Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[Cole train]

I'd be amazed if they had no problems with the likes of Carolus Löfroos, although is he still in Sweden?

Theres literally nothing negative about him online when i type his name except that he was in azov as volunteer (if thats negative) he himself says he has no political ideology

I dont know what his social media looks like since i got none so that might be different

 

[SandisLL]

Eh? That's not about migration to Australia. It's about neonazi Australians going to the Ukraine to join Azov, "for the cause" and for the combat experience.
The problem is not them going to fight Russia, it's what they'll do with their combat experience and ideology when they return to Australia.
It's not a new phenomenon or limited to Australia either. I wonder what Finland thinks of returning citizens like Carolus Löfroos?

Ohh, don't worry about these guys.
We in europe have some jihad guys + white ....in prisons.
They doesn't talk, doesn't wear swastikas and russian nazi stuff.
They just are doing ba bahh and after this talk.
Appeared jihad guys might be also white lads.

 

[SandisLL]

But OK, I get that this wasn't mean't about immigration.

 

[SandisLL]

It is a very good design, cost is low compared to single use alternatives and with modern material design probably pretty light too, though dont know how much the newest version is.
But most importantly they have not stopped developing new ammunition for it. Sure it probably wont penetrate any modern tank from front like a TOW but at same weight you get a whole lot more shots.

Russian RPG gunner is taken out by a hobby drone seconds after he fires.

RPG-7 isn't precise but it's value in underrated.
1. very cheap, produced in xx countries.
2. might use different rounds.
Standard cummulative round isn't effective vs modern main battle tanks even without reactive armour if frontal position is hit ( glacis, front of turret ).
They still does have multiple rounds versions: 40mm anti perssonel rounds.
& tandem anti tank cummulative rounds.
Such stuff might or might not penterate f.e turret front of T-80 latest versions with reactive armor.
3. thermobaric rounds...

Ofc it isn't even 1980 ies stuff and still....

 

[Rod1]

It's probably more because true conservatives don't want to be involved in foreign wars.

The US isn't fighting a war with Russia.

Obviously the bigger country has the most potential to fuck up, but that isn't the point. The point is that the media is hiding the dirty stuff about Zelenskiy and Ukraine in order to win more support. Like in the video I posted, when something ugly about Zelenskiy or Ukraine shows up Western media is quick to hide it and pretend it isn't real.

"most potential to fuck up" man that defintively is an understatement.

And our own analyst have been telling the powers that be that this would happen for 10+ years.

Exactly, most of these idiots who said that if Ukraine was not allowed into NATO then Russia wouldn't invade were wrong.

You sound like the Palestians that fire rockets from residential areas and then claim that Israelis are targeting innocent people.

You sould like those Israelis that bulldoze a house in the West Bank and then bitch at the residents throwing rocks at them when they do.

Sure Putin wants to be Stalin, but it wasn't in a vaccum.

Of course, the context here was appeasement, the EU has done nothing but appeasement towards Russia and Russia mistook that for weakness.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia's outcome with Poland was cool: threat and accuse.
Get result= weapons supplies to Ukraine.
Bully with Gazprom?
Get result = answer " we don't need Gazprom ".
Bully about supplies?
Get result = next batches even more + increased spendings for military.

Maybe soon if Germany will attempt to continue bully with their paper economy Poland, they might tell EU to piss off.

 

[Rod1]

I'm not an advocate for Putin, nor am I defending his invasion of Ukraine. Its possible to condemn Putin's war and at the same time also to point out how the pro-war faction in the US have continually prodded Russia by expanding NATO among other things. Its also not wrong to state that if the war had never happened Zelensky would've probably been in trouble for corruption. If you want to go after someone for being a shill for Putin, look at Tucker Carlson, he's on Russian tv all the time.

Ukraine is not in NATO and NATO is a defensive alliance, so how is that prodding Russia?

In my previous post I was replying to someone else who was posturing about 'sovereign rights' as if the US respected that principle. During the cold war the USSR/Russia respected America's sphere of influence in Central/South America and hardly gave any substantial support to left wing movements there.
As to the issue of NATO expansion, there might not have been any formal treaties but there were verbal assurances made not to expand eastwards. In 2019 Ukraine's constitution was amended to say that NATO membership was a goal.

The USSR supported Cuba who in turn supported tons of guerrillas.

 

[Rod1]

Thats beside the point that I was making. I was being rhetorical, and you've haven't really answered why NATO is the one expanding despite Russia's "imperial ambitions" .

Because NATO is a defensive alliance and Russian neighbors are too small to defend against Russian aggression on their own.

As a sidetrack, Russia could cross Belarus to invade Poland just like they did for Ukraine 2 months ago.

And thus why the importance of NATO for these countries.

 

[Ruprecht]

Theres literally nothing negative about him online when i type his name except that he was in azov as volunteer (if thats negative) he himself says he has no political ideology

I dont know what his social media looks like since i got none so that might be different

Yeah, I know about his press interviews, but he wasn't always so quiet about his politics.
Even his choice of pseudonym is suggestive apparently?
A bunch of people scrubbed for his information when he was involved in a book project with Ian McCollum from the Forgotten Weapons youtube channel.

They cancelled the book.

 

[Videer]

RPG-7 isn't precise but it's value in underrated.
1. very cheap, produced in xx countries.
2. might use different rounds.
Standard cummulative round isn't effective vs modern main battle tanks even without reactive armour if frontal position is hit ( glacis, front of turret ).
They still does have multiple rounds versions: 40mm anti perssonel rounds.
& tandem anti tank cummulative rounds.
Such stuff might or might not penterate f.e turret front of T-80 latest versions with reactive armor.
3. thermobaric rounds...

Ofc it isn't even 1980 ies stuff and still....

True, I especially like how easily numerous rounds can be carried in a backpack.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia soon will get next lesson.
Looks that Putin is hoping that broken vegetable oils, wheat and corp supplies from Ukraine will help him a lot.

There are some solutions; dissovle EU as useless if Bruxells doesn't have brains at all.

Remove stupid econorms in EU.
Bully EU guys in cubicles to cancel very expensive mando biofuel addition to diesel: with this vegetable oil prices will be at least a bit pressed down.

First instiution who might dissolve is EU not NATO.
Especially cos their crying about peat and coal usage, oil shale usage and Gazprom lobby....

 

[SandisLL]

For example some EU countries are capable to produce more food than they are able to consume.
Yeah, with horses even today and without supplies from Russia.
Only profit hungry attitude had turned them to import cheap stuff for business purposes...
Add here dumb EU guys in cubicles, green parties ( gazprom buds ) and their stupididity + Germany...

 

[Ayin]

Thats beside the point that I was making. I was being rhetorical, and you've haven't really answered why NATO is the one expanding despite Russia's "imperial ambitions" .

As a sidetrack, Russia could cross Belarus to invade Poland just like they did for Ukraine 2 months ago.

So, your question is, why have independent countries close to Russia chosen independently to join a voluntary alliance that keeps them safe from Russian aggression, and then why has Russia been so slow and ineffective in re-establishing it’s imperialism?

Are you honestly struggling with this great riddle of our times?

 

[Strychnine]

Interesting how Russia hasn't figured that out, since they are playing with simple & older weapons...

A WWI Enfield will still fire...

If it's been properly maintained.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia is exporting seized food and wheat. Syria, Russia looks that are recipients.
As had been predicted.

 

[Rod1]

Interesting how Russia hasn't figured that out, since they are playing with simple & older weapons...

Well the Carl Gustaff has been getting a lot improvements, making the launcher lighter and improving ammo.

 

[Nada.]

Not because Putin says they are, but because they are. US Congress considers them white supremacists. They use Nazi symbolism, and aren't adverse to torture. In 2015, a spokesman admitted that 10 to 20% of Azoz are Nazis. So not every member of Azoz, only about 1/5th .

Regardless, the enemy of my enemy is my friend in this scenario. They keep Azoz around because they proved the most useful during the Donbas war, and defending the nation's sovereignty is more important than anything right now.

Every army has. Its ridiculous to think otherwise.

Nazy parties in Ukraine got 2% at last election. Germany had like 5%, France 25%...

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[GhostZ06]

Another T-90 destoryed


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1523924967049637890/pu/vid/1280x720/8to23wPT4eRK7Fws.mp4

 

[GhostZ06]