Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[SandisLL]

Sanctions btw will be improved next week.

Russia looks that doesn't knows why they will get this.
Plus increased supplies to Ukraine, arming up europe and filled with more weapons.
All these talks in media usually are for mainstream ppl.

Russia afforded

to threat with nuclear weapons NATO, threat about fin natural gas supplies EU and....filled EU with refugees and still are cocky....we have propaganda, oil and natural gas and nuke.

No one anymore cares about their bullshit propaganda.
They also disturbed huge export chains and disbalanced food, commodities, gold etc prices....

And they only are a bit tasting outcome.
Yeah, we are preparing for russia'a military
attack 75 days and nights, for possible diversions, provocations and don't care anymore about already predictable russia's excuses...and troll pharms etc noise.

We had warned dumbasses that Russia immediately might stop any export to EU/EEZ/U.K .... 24.02.2022 and asses in cubicles should had to think about this.

Hungary for example still is getting natural gas through....vuala Ukraine...

Sorry....Ukraine really needs sanctions, I think.
They are milking us and ....vuala...doing...damn.
Ofc weapons they will get and after last crying from russia, looks that more than had been planned to sent them.

 

[Tayski]

You really have no idea what the fuck you are talking about do you?

https://www.reuters.com/business/ru...r-economy-ministry-document-shows-2022-04-27/

GPD is set to be -12% or more, the biggest decline in Russia since 1994, fucking HORRIBLE for them. Putins entire legacy wiped out from sanctions in 60 days as far as the economy goes.

Foreigners who control EIGHTY PERCENT of Russia's stock markets entire float, still can't sell their assets. If the sanctions aren't affecting Russia then do tell me why in the fuck do they have their stock market closed to foreign investors still? Their economy will crash as soon as those investors are allowed to dump, and dump they will. The Ruble will go to where its supposed to actually be at as well, hence why Poots refuses to have a real stock market trading.


Russia already lost nearly 100,000 jobs due to sanctions (ukrinform.net)

"Total unemployment awaits the Russians. As a result of Russia's aggression against Ukraine and sanctions imposed by our Western partners, the Russians have already lost about 100,000 jobs. And this is just the beginning," the statement said.

Read also: Russia becomes world’s most-sanctioned country over past 70 years
According to the officials, 62,000 Russians were employed by McDonald's, 20,000 by PepsiCo, 15,000 by IKEA, 9,000 by Inditex, 4,500 by KPMG, 3,700 by PWC, 3,500 by H&M, 3,500 by LVMH, 2,200 by L'Oreal, and 2,000 by Starbucks.

At least 120,000 more Russians lose their jobs after the 10 major Western companies pull out of the Russian market, according to the CCD.

In total, as of March 11, more than 330 foreign companies said they were suspending operations in Russia or leaving the market in full or partially.

Now lets talk about parts for essential assets such as airplanes, computers, hardware for factories, etc. Every major company now refuses to supply Russia with any of these parts, including China. So how is Russia going to have workable airplanes in 6 months? How are factory lines going to continue to run when replacement parts are nowhere to be found? What will happen once those factories shut down when they can no longer produce? What do you think this all means?

Russia says China refuses to supply aircraft parts after sanctions | Reuters

And you have the gall to say the sanctions aren't really affecting Russia. LMAO im fucking dead, thats the dumbest shit I have heard in a long time, congratulations.

Let's pretend raising interest rates and inflation is just a thing in Russia because of the sanctions:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61324482
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-61303238
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57764601

"US makes biggest interest rate rise in 22 years. With US inflation at a 40-year high, further hikes are expected."
"Australia election: Interest rates rise for first time in decade. The move is designed to combat rising inflation, which is at a 21-year high."
"UK: Interest rates have been raised and are now at their highest level since over 13 years."
"UK inflation is rising at 7%, its fastest rate for 30 years, and could go even higher."
"Prices are going up quickly worldwide, as Covid restrictions ease and consumers spend more."

Also 120,000 lost jobs in a population of 141 million is a pretty small percentage. The percentage of unemployment in Russia is still relatively stable.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/277043/monthly-unemployment-rate-in-russia/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/22/russia-war-economy-sanctions-ruble/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...0-jobs-at-risk-on-foreign-exodus-tass-reports

They are speaking about an unemployment rate of about 4.1% in March which could up to about 7% or higher by mid-2022. So sure the unemployment rate is higher than in the last few years in Russia but even countries such as France, Sweden, Finland, Italy, Spain, etc. have higher unemployment rates than what Russia is facing or expected to face in the coming months.

Also:

"Despite predictions of doom for the heavily sanctioned Russian economy, nearly two months into Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, his country’s oil exports to Europe and nations such as India and Turkey have actually risen, and its financial sector is so far avoiding a serious liquidity crisis."

"Sanctions may work in the long run, experts say, but for now many of the same countries that are sanctioning Russia are still seriously undercutting their efforts by buying energy from it—in some cases in even larger amounts during April than in March."

So it's important to put things into context. Considering all the sanctions and the fact they are at war and in a situation of blockade by other countries it's really not as terrible as people thought it would be.

 

[Tayski]

Meh nothing will change except that political situation will be tense for next 12 months

I wonder if anything changes in military, hope tactics wont be different since nato has holes in its training

Nothing will change unless Russia starts bombing Finland or even sending troops there

Putin is getting desperate so fuck knows what crazy decision he could be making about Finland.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-nato-is-definitely-threat-russia-2022-05-12/

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...joining-NATO-is-definitely-a-threat-to-Russia

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ent-if-nato-admits-sweden-finland-2022-04-14/

 

[SanchoMF]

Meh nothing will change except that political situation will be tense for next 12 months

I wonder if anything changes in military, hope tactics wont be different since nato has holes in its training

Oh nothing will change yet, practically speaking, but the atmosphere is gonna be spicy. I have the coffee table talk cut out for sure.
With nato we might get a new AR, align some more gear, JFOs and shit.. nato forces come to Finland to train for a reason but there’s pretty clear benefit for us as well.

 

[SandisLL]

Nothing will change unless Russia starts bombing Finland or even sending troops there

Putin is getting desperate so fuck knows what crazy decision he could be making about Finland.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-nato-is-definitely-threat-russia-2022-05-12/

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...joining-NATO-is-definitely-a-threat-to-Russia

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ent-if-nato-admits-sweden-finland-2022-04-14/

If you think that we should suck Medvedev dick and fear...
Sorry....you don't know Russia.
Most likely also Gazprom gas prices chart too...
Before war.

We will not fold, for you it is hard to understand.
Maybe relocate to France, will be safer. France does have nukes, you will be in safety.

Don't care about us and don't instruct us to fear....
You are free to fear....

 

[PEB]

Putin man of the people yacht over 450 feet and over 1/2 billion dollars and people talk about US politicians lol that is cute.

 

[SandisLL]

If about interest rates as more or less normal usually is considered 0,5-5% key base interest rate from Central Bank emmiting currency.

Inflation, of course and Russia too does have inflation.
Okey, they have cheap fuel for cars mainly cos tax difference ....therefore does have s*** infrastructure etc if you aren't in Moscow or St Pete.
Doesn't have benefits and salaries like in Sweden.
Maybe inflation for europe will be good: lesser free money to buy crap produced in China etc.
I don't see here something bad.
I for example have 3 things made mainly from steel.
One is made in USSR in 1960 ies.
Another in Switzerland in 1977 th.
Third in China in 2019 th.
Guess what stuff I will replace today? Cos it is too much for 3 years old tool from ....steel alloy and a bit bronze...

 

[Videer]

Last I read the Russians were planning on destroying most of the Ukrainian rail system.

I ask again, with what? Oh wait.

 

[Videer]

Mini bomblet (from actual purpose built UAV!) > Russian ammo dump.



Just for @idrankyourbeer



got a reloading vehicle for it as well

 

[SandisLL]

The Russian military shot two civilians in the back and it was caught on camera. Before the execution, the occupiers searched the Ukrainians and made sure that they were unarmed citizens. This happened on March 16 in the Kyiv region. : ukraina (reddit.com)

 

[Cole train]

I ask again, with what? Oh wait.

Their long distance recon squads are trained to do stuff like that.

Now if situation on ground is so that they can be used is another thing( not to mention it will take time using people)

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm just curious as to how those guns made it to the East from the Polish border in the West. Roughly 800 miles.
Last I read the Russians were planning on destroying most of the Ukrainian rail system.

Russia cannot successfully interdict Ukrainian supply routes 100km over their border why would they be able to manage than across the entire country?

 

[Tayski]

If you think that we should suck Medvedev dick and fear...
Sorry....you don't know Russia.
Most likely also Gazprom gas prices chart too...
Before war.

We will not fold, for you it is hard to understand.
Maybe relocate to France, will be safer. France does have nukes, you will be in safety.

Don't care about us and don't instruct us to fear....
You are free to fear....

I'm not in fear, I don't think Russia can afford 2 conflicts at once in Ukraine and in the Nordics, however they could still make some desperate moves on Finland in the coming weeks / months.

We've seen that when they throw threats they tend to stick to it, just like with the invasion of Ukraine.

But I think it would be Finland hit before Sweden though.

Let's see if they are crazy enough to attempt such a move.

 

[Cole train]

I'm not in fear, I don't think Russia can afford 2 conflicts at once in Ukraine and in the Nordics, however they could still make some desperate moves on Finland in the coming weeks / months.

We've seen that when they throw threats they tend to stick to it, just like with the invasion of Ukraine.

But I think it would be Finland hit before Sweden though.

Let's see if they are crazy enough to attempt such a move.

Most likely is small border conflict to freeze nato application

Like lets denazify cole trains village near border because it has too many skinheads or some shit

 

[PEB]

Mini bomblet (from actual purpose built UAV!) > Russian ammo dump.



Just for @idrankyourbeer



got a reloading vehicle for it as well

@idrankyourbeer need to look at this tractor action time for a dance meme!

 

[Strychnine]

It’s all part of the plan, you don’t think Russia could crush Ukraine if they really wanted to? You’re a fool!

-Russian Bots circa Feb/March 2022 who have now dissipated as the checks stopped coming in the mail.

No one is using Rubles anyway.

 

[Strychnine]

The Russian military shot two civilians in the back and it was caught on camera. Before the execution, the occupiers searched the Ukrainians and made sure that they were unarmed citizens. This happened on March 16 in the Kyiv region. : ukraina (reddit.com)

Yes, I saw that on CNN. They asked those old men for cigarettes, walked away, turned and shot them in the back. Then the shooters went and looted their office. One of the old men survived, made it to the guard shack, called for help, and he didn't make it. He lost too much blood.

 

[SandisLL]

That's awful.
Btw it is worse than high or medium level mobs gang in 1990 ies...

 

[SandisLL]

Most likely is small border conflict to freeze nato application

Like lets denazify cole trains village near border because it has too many skinheads or some shit

Ofc NATO and EU does have some sissy countries....sadly.
Also pro Kremlin oriented.

While border " conflict " might have more painful outcome for Russia than all these " sanctions " they get cos Ukraine.
In Finland is too much invested and it will be good weapons sales customer + it is good place for western and asian businesses.... It is eurozone country with EUR as currency.

Probably had get now real sanctions: 100% closed borders, most likely some countries will station ' peacekeaping troops ' without months long UN style crying and even long talks with EU or....even....yeah....even with NATO...

It isn't Ukraine and no one will listen what Germany, Austria and Hungary will dream about their influence level.

 

[D3THRONED]

seems russia is only good at killing civilians and raping women. pathetic excuse of a gas station.