Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

[Da Speeit]

Hence, we are not sending troops or arms that could be used as offensive weapons (missiles, planes). Biden has said this like 800 times.

1,400 Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,600 Javelin anti-tank missiles, five Mi-17 helicopters, three patrol boats, four counter-artillery and counter-drone tracking radars, 2,000 light anti-armor weapons, 300 grenade launchers and ammunition; 600 shotguns and 600 machine guns; 5,000 rifles; 1,000 pistols; 25,000 sets of body armor; 25,000 helmets; nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar and artillery rounds; 70 Humvees and other vehicles, 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems and 100 Switchblade drones

So rifles, pistols, grenade launchers and drones aren't "offensive"

I mean, if Jen Psaki says so!


Imagine repeating that garbage and thinking you're smart lol

 

[MIKOM]

Even if you take the lowest estimate, Russia has still lost more troops in a month in Ukraine than the US did in 20 years in Afghanistan, which was my original point.

Awaiting copium comparison of Afghanistan fighters to sheep farmers and how it was easy for the US...

 

[Da Speeit]

Even if you take the lowest estimate, Russia has still lost more troops in a month in Ukraine than the US did in 20 years in Afghanistan, which was my original point.

How is that "things going well" for them?

Which is a number none of us can prove or have access to. Even "The lowest estimate" is just an estimate and everyone who has made that estimate has stipulated they have no clue.
So to your original point; yes, you may be missing something.

As for your "things going well", they have Kiev virtually surrounded, are waiting in place with minimal effort and Zelensky is more and more open to negotiations as this drags on. I don't think it's going that badly based on my perception of Putin's objectives (I've stated what I think they are since day one)

 

[luckyshot]

1,400 Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,600 Javelin anti-tank missiles, five Mi-17 helicopters, three patrol boats, four counter-artillery and counter-drone tracking radars, 2,000 light anti-armor weapons, 300 grenade launchers and ammunition; 600 shotguns and 600 machine guns; 5,000 rifles; 1,000 pistols; 25,000 sets of body armor; 25,000 helmets; nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar and artillery rounds; 70 Humvees and other vehicles, 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems and 100 Switchblade drones

So rifles, pistols, grenade launchers and drones aren't "offensive"

I mean, if Jen Psaki says so!


Imagine repeating that garbage and thinking you're smart lol

I don't think Ukraine is going to take the 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, and 300 grenade launchers we gave them and launch a fucking invasion of Russia, no.

That's what offensive weaponry would be: things Ukraine could use to actually threaten Russia.

 

[Da Speeit]

Awaiting copium comparison of Afghanistan fighters to sheep farmers and how it was easy for the US...

Do you have anything to offer other than this absolute drivel? If you disagree with me or others it's fine, but at least there are posters here who can bother to discuss or debate the topic, you just go around like-farming with stupid little reddit comments and it's so lame dude. At least @luckyshot is in the trenches talking about the issue even if he thinks i'm a kremlin bot retard, you're just sitting on the outskirts being annoying.

 

[oldshadow]

Ukraine is not part of the US, and everything in your analogy was your neighbor doing things in YOUR yard.

The more accurate analogy would be whether you would go over and get into a shoot out with him because of his dog shitting in someone else in the neighborhood's yard or snipping roses from their yard.

More like would you get involved if he was raping and killing your neighbors wife.

 

[SandisLL]

Dexter is living in Rusia.
Parasha Russia is paying his paychecks and he is happy.
The same Poland will not only keep their old Mig29 and current F16, they ordered F35 deal.
Tanks deal; under Obama and Trump US already agreed to sell Poland 250 last gen Abrams tanks.
Poles are more about money, so 2016- 2021 it did not had happened.
Now, when they see refugees, they accepted deal finalized.

 

[Da Speeit]

I don't think Ukraine is going to take the 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, and 300 grenade launchers we gave them and launch a fucking invasion of Russia, no.

That's what offensive weaponry would be: things Ukraine could actually use to threaten Russia.

Well if Russia is getting their ass kicked as badly as you'd say, i'd say that those are effective weapons, maybe even to an offensive extent.

I like how you ignored:
4,600 Javelin anti-tank missiles, five Mi-17 helicopters, three patrol boats, four counter-artillery and counter-drone tracking radars, 2,000 light anti-armor weapons, nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar and artillery rounds; 70 Humvees and other vehicles, 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems and 100 Switchblade drones

But if you just say "no no no, those are only defensive!" it's all irrelevant.
Sick Jen Psaki talking point bro, you're right in step with professional liars. "IT's all defensive Joe Biden said so!"

I think it's pretty clear at this point Joe Biden is a fucking retard who has no idea what he's talking about, so i'd chill on using his POV for any of this.

 

[Da Speeit]

Congratulations, my friend! May you and yours enjoy the new home, let's hope we don't witness anything too crazy in the coming months.

Thanks mate, these Putin checks are paying off!
Long term dream is some land in Colorado in the mountains, great place to hide out from this nonsense when China comes for us. Wolverines!!!!!

 

[LangfordBarrow]

What does that have to do with us? We're not Russia neighbors. And they're not attacking us.

If their is any kind of nuclear conflict its because we stuck our nose where it doesn't belong. Their is absolutely no upside to any of this. All this does is hurt us. Again, how is this in the best interest of the American people? My concern is with my family and the rest of the country, it is not with Ukraine. Who are our politicians working for again? Its insane that some people think a nuclear conflict is worth the risk. It makes absolutely zero sense.

What I'm saying is that some regime shouldn't arbitrarily decide what international laws it should obey because they can threaten nuclear conflict. Look at how many foreign posters are on this forum just wishing for the US to lose power. We have coalitions like NATO because global stability is in our best interest.

Allowing Russia and China to expand their territory, at the expense of their weaker neighbors, will only harm our interests in the future. At some point we need international support too, and we also want to combat nuclear proliferation, so defending nations like Ukraine will help to keep them on our side and not have them want to develop their own nuclear programs to have a deterrent or to play bully too.

 

[mkess101]

Thanks mate, these Putin checks are paying off!
Long term dream is some land in Colorado in the mountains, great place to hide out from this nonsense when China comes for us. Wolverines!!!!!

If China comes for us, who buys their cheap crap LOL? Africa and South America don't have enough $.

The Chinese might hate us, but they still need us.

 

[b34stmode]

Which is a number none of us can prove or have access to. Even "The lowest estimate" is just an estimate and everyone who has made that estimate has stipulated they have no clue.
So to your original point; yes, you may be missing something.

As for your "things going well", they have Kiev virtually surrounded, are waiting in place with minimal effort and Zelensky is more and more open to negotiations as this drags on. I don't think it's going that badly based on my perception of Putin's objectives (I've stated what I think they are since day one)

Lol. Do you enjoy posting fake news, nonstop? Kiev has been "surrounded" for two weeks now. The reality is Ukraine is starting to GAIN back land, still holds hostomel airport which is huge, still somehow holding on to Mauripol even after losing water and electricity for a week. "minimum effort" do you just randomly make things up for shits and giggles? Zelensky is more and more open for negotiations? Yeah? Do tell me what he is open for in negotiations.

 

[luckyshot]

4,600 Javelin anti-tank missiles, five Mi-17 helicopters, three patrol boats, four counter-artillery and counter-drone tracking radars, 2,000 light anti-armor weapons, nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar and artillery rounds; 70 Humvees and other vehicles, 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems and 100 Switchblade drones.

Unless those vehicles are heavily armed which I don't think they are, they are not offensive weapons. I mean, yeah, you could stick guns on anything, but once again, it's not like Ukraine is threatening to launch an invasion of Russia with the five helicopters we gave them.

The anti-tank, and counter-artillery weapons are obviously designed for defensive purposes. If you don't have your tanks in my country, how the hell am I supposed to shoot them with my anti-tank missles?

I think it's pretty clear at this point Joe Biden is a fucking retard who has no idea what he's talking about, so i'd chill on using his POV for any of this.

Biden predicts Russia will invade Ukraine

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...k-short-notice-invasion-fears-mount-rcna12691

 

[Source]

Even if you take the lowest estimate, Russia has still lost more troops in a month in Ukraine than the US did in 20 years in Afghanistan, which was my original point.

How is that "things going well" for them?

You knew you were wasting your time but you fell for it anyway. It was a valiant effort.

 

[Da Speeit]

Lol. Do you enjoy posting fake news, nonstop? Kiev has been "surrounded" for two weeks now. The reality is Ukraine is starting to GAIN back land, still holds hostomel airport which is huge, still somehow holding on to Mauripol even after losing water and electricity for a week. "minimum effort" do you just randomly make things up for shits and giggles? Zelensky is more and more open for negotiations? Yeah? Do tell me what he is open for in negotiations.

So did you need me to post that article or what?

 

[Source]

If China comes for us, who buys their cheap crap LOL? Africa and South America don't have enough $.

The Chinese might hate us, but they still need us.

Who are they going to steal their IP from?

 

[Da Speeit]

Unless those vehicles are heavily armed which I don't think they are, they are not offensive weapons. I mean, yeah, you could stick guns on anything, but once again, it's not like Ukraine is threatening to launch an invasion of Russia with the five helicopters we gave them.

The anti-tank, and counter-artillery weapons are obviously designed for defensive purposes. If you don't have your tanks in my country, how the hell am I supposed to shoot them with my anti-tank missles?


Biden predicts Russia will invade Ukraine

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...k-short-notice-invasion-fears-mount-rcna12691

"Minor Incursion" Biden has been spot on, then, I'm wrong.

They're all defensive weapons. I'm sorry.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Mike isn't coming to my yard because Mike knows he gets his shit pushed in if he does. But what he does in someone else's yard isn't my business.

This is why you aren't president of the homeowners association...

 

[Da Speeit]

You knew you were wasting your time but you fell for it anyway.

Stop crying dude. Seriously. It's embarrassing.

 

[Da Speeit]

This is why you aren't president of the homeowners association...

HOA's are literally socialism gimme mah rights DONT TREAD ON ME LIBS