International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

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Anewt said:
There has been resistance from some countries, including Poland, who feel their contingency plans do not need a boost from Brussels.
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Why not? Germany and Co had been warned years ago that Russia might use supplies as blakcmail tool.

Germany ofc assumed that they are more smart than countries they assumed to be " nervous poor eastern europe ". Like Poland and Lithuania.

While now they are eating lessons...

+ sorry, started to ate lessons in 2021 th with market prices hike for natural gas....

Interestingly how they might achieve so called famous de dollarization?
With petro rouble?
Okey, if they want....

Actually story that dollar will collapse if crude oil and natural gas will be sold for rouble or juan etc ....looks like kindergarden level dream.

While currencies like petro rouble really will move up/down like puppets in circus in correlation with crude oil prices.
 
Old news, but it just popped up on the news site I frequent. Not a lot of news stuff that makes me LOL.

Meanwhile in the international space station:


The liberation day of Lugansk people's republic is being celebrated on land and in space.

The entire territory has been liberated. The forces of Russia and Lugansk have taken over the last major city of the area.

Russian space agency and our astronauts who are now working in the international space station joins the celebration of the new victory day.

This is a day which the people of the occupied territories have been waiting for for the past 8 years. We are sure that July 3rd, 2022 will be a significant date in the history of the republic.

People of Donetsk, wait for us!

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Zinger said:
Old news, but it just popped up on the news site I frequent. Not a lot of news stuff that makes me LOL.

Meanwhile in the international space station:


The liberation day of Lugansk people's republic is being celebrated on land and in space.

The entire territory has been liberated. The forces of Russia and Lugansk have taken over the last major city of the area.

Russian space agency and our astronauts who are now working in the international space station joins the celebration of the new victory day.

This is a day which the people of the occupied territories have been waiting for for the past 8 years. We are sure that July 3rd, 2022 will be a significant date in the history of the republic.

People of Donetsk, wait for us!

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I remember this in regards to the cosmonauts .


"Russian cosmonauts board space station wearing blue and yellow, Ukrainian colors : NPR" https://www.npr.org/2022/03/19/1087722545/russian-cosmonauts-space-station-ukraine-colors
 
MTT said:
At least you have the courage of your convictions. You're right, there are a lot more. Supporting a dictator who assassinates his political enemies and is attempting to conquer neighbors in the 21st century isn't something many are comfortable openly admitting. They are cowards but post content reveals all.



I wouldn't bet on it. Make no mistake, God is on America's side. If a wide-scale war breaks out, I wish to see the USA create a battalion of coupled transexual lovers similar to the Sacred Band of Thebes. They would mop the floor with the Russians.
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But they ARE comftorable supporting imperialism as long as it's done through coups and corporate control. As long as the facade of borders and democratic choice is there people should feel comftorable.
 
ferrisjso said:
But they ARE comftorable supporting imperialism as long as it's done through coups and corporate control. As long as the facade of borders and democratic choice is there people should feel comftorable.
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At this moment in time, do you think America fits the technical definition of an imperialistic nation? If not, which countries are you referencing?
 
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MTT said:
At this moment in time, do you think America fits the technical definition of an imperialistic nation?
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The fact you're latching on to the word technical really just proves the point. The US's imperialism is ususally more direct(usually, look at Iraq) but it's actually worse because of it's manipulative nature.

The US isn't a traditional imperial state who conquers and holds territorys it installs friendly regimes(typically fascist) that are friendly to US interests and has middlemen from the same country.
 
ferrisjso said:
The fact you're latching on to the word technical really just proves the point. The US's imperialism is ususally more direct(usually, look at Iraq) but it's actually worse because of it's manipulative nature.

The US isn't a traditional imperial state who conquers and holds territorys it installs friendly regimes(typically fascist) that are friendly to US interests and has middlemen from the same country.
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Words matter

I can name a country that does fit the definition of imperialistic.
 
MTT said:
Words matter

I can name a country that does fit the definition of imperialistic.
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Yes following your own arbitary rules tends to get any outcome you want it to. You sound like one of those people that respects the legal system and institutions more than people.
 
ferrisjso said:
But they ARE comftorable supporting imperialism as long as it's done through coups and corporate control. As long as the facade of borders and democratic choice is there people should feel comftorable.
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What kind of coups you are takling about, my Kremlin's supporter?

+sadly for you we know that Russia does have wild capitalism and corporate culture...
Ofc, if in Russia, then corps for you automatically will be good thing and imperialism too will be good.

Banks, gyms, retail stores networks, HR agencies, IT companies networks etc.
Pawnshops and pubs chains.
Franchises.
All this is also in Mother Russia.

Ofc stuff like Gazprom and Rosneftj are de facto FSB ( KГБ ) controlled businesses.

__
If you love such capitalism form...might relocate to Russia ASAP.
 
Siver! said:
BRICS is a wannabe opposition to the Western world, based on emerging economies, several decades behind the infrastructures they are set up to challenge.

If you want to talk about nations that want to join BRICS, look at Iran and other South American countries.

They're generally the furthest away from the Western world looking for a stronger foothold in the worldwide economy.

It's cool, because if the West won't trade with them, that shouldn't stop them trading.

Turkey's not joining it, though.
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This tweet reminded me of this convo
 
In regards to the recruitment situation in Russia:



I think it was announced the next aid package will include an additional 4 HIMARS, bringing the total to 16.
 
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https://meduza.io/news/2022/07/20/e...zayavil-ob-izmenenii-geografii-spetsoperatsii

Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov says that the geographical objectives of the Russian Special military operation in Ukraine have changed.

It's not just Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics anymore. It's also Kherson, Zaporozhye, and other territories.

The aim is still de-nazification and de-militarization of Ukraine, but since the talks in Istambul, which happened in march, things
have changed.

If the West keeps arming and supplying Ukraine, making it a
security and souvereignty threat to Russia and the liberated republics, they are preparing to push even further to remove the danger.
 
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Zinger said:


https://meduza.io/news/2022/07/20/e...zayavil-ob-izmenenii-geografii-spetsoperatsii

Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov says that the geographical objectives of the Russian Special military operation in Ukraine have changed.

It's not just Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics anymore. It's also Kherson, Zaporozhye, and other territories.

The aim is still de-nazification and de-militarization of Ukraine, but since the talks in Istambul, which happened in march, the geographical objectives have changed.

If the West keeps arming Ukraine, we are preparing to push even further than the lines that we have drawn.
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Read further his bullshit.

Initially for russians in russia they had stated TOTAL deNaxification of ALL Ukraine...as main target.
Also that Ukraine isn't country and nation...

+ Medvedev and xx dudes in Duma had promised to eliminate from face of the earth Moldova...at least as country and nation.

I think you should relocate to Russia...winners country.
Or China.
Whit police in China searching private rooms to lurk for covid contact persons...

Really...
Or Minsk with Lukashenko...why not?
Dude is claiming that Poland & NATO and Lithuania are aiming to deNazify Minsk and Kaliningrad oblastj
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..
Plus neo Nazists maifest about total deUkrainisation in Ukraine ...
Had been deleted from RIA website on FSB ( KGB ) request.
Cos even for Putin this was too hot stuff...
 
SandisLL said:
Read further his bullshit.

Initially for russians in russia they had stated TOTAL deNaxification of ALL Ukraine...as main target.
Also that Ukraine isn't country and nation...

+ Medvedev and xx dudes in Duma had promised to eliminate from face of the earth Moldova...at least as country and nation.

I think you should relocate to Russia...winners country.
Or China.
Whit police searching private rooms to lurk for covid contact persons...

Really...
Or Minsk with Lukashenko...why not?
Dude is claiming that Poland & NATO and Lithuania are aiming to deNazify Minsk and Kaliningrad oblastj
..
..
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<JagsKiddingMe>

I'm just making people aware of Lavrov's recent interview, so they know what's up.

Would be nice if I could read the original,to fully understand what's going on instead of the cherrypicked retelling of it by the western media.

Lavrov is a pretty important dude in all this and always comes out with bangers whenever he opens his mouth.
 
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MTT said:
At least you have the courage of your convictions. You're right, there are a lot more. Supporting a dictator who assassinates his political enemies and is attempting to conquer neighbors in the 21st century isn't something many are comfortable openly admitting. They are cowards but post content reveals all.



I wouldn't bet on it. Make no mistake, God is on America's side. If a wide-scale war breaks out, I wish to see the USA create a battalion of coupled transexual lovers similar to the Sacred Band of Thebes. They would mop the floor with the Russians.
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But they'd take 40% casualties before reaching the battlefield. ;)
 
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Zinger said:
<JagsKiddingMe>

I'm just making people aware of Lavrov's recent interview, so they know what's up.

Would be nice if I could read the original,to fully understand what's going on instead of the cherrypicked retelling of it by the western media.

Lavrov is a pretty important dude in all this.
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He isn't important...like all ministry of foreign affairs...
Casual liars.
Even Medvedev is more important and Patrushev too.

BTW for me easily is to see that Medvedev does have some one problem like I do have...it is what it is...

And thank God that he today isn't in Putin's place.
Even I might list how I might oredered to deal with Kiev ....
Sadly fictional fantasy and with 0 nukes used..and 0 shells on casual buildings....

Fantasy but with high effect....

While if Navalny had ruled Russia, most likely before 24.02 Nord Stream I already had get almost 0 supplies and maybe ultimatum to cede East Germany and Czech Republic already had been done...
 
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