International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[LangfordBarrow]

Sad reality most don't get is Russia is winning. km by km after initial FSB fail of country would roll over like Spot at first sign of Russian invasion. They didnt so Russia went into grinding artillery mode and laying waste to everything within 30km of it's path.

Once President Biden is told this he will have two choices. Give up and leave Russia controlling the most profitable parts of Ukraine, or USA vs Russia.

Not entirely but this looks more like it's becoming Russia versus the world.

 

[SandisLL]

Ha ha ha.
Of course a lot of westerners are stupid like cavemans.
They might by all Russia's propaganda and for sure are thinking: this village Ukraine should had been under Russia and even doesn't matters if it will be called Zimbabve, Russia's oblastj in Russia etc.

Just let you alone and there will be cheap fuel automatically etc ants dreams.......
Also western ants easily are buying agenda " nationalism ", " nazi " cos they doesn't know a bare shit about Russia.

Phase 1. : Ukraine easily deNazified, west and east is happy, ants in cubicles are dreaming about cheap fuel and long term stability.
Phase 2. : Low commodities prices and peace is last things kleptocrats want to have.
Vuala, next " conflict " in some country, prices again are hiking up.
Ants still will continue to dream. Ant average is...a dreamer living in illusions...
Suitable specimen to be used by elite.
Phase 3...
Ant again is dreaming ( ants are born to live in dreams ).
Vuala, all this repeats again.
Prices are growing again, ant still is dreaming.

 

[Videer]

Russia has (almost certainly, but still not visually confirmed) achieved a small breakout from Popasna in the east, lets see if this leads to anything.
Map by Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000

 

[SandisLL]

For me looks that IRL west and east had sold Ukraine to russia.
World is brutal and no one cares...
While some mistakes happened in long row.
deNazification in 2-3-7 days didn't happened.....
Interstingly then sanctions yet didn't had been introduced IRL and looks that for a reason.

Next failure: too loud yelling and threats with nukes, cocky attitude and so on.
EU is filling with refugees, population disstatisfied.
Exports from Ukraines ports blocked.

Nice Russia's actions in nuclear power plants.

Ohh, and now.....it is too much even for cynics in west.
They will place Russia in it's place even if this will take years ....and Russia is stupid country, they will get lesson when will not except to get.
Slow and irrewersible.

About ukr ofc no one will care, it now is just amortizator.
Like spring to push.

 

[Vergilius]

Sad reality most don't get is Russia is winning. km by km after initial FSB fail of country would roll over like Spot at first sign of Russian invasion. They didnt so Russia went into grinding artillery mode and laying waste to everything within 30km of it's path.

Once President Biden is told this he will have two choices. Give up and leave Russia controlling the most profitable parts of Ukraine, or USA vs Russia.

It would be more correct to say that Russia is still trying to run an offensive campaign than to claim they are winning. Most serious analysts are saying that what we are seeing is the final push Russia is capable of with the troops available to it. That movement is creeping along, but so far with no major breakthroughs. In the next few weeks, the Russian offensive will culminate as their forces suffer attrition. Then the big question is going to be whether Ukraine can mount either 1) a serious counter offensive, depriving the Russians of most of their gains 2) a limited counteroffensive regaining only bits of territory or 3) we reach a total stalemate.

Right now, Russia is still bleeding manpower and material, because the attacker generally suffers higher attrition than the defender. We haven't seen Ukraine on the offensive much, so the summer months will be telling - can they be as succesful on offense as they have been on defense when the momentum shifts and Russia gains the advantage of playing defense against their counter offensive?

Ukraine refusing negotiations right now indicates that they believe they can put the Russian army in serious trouble. We'll see.

 

[jimbob27]

This is counterfactual
Congress even sanctioned Nazis of Ukraine.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...ersial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis/
Furthermore tones of articles written about them prior to war we have now
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

Truth is not allowed out now because so much at stake.

I didn't say they didn't exist, I said using it as justification for war is purely propaganda aimed at zombie brained Russians or easily gaslighted westerners.

If Russia is really so concerned about Nazis it should do something about it's own first.

 

[DoomPatrol]

USA or USSR? Who's hurting whom?

Bro... You do realize that the major shortage of baby food is from a contamination recall that shut down a major plant that supplies 1/5th of all our baby formula....... So what the fuck does that have to do with Russia and Ukraine?

And second. Let's check out photos of Russian supermarkets and see how they are doing. Let's check out that Russian stock market too while we are at it. Let's see who's really suffering

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine refusing negotiations right now indicates that they believe they can put the Russian army in serious trouble. We'll see.

Well, I think that now it is Russia, all " talks " are just imitation.
They most likely are aksking for suff Ukraine can't agree.
And this definitely isn't no NATO or EU membership ( both these always needed ukraine like a dog 5 th leg...).

Europe in general for sure prefred if ukraine imediately started to export smoothly and collected back all these refugees ...
Ofc russia still had get punished in long term....however not cos ukr are suffering etc .

Ukr for them is only one step in long road to build gigantic empire from Lisbon till Vladivostok.

What they asked besides bullshit excuse reasons about NATO and EU?
.
Demilitarozation . ie annexion...
Recognize Crinmea and some other areas as Russia's property...

Then most likely next step IRL had been : to instal a puppet and puppets in Kiev.

Then after this deNazification in Moldova.
Then next victims.

Now they will do referendum to incorporate South Osetia in Russia... summer.

 

[D3THRONED]

Sad reality most don't get is Russia is winning. km by km after initial FSB fail of country would roll over like Spot at first sign of Russian invasion. They didnt so Russia went into grinding artillery mode and laying waste to everything within 30km of it's path.

Once President Biden is told this he will have two choices. Give up and leave Russia controlling the most profitable parts of Ukraine, or USA vs Russia.

Lol wrong.

 

[PEB]

Looks like a rushed knockoff of Lockheed Defiant helicopter.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I didn't say they didn't exist

Actually you did.

There is only one country of murdering fascists in this war and it's the side with Z painted on all their tanks.

 

[PEB]

 

[PEB]

 

[Strychnine]

Smaller attacks by Russia. Change in tactics or the effect of low supplies?

 

[SandisLL]

Belarus : Lukashenko accused in terrorism etc support some random bloggers nonames and some guy from nexta channel.
Is dreaming about large russian base stationed and missiles production with assistance from Kremlin.
Had recieved more MRLS launchers...

 

[Strychnine]

Live updates | Putin complains about barrage of cyberattacks


"MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country has faced a barrage of cyberattacks from the West amid the invasion of Ukraine but has successfully fended them off.

Speaking Friday to members of Russia’s Security Council, Putin noted that “the challenges in this area have become even more pressing, serious and extensive.”

He charged that “an outright aggression has been unleashed against Russia, a war has been waged in the information space.”

Putin added that “the cyber-aggression against us, the same as the attack on Russia by sanctions in general, has failed.”

He ordered officials to “perfect and enhance the mechanisms of ensuring information security at critically important industrial facilities which have a direct bearing on our country’s defensive capability, and the stable development of the economic and social spheres.”
Live updates | Putin complains about barrage of cyberattacks (msn.com)

When all of the cyberattacks were being waged against hospitals, schools, and businesses in the West, Russia was as silent as a church mouse. Now that they're on the receiving end, things are unfair?

 

[SandisLL]

Germany: is accused that de facto delivered only 7 self propelled guns, all other stuff still is empty talks.
IMHO IRL Germany's gubbermint is too closely tied with Russia...and is dreaming sooner get rid from refugees and open....North Stream II.

Poland will not buy Russia's natural gas.
Finland stopped to buy electrictity and when Russia threatened to close natural gas valves, told ....let's do this.

While I think that Finland was wrong when talked about 0 permanent NATO bases in Finland.
They should had asked....exactly to station troops.
St. Pete and It's oblastj already is gigantic weapons warehouse and with a lot of ships, troops and different missiles....since 1960 ies.

So there is nothing to fear about Shoigu talks that they will establish bases.
They just will remove from underground storages and basements in St. Pete and it's oblastj some stuff and openly display ...

 

[PEB]

Chinese leader Xi is extremely disappointed with President Putin and questions the reasoning for continuation of the war that seems to have turned the worldwide opinions of Russia to never wanting to deal with them again. Xi is apparently seeking an exist plan by Putin sooner rather then later.

Edit: In other news Russia has turned to China to buy 2010 to 2014 vintage AMD compatible x86 chips for their PC's. The chips are based on 14nm design or 32nm design. To replace the loss of accessing newer designs.

 

[SandisLL]

Live updates | Putin complains about barrage of cyberattacks


"MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country has faced a barrage of cyberattacks from the West amid the invasion of Ukraine but has successfully fended them off.

Speaking Friday to members of Russia’s Security Council, Putin noted that “the challenges in this area have become even more pressing, serious and extensive.”

He charged that “an outright aggression has been unleashed against Russia, a war has been waged in the information space.”

Putin added that “the cyber-aggression against us, the same as the attack on Russia by sanctions in general, has failed.”

He ordered officials to “perfect and enhance the mechanisms of ensuring information security at critically important industrial facilities which have a direct bearing on our country’s defensive capability, and the stable development of the economic and social spheres.”
Live updates | Putin complains about barrage of cyberattacks (msn.com)

When all of the cyberattacks were being waged against hospitals, schools, and businesses in the West, Russia was as silent as a church mouse. Now that they're on the receiving end, things are unfair?

As usually, it is Russia.

And here...nor Zelensky nor west might stop this.
They should not tell that ukrainians aren't nation.
Too much of them are in west, east and even in Russia.

Game just had been started.

 

[MIKOM]

Chinese leader Xi is extremely disappointed with President Putin and questions the reasoning for continuation of the war that seems to have turned the worldwide opinions of Russia to never wanting to deal with them again. Xi is apparently seeking an exist plan by Putin sooner rather then later.

Edit: In other news Russia has turned to China to buy 2010 to 2014 vintage AMD compatible x86 chips for their PC's. The chips are based on 14nm design or 32nm design. To replace the loss of accessing newer designs.