International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[Blayt7hh]

I thought CBS had a good reputation?

You didn't even quote the documentary or whatever itself, you quoted an ad. Are you seriously not getting this?

 

[Videer]

T-80BVM. Commander looks a bit smokey, cheering heard from local Lada dealership.

 

[Joe]

I dont know if i can post it but have you seen the drone dropping on a russian laying in the field. Its the craziest video

 

[GhostZ06]

Wow. I never thought of it that way. I'm serious.

lol i doubt the russians, "trust" china

 

[Joe]

Russia using amnestys report against ukraine and continued civilian targets. Nice job

 

[SandisLL]

Amnesty looks that is Russia's puppet.
Nothing surprising: we all know that U.N is China's and Russia's puppet org...
Just one from real facts; China and Russia does have VETO rights in this theater parody called U.N.

Next cool China's puppet is WHO with it's plandemics....and yelling& crying....

 

[Strychnine]

Patrushev today is directly supervising deNazification in Ukraine...

They had changed some generals responsible for deNazification in Ukraine and looks that are preparing some " referendum " in Luhansk oblastj...

Dobnas area: from one area according to ukr from ~ 1 700 000 ppl majority had relocated and just approx 350 000 had remained in areas suspected soon to be fight areas....

You have a link for this info?

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Russia using amnestys report against ukraine and continued civilian targets. Nice job

This is interesting would you have preferred amnesty to have not published their findings or not investigated to start with?

 

[GhostZ06]

Woah, what do we have here......

Images appeared on the social media platform Telegram on Sunday, August 7th, showing what appears to be the wreckage of an AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM) — a U.S. missile used to home in on active air defense radars and disable or destroy them — that is said to have appeared on the battlefield in Ukraine. At this time, there is no official information pointing to the AGM-88 having been supplied to Ukraine, which would be an all-new advanced capability for the invaded nation. In regards to HARMs in Ukraine, here's what's possible, what we know, and what we don't.



First off, it is impossible at this time to say definitively what is going on here. Many HARMs have been fired as part of many military operations' suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD) components and in training over the years. Wreckage of some of those missiles, or even intact specimens, has surely found its way into foreign intelligence units' hands. With that in mind, taking a photo of it and inserting it into the open-source maelstrom that surrounds the Ukraine conflict would be an easy play at disinformation. Manipulating the photo itself is also a possibility. Russia has been increasingly aggressive in its rhetoric about the U.S. and NATO being considered active players in the conflict because of their advanced weapons transfers, this would fit into that narrative nicely.

Looks like we have something interesting. Rumors are Either we gave them a prototype Ground based verison of A HARM, or the sudden arrival of F-22s may have fired them across the border.
Or we gave them the pylons so they can fit them on theyre aircraft

Second, some have jumped to the conclusion that these could have been fired by NATO aircraft as part of a secret air campaign against Russia air defenses. This is extremely unlikely bordering on fiction. There is zero indication that this is the case. In fact, there is every indication that NATO continues to avoid a direct military confrontation with Russia at all costs. Some have even posited that the F-22s that recently arrived in Poland could have fired it on secret missions over Ukraine. This is impossible. The F-22 cannot carry the HARM and even if it could, it could not fit in its weapons bays which would totally negate its low observable advantage.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ave-agm-88-high-speed-anti-radiation-missiles

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[Zinger]

Russia using amnestys report against ukraine and continued civilian targets. Nice job

So the schools, supermarkets and the cinema might have been used as ammunition storage facilities (or whatever russians said their military significance was) after all.



The amnesty guys have done a bear's favour by smearing the good guy.

Russian propoganda machine won't even have to make shit up. We have a western organization calling out Ukraine and doing research that is useful to justify Russia.

Or, if I put my tinfoil hat on, these amnesty guys knew what they are doing with this and are Russian shills interested to drag Ukraine through mud. After how these guys attacked my country and gave almost zero fucks about Belarus in the past, in my extremely biased opinion, that might be true too.

Ehh, whatever, it's war. Everyone involved is commiting crimes. Can't win it with hugs and handshakes when it's gotten to this point.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

So the schools, supermarkets and the cinema might have been used as ammunition storage facilities (or whatever russians said) after all.

I mean it's always been plausible for anyone paying attention. Can't really blame them for doing it when I think about it though.

Spoiler

 

[Andy Capp]

Russia using amnestys report against ukraine and continued civilian targets. Nice job

Re: Always ask who was inside; no, always ask why the fuck don't the goddamn Russians get the fuck out of Ukraine and then it doesn't matter who was inside. Fuck those scum.

 

[Andy Capp]

So the schools, supermarkets and the cinema might have been used as ammunition storage facilities (or whatever russians said their military significance was) after all.



The amnesty guys have done "A favour of a bear" as we say here. A well intended gesture that instead of helping makes things even worse.

Again, Russian propoganda machine won't even have to make shit up. We have a western organization calling out Ukraine. Turns out their bullshit might not actually be bullshit.

Or, if I put my tinfoil hat on, it might still be, and these amnesty guys are Russian shills interested to drag Ukraine through mud.

And they still have no justification because they're engaged in an offense against humanity.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

So the schools, supermarkets and the cinema might have been used as ammunition storage facilities (or whatever russians said their military significance was) after all.



The amnesty guys have done "A favour of a bear" as we say here. A well intended gesture that instead of helping makes things even worse.

Again, Russian propoganda machine won't even have to make shit up. We have a western organization calling out Ukraine. Turns out their bullshit might not actually be bullshit.

Or, if I put my tinfoil hat on, it might still be, and these amnesty guys are Russian shills interested to drag Ukraine through mud. After how these guys attacked my country in the past that might be true too.

Ehh, whatever, it's war. Everyone involved is commiting crimes.

I think its obvious everyone lies, it's just to what extent and about what which is the tricky part.

You have people who claim the defender shouldn't follow any rules like Mr angry above, that can seem appealing and easy until "we" decide to have out next jaunt into the middle east and get angry when the locals start suicide bombing and shooting from civilian targets again. That's at risk of going off topic but I think you get my point.

 

[AWilder]

Woah, what do we have here......






Looks like we have something interesting. Rumors are Either we gave them a prototype Ground based verison of A HARM, or the sudden arrival of F-22s may have fired them across the border.
Or we gave them the pylons so they can fit them on theyre aircraft

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ave-agm-88-high-speed-anti-radiation-missiles

yeah the nato story is BS. even stealth aircraft are not invisible to all radar (good at avoiding detection needed for a lock-on, not invisible to wide band radar that is less accurate). They would pickup the missiles pretty early and the russians would have to be completely blind to not know who fired the missiles.

 

[AWilder]

Lol North Korea offers Russia 100k soon to be defec- soldiers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...north-korea-offers-kremlin-100000-troops/amp/

 

[GhostZ06]

yeah the nato story is BS. even stealth aircraft are not invisible to all radar (good at avoiding detection needed for a lock-on, not invisible to wide band radar that is less accurate). They would pickup the missiles pretty early and the russians would have to be completely blind to not know who fired the missiles.

So far F-22 has yet to be detected by current Russian radar. i could See F-22 be able to go in undetected, but its not the case, here is the update.



UPDATE:

Apparently, Ukraine's defense minister Oleksiy Reznikov was quoted by Ukrainian media as recently saying anti-radiation missiles would be sent to Ukraine during a national address (translated):

"Based on this level of trust, we will continue to receive assistance. And you definitely saw the package announced, if I'm not mistaken, for $270 million with the signature of the President of the United States that we will get four more HIMARS, we will get special anti-radar missiles that we had before. This will allow you and I to effectively destroy their (the enemy's - ed.) radar system, essentially blinding the enemy, which will give us the opportunity to gain an advantage for a counteroffensive."

It still isn't clear if this is related to the HARM development, but it would seem very possible. The $270M aid package Reznikov is referring to was announced in late July.

Also, it's worth noting that the HIMARS launcher could potentially be adapted to fire a ground-launch AGM-88 and has the interface that could be adapted to control it. Similar studies, as well as tests, were done for using HIMARS as an air defense platform over a decade ago, including launching the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

what the fuck kind of fire control system did we put in HIMARS, apparently it can like SAM and Surface-to-Surface assets.

 

[AWilder]

Interesting analysis

 

[AWilder]

So far F-22 has yet to be detected by current Russian radar. i could See F-22 be able to go in undetected, but its not the case, here is the update.



UPDATE:



what the fuck kind of fire control system did we put in HIMARS, apparently it can like SAM and Surface-to-Surface assets.

Ukraine's GIS artillery application is a huge leap over traditional fire control.