Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[San Marino]

Interview he confirms harden US soldiers aiding Ukraine in the war "Navy Seals?"

Not a chance. Maybe some former seals. Or we may have some advisors way back from the front lines helping to advise and train the Ukrainian military. The US absolutely is not sending soldiers to fight.

These are all retired veterans from different countries. The guy in the video has an accent - not American.
Amazing how people here are marveled by these interviews and explanations of combat. @PEB being one of them. There is nothing new here mate. Ground combat is hell. Hundreds of videos on YouTube of US soldiers and Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan going through the same thing.

 

[jimbob27]

The Afghan surrender is a bit of a wake up call for our brass. We trained them to fight like us but they don’t have the resources to fight like that. They also are not as professional and therefore as adaptable as our military is. In the future, they need to do a better job judging the limits of the country we are training and what fits them best.

We left them well armed but all of that equipment takes a lot of expertise and a lot of resources to maintain. They simply didn’t have that support. That is because we funded it and we ran logistics for them. We suddenly pulled out and they of course were completely incapable of maintaining a military like that.

The kindest way I can phrase this, is that we attempted to train them, but there was a high percentage of non-responders.

 

[San Marino]

A number of seals joined South Korean military members in Ukraine for to support Ukraine.

Retired SEALs buddy!
Same for retired US Special Forces, British SAS, and French Foreign Legion.
There are no active US military personnel in Ukraine.

 

[San Marino]

Dude, there are no active duty Americans in combat with Russia. A tweet from a South Korean guy isn’t proof to the contrary. I’m honestly not sure why you shared that tweet. It doesn’t even mention Americans.

@PEB is secretly in love with US Navy SEALs. Enamored by combat footage. Usually 'washouts' from a country's military.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

please don't be fake news! please don't be fake news!

Ukrainian farmer makes off with entire Russian Victory Day Parade

Chin up, at least the tanks are moving.

MOSCOW — In the latest of a string of high-profile humiliations for the Russian military, a Ukrainian farmer was able to connect every single military vehicle participating in the country’s venerable Victory Day parade to his tractor and drag them back to Ukraine.

Petro Bonderenko, 53, a wheat and barley farmer from the village of Grushevka, appeared shortly after the parade began at 10 a.m., and somehow tied a chain that linked the approximately 200 military vehicles participating in this year’s event to his 210 horsepower John Deere tractor. Within 30 minutes, a confused silence had settled on Red Square, which was then completely devoid of any military armor or weapons.

“How did he even get there?” asked a visibly flummoxed Gen. Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the Russian General Staff. “I was standing there in the reviewing stand saluting and suddenly saw some grizzled civilian in a crappy little tractor was in front of the procession, waving at me and President Putin.”

The “battlefield acquisition” became obvious to most when Bondarenko’s tractor made a sharp U-turn in front of Red Square, pulling the entire parade along behind him.

Sources indicate that although Putin was upset at the humiliating spectacle and initially demanded to know what was happening, his senior intelligence officials assured him that the parade was proceeding according to plan. Sufficiently reassured, Putin saluted Bonderenko as the farmer returned a one-finger salute.

David McSally, an analyst at Center for Strategic and International Studies, was not surprised that Bonderenko’s mission was successful.

“The Russians don’t trust their lower echelon troops, and so command and control is highly concentrated with senior leadership,” he explained. “So when no orders came down to stop this farmer, the troops in the vehicles just stayed along for the ride.”

“There’s also the likelihood that a lot of them were happy to go,” McSally added.

With the vehicle heist complete, talk has started about whether there will be consequences in the General Staff for letting Bonderenko get away.

“I don’t think President Putin is too mad,” Gerasimov said, sweating like he had just finished leveling an entire Ukrainian village by himself. “After all, he’s invited me to discuss this over tea later this afternoon.” He then fell to the ground, sobbing.

https://www.duffelblog.com/p/ukrain...-9B4OEFuwnh42TqnnetOgbcaFnXYDqP1JwInJAbfErTSE

 

[curryjunkie]

Can't we thread ban this retard already?

 

[MIKOM]

Oh there's definitely been unsavoury pow treatment by Ukrainian forces.

Now if there was only a way for Russian soldiers not to become prisoners of war and avoid the slim possibility of being mistreated.... some way like perhaps not invading another sovereign state

 

[curryjunkie]

Thats beside the point that I was making. I was being rhetorical, and you've haven't really answered why NATO is the one expanding despite Russia's "imperial ambitions" .

As a sidetrack, Russia could cross Belarus to invade Poland just like they did for Ukraine 2 months ago.

why do you think NATO is "expanding"?

 

[Cole train]

Anyone got info what percentage of population in ukraine served in army before invasion? My google comes up with nothing

 

[idrankyourbeer]

woah for a second i thought you guys were referring to me. i guess i'll just ride off on my tractor now.

had to go back to find the original post. yeah, somewhere out there a troll farm is missing its russian.

 

[San Marino]

Now if there was only a way for Russian soldiers not to become prisoners of war and avoid the slim possibility of being mistreated.... some way like perhaps not invading another sovereign state.

Did you figure that one out all by yourself or did your mother help you with it?

 

[Rod1]

The Afghan surrender is a bit of a wake up call for our brass. We trained them to fight like us but they don’t have the resources to fight like that.

The US would had been more than willing to provide resources for that.

They also are not as professional and therefore as adaptable as our military is. In the future, they need to do a better job judging the limits of the country we are training and what fits them best.

Its not that they weren't professional, they just didn't wanted to fight in the first place because there is no idea of an Afghan State, these people are tribal, their loyalty if for their tribes, not for an imaginary nation called Afghanistan.

We left them well armed but all of that equipment takes a lot of expertise and a lot of resources to maintain. They simply didn’t have that support. That is because we funded it and we ran logistics for them. We suddenly pulled out and they of course were completely incapable of maintaining a military like that.

The US did supported them and even if they did, they were not fighting a mighty nation equipped with modern weapons, they were fighting the Taliban riding toyotas.

The reason why the afghan army fell was because there was nobody willing to fight for the Afghan government.

The US isn't forcing Ukraine to fight, they fight because they believe in their nation right to exist.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Thats beside the point that I was making. I was being rhetorical, and you've haven't really answered why NATO is the one expanding despite Russia's "imperial ambitions" .

As a sidetrack, Russia could cross Belarus to invade Poland just like they did for Ukraine 2 months ago.

I mean yeah they COULD but Poland is a NATO ally and there are already some American combat brigades in Poland just hoping they try it. The Russian military would get absolutely smoked in a direct conflict with us.

 

[Yotsuya]

Way to impress us with your reading list.
Were there major complaints from former eastern-block countries prior to February 24th?
You left out the part on how all this started at the end of WWII with US and European support as the European map was redrawn.

I'm adding Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to the reading list. This is basically stuff that's thought in schools over here.

 

[jimbob27]

Anyone got info what percentage of population in ukraine served in army before invasion? My google comes up with nothing

It's basically everyone above a certain age. They had soviet conscription up until 2013 so it's just the real young guys who have no training.

 

[Blayt7hh]

The US would had been more than willing to provide resources for that.



Its not that they weren't professional, they just didn't wanted to fight in the first place because there is no idea of an Afghan State, these people are tribal, their loyalty if for their tribes, not for an imaginary nation called Afghanistan.



The US did supported them and even if they did, they were not fighting a mighty nation equipped with modern weapons, they were fighting the Taliban riding toyotas.

The reason why the afghan army fell was because there was nobody willing to fight for the Afghan government.

The US isn't forcing Ukraine to fight, they fight because they believe in their nation right to exist.

You’re also right but these things aren’t mutually exclusive. I was talking about one aspect that I believe we didn’t realize before we saw it play out.

Don’t be confused though. The Taliban did not do this on their own either. They’ve been getting foreign aid too.

 

[GhostZ06]

Anyone got info what percentage of population in ukraine served in army before invasion? My google comes up with nothing

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/UKR/ukraine/military-army-size

 

[Cole train]

It's basically everyone above a certain age. They had soviet conscription up until 2013 so it's just the real young guys who have no training.

Edit got answer

 

[kiley_sean]

Never mind. It's been replied to enough.

 

[San Marino]

I'm adding Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to the reading list. This is basically stuff that's thought in schools over here.

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was a non-aggression pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that enabled those two powers to partition Poland between them. This before Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back. What does this have to do with the current Russian/Ukraine conflict? Is the US planning to partition Ukraine with Russia? The US will certainly take over Ukrainian resources once this conflict is over. Zelensky is still thinking he is getting all this US help for free.