Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[SandisLL]

Btw while dudes like Prince of Pain might post his opinions what is important and what is small or isn't ....
Finland's economy by GDP net value was larger than Belarus and +Ukraine economy together taken before war in Ukraine.
So " small ".

 

[SanchoMF]

@idrankyourbeer need to look at this tractor action time for a dance meme!

You got my attention.

 

[PEB]

You got my attention.

Looking for idrankyourbeer sorry but good anyways.

 

[SandisLL]

Btw I have 1 question: why Ukraine even today is maintaining russia's natural gas transit ?
Isn't this big scheme : like 2006/2007: gold is bad investment, buy mortgage with loan?.
Someone does have some opinions here?

 

[SanchoMF]

Looking for idrankyourbeer sorry but good anyways.

OK but post more birds.

 

[Denter]

Btw I have 1 question: why Ukraine even today is maintaining russia's natural gas transit ?
Isn't this big scheme : like 2006/2007: gold is bad investment, buy mortgage with loan?.
Someone does have some opinions here?

Probably because they like the transit fees.

 

[Videer]

British Brimstone missile launcher installed on a party wagon resulting in a modern tank destroyer. Dismiss the text, I'd wager this was filmed when Ukrainians were being trained to use it.



and more Brimstone remains found, this deffo exploded.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61425025

Look at these disgusting cunts.

Hang them.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

The US isn't fighting a war with Russia.



"most potential to fuck up" man that defintively is an understatement.



Exactly, most of these idiots who said that if Ukraine was not allowed into NATO then Russia wouldn't invade were wrong.



You sould like those Israelis that bulldoze a house in the West Bank and then bitch at the residents throwing rocks at them when they do.



Of course, the context here was appeasement, the EU has done nothing but appeasement towards Russia and Russia mistook that for weakness.

Appeasement? We've been soft walking Ukraine into NATO since '08. Then we helped insure Ukrainians picked the "right" leader after the '14 revolution and then further aligned NATO with Ukraine in 2021.

That's quite the mollification on our part. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

 

[syct23]

OK but post more birds.

Birds aren't real..

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Appeasement? We've been soft walking Ukraine into NATO since '08. Then we helped insure Ukrainians picked the "right" leader after the '14 revolution and then further aligned NATO with Ukraine in 2021.

That's quite the mollification on our part. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

Why would Ukraine possibly feel the need for extra security loooooool

Russia's stance on NATO is self-defeating and embarrassing.

Now they're upset about Finland and Sweden. Why would THEY possibly want the extra security of NATO, it's not like Russia just goes around invading neigh---

Oh, never mind.

They've been doing that non stop for 150 years, so yeah.

 

[aries]

Most likely is small border conflict to freeze nato application

Like lets denazify cole trains village near border because it has too many skinheads or some shit

I don't think NATO will abide by that. It would be gaming the system by Putin. I really hope they don't play by the rules if that occurs. That would just make them a bunch of mugs.

If they don't want a direct confrontation with Russia they could occupy the rest of Finland with NATO troops and surround the trouble spot to contain it. I don't see any way for Putin to prevent this from happening short of nukes. There is a going to be a rapid scrabble to get Finland into NATO whilst Russia are still tied up in Ukraine. Putin has fucked up big time.

 

[Cole train]

I don't think NATO will abide by that. It would be gaming the system by Putin. I really hope they don't play by the rules if that occurs. That would just make them a bunch of mugs.

If they don't want a direct confrontation with Russia they could occupy the rest of Finland with NATO troops and surround the trouble spot to contain it. I don't see any way for Putin to prevent this from happening short of nukes. There is a going to be a rapid scrabble to get Finland into NATO whilst Russia are still tied up in Ukraine. Putin has fucked up big time.

Well gaming the system is what neighbour is very good at.

We shall see

 

[aries]

Of course, the context here was appeasement, the EU has done nothing but appeasement towards Russia and Russia mistook that for weakness.

Several people that personally have known Putin have described him as only respecting strength and seeing weakness as an opportunity. He fucked Merkel who he perceived as weak by walking her into the gas deal which has hamstrung Germany and played nice with Macron who he perceived as weak, played up to his ego and suckered him into thinking he had influence over Putin and basically used him as a useful idiot. NATO, really France and Germany, Putin saw as a soft touch and probably to an extent Biden. Toothless and compromised. His unopposed actions in Crimea and the Donbas were partly tests to see the response he'd get from NATO. That's why he dared to invade Ukraine proper.

 

[aries]

Well gaming the system is what neighbour is very good at.

We shall see

Putin is clever but I think he's really overstretched himself and misjudged the reaction of the rest of the world badly. He's in damage limitation mode now. I'd be very surprised if he can come up with a crafty get out. But as you say, we will shall see.

 

[TheGreatA]

Well gaming the system is what neighbour is very good at.

We shall see

I think the major change will be Russia moving its nuclear potential close to the border, along with having a constant military presence around the region. There will obviously be annual military exercises and threats/intimidation by amassing troops/violating borders to a much greater extent that there have ever been.

Outright invasion seems highly unlikely considering that they have their hands full in Ukraine, but there will never be any sort of cordial diplomatic or trade relations between Finland or Russia ever again. That part of our history, where we've served as sort of a mediator between the West and the East, is effectively over. It will just be clear hostility between the two, from this day, to the end of days. It will also reflect on how Russians will view Finnish people, and vice versa, no longer as neutral participants, but as clear enemies.

 

[SandisLL]

Appeasement? We've been soft walking Ukraine into NATO since '08. Then we helped insure Ukrainians picked the "right" leader after the '14 revolution and then further aligned NATO with Ukraine in 2021.

That's quite the mollification on our part. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

Go to hell my russian troll.
Everyone with at least HS level skills does have real sense that war in Ukraine is cos economical reasons and to build next empire from Lisbon till Vladivostok.
Tales in media about NATO evil and bad west etc are stuff for dumb ants. Ants should be milked....

Your idiotic 390 EUR / month in St Pete or till maybe 600 british pounds take home pay level is easy to see.

Ukraine never had chance to get in NATO during next years and the same with EU membership.
Your officers just are stupid as hell cos if they didn't had invaded for next term by 90% " bad " Zelenski even wasn't president. Ukraine loves ro change rulers....
Not alone to cry for unskilled plebs about NATO or EU here....

If Ukrainians had thrpwed out very lazy and dumb kleptocrat and had elected parliament and president in internationally supervised elections you and your boss might just cry....
Get this, you don't deserve even 390 EUR monthly paycheck take home for your work in ....troll pharm.

 

[Cole train]

I think the major change will be Russia moving its nuclear potential close to the border, along with having a constant military presence around the region. There will obviously be annual military exercises and threats/intimidation by amassing troops/violating borders to a much greater extent that there have ever been.

Outright invasion seems highly unlikely considering that they have their hands full in Ukraine, but there will never be any sort of cordial diplomatic or trade relations between Finland or Russia ever again. That part of our history is effectively over. It will just be clear hostility between the two.

Yup diplomacy is over

I expect worst case scenario is small border conflict to block nato application, full assault not possible without mobilization, heavy cyber warfare incoming though.

Then again i said rus wont invade ukr but here we are so wtf do i know lol.

One.thing that worries me and border guys actually is that russia might try to pull what belarus did to poland and use refugees as weapon and flood us with them aka hyprid warfare.

There is zero readiness for that stuff here

 

[SandisLL]

I think the major change will be Russia moving its nuclear potential close to the border, along with having a constant military presence around the region. There will obviously be annual military exercises and threats/intimidation by amassing troops/violating borders to a much greater extent that there have ever been.

Outright invasion seems highly unlikely considering that they have their hands full in Ukraine, but there will never be any sort of cordial diplomatic or trade relations between Finland or Russia ever again. That part of our history, where we've served as sort of a mediator between the West and the East, is effectively over. It will just be clear hostility between the two, from this day, to the end of days. It will also reflect on how Russians will view Finnish people, and vice versa.

They does have nukes in Kalingrad oblastj and St Pete oblastj since 1960 ies...
Even had upgraded bunkers after 2014 th, absolutely nothing new.

 

[SandisLL]

Yup diplomacy is over


There is zero readiness for that stuff here

You don't know...
Ppl are preparing all days and nights now ....more than 75 days in row.