Sevastopol (where a Russian Navy headquarters was struck for the first time by a Ukrainian drone on July 31.)

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Destroyed Russian tank (picture Oryx)

Russia lacks resources
Data from independent analysts confirm the concerns of the Russian military experts. It is obvious that Russia lacks the resources to transition to a decisive offensive, one said. Another said that the majority of Russian society tends to passively support the war and is not ready to personally participate. That is why the Kremlin prefers the tactics of 'hidden' mobilization.

As noted by the American Institute for the Study of War, the Kremlin likely ordered Russian regions to form volunteer battalions to participate in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, instead of declaring partial or full mobilization. According to researchers, such battalions could generate around 34,000 new servicemen by the end of August if each federal area produces at least one military unit of 400 men.

Another non-traditional method of attracting new soldiers is the recruitment of convicted criminals, conducted mainly through the Wagner mercenary group. According to independent media, at least three prisoners recruited in this way have died in Donbas. For six months of service, these 'volunteers' are promised 200,000 rubles (about $3,200) plus an amnesty for those returning alive. According to prisoners’ relatives, these promises are not being officially recorded in any way, and the army will take anyone who wishes to go, regardless of previous military experience.

The prominent Russian human rights activist Olga Romanova also confirmed the recruitment of prisoners for the war. According to her, recruitment is conducted in all regions of Russia, and several hundred people can be recruited from each region. At the same time, there are no legal grounds for sending these people to the combat zone. These recruitment schemes were confirmed by the American Paul Whelan, imprisoned in a Russian colony on charges of espionage. In a press release sent by his brother David, it was said that about 10 prisoners from IK-17, where he is jailed, have gone to the front line.

Such measures may indicate the Kremlin’s lack of resources to wage without a general mobilization that it seems desperate to avoid. At the same time, Putin and his aides have rejected any idea of negotiating with Ukraine at this juncture.

That’s because he has allowed his propaganda narrative to paint him into a corner. The allegation that 'Ukrainian Nazis will destroy the pro-Russian population of the south-east' does not allow the Kremlin much room to retreat from the occupied territories. In the eyes of propaganda consumers, such a retreat would look like a 'betrayal of the Russian people, who have been waiting for liberation for eight years', as the propagandists describe it. Meanwhile, the leadership of Russia’s puppet so-called Donetsk People’s Republic calls for the 'further liberation of Russian cities, including Kyiv'.

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Russian rocketlaunchers

For now, the Kremlin appears to believe that the neatest way to escape this impasse is to rapidly incorporate the occupied territories into Russia. The occupation authorities of the Russian-controlled part of the Zaporozhye region announced on July 14 that a referendum on joining the Russian Federation will be held in the early fall. Plans to annex all of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, as well as the entire Donbas, were also confirmed by American intelligence.

The Kremlin may hope that the annexation of new territories will lead to a new patriotic groundswell, as happened in 2014 after the annexation of Crimea. If that is indeed Putin’s plan, it seems a flimsy basis for optimism. All the while, Ukraine’s counter-attacks are increasing and new units are being formed behind the front lines. Unless something radical changes, Russia’s military has plenty to worry about.

Kseniya Kirillova is an analyst focused on Russian society, mentality, propaganda, and foreign policy. The author of numerous articles for the Jamestown Foundation, she has also written for the Atlantic Council, Stratfor, and others.

This article was published by CEPA.
 
For Kremlin ofc now looks that is comfortable to tackle slow war at least till nov- dec....
Or even better get some soft temporary ceasefire in order to.....get time to rest...accumulate and produce more weapons....

Maybe even replace Putin with someone else ...in order to fool naive westerners....with someone else even more crazy and sneaky dude...
Like some months- years to rest and prepare and then again West will get next lecture....even more brutal than now...

Why not.
xx candidates to gave even more brutal treatment for West....esp if bearing in mind how naive dreamers a lot of ppl still are...
 
Russia looks that is preparing to connect power plants in occupied territories to Russia's energosystem.
While phyiscal connection is peace of cake for them, they also need to sinchronize freqency in gird....

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Kremlin still does have very huge advantage in artillery and MRLS systems numbers.
+ is is suspected and cos real reasons that Lukashenko now is providing Russia with ammo, esp for 122 mm and 152 mm cannons/ guns....
1. Russia had promised to deliver Belarus Iskander missiles.
2. Had already stationed even more equipment and manpower in Belarus.
3. Soon will be next Belarus - Russia's joint military exercises ..
4. Belarus while crying about " bad west lurking to deNazify Minsk" is accumulating weapons since 1994 th with a glance...
It is giant USSR era weapons warehouse and they even managed to produce new stuff like Polonez MRLS and still does have even old SCUD launchers...
 
Russia's crude oil transit via Ukraine today had been stopped...
Most likely because money hungry animals in ukraine cos sanctions can't get transit fees anymore....

Until this: nice crying and ....smooth transit .....
Damn....
+ animals had lectured all world not to buy Russia's oil and natural gas....
 
IDK, I find these numbers hard to believe. Seems like everyone who throws out a number these days goes a little bigger than the last. If this is true it's quite damning for russia.


i imagine it's close. RUF command is pretty laughable and manages its men and amour pretty poorly
 
More footage from Crimea, very much looks like that both munitions bunkers went poof





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No. I'd bet on a modified drone as used against that refinery in Rostov few months back. A mission made much easier by using HARMs.



Still left wondering how exactly are they launching those.



i think its threw Himars, it teechhhhnically can, but...
 
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