Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

[The XL]

Oh you forgot a name there pal. There is another US President that was involved in the Afghanistan war. He was a Republican. Fat. Orange. Come on, you know the name.

Trump too. Cheney, all of them. All war criminals, all given free reign by our government who has apparently turned over a new leaf morally. We have no leg to stand on until they're all prosecuted for their crimes. Until then, this is nothing more than politics, it has nothing to do with morals and justice.

 

[curryjunkie]

i guess that might explain the naval bombardment.





Also.....how much i would not wanna fight in conflict where this is an issue.

bring back the carrier pidgeons!

 

[bad mojo]

You should see what a black hole does.

I've met a couple of those over the years. Say no more, buddeh.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

It is actually even lower than that. The only numbers they have officially given out are 498 KIA.

He's a more accurate body count @A Very Serious Cat

 

[Videer]

TBF the amount of information coming in is kind of hard to sort threw. But i think the UK mod confirmed they're losses recently are somewhere between 7500-9500

Yes. US estimates of ~7000 KIA last week and european estimates were even higher.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

The invasion was gonna happen. The US DoD called it weeks in advanced, they have proven to be a credible source of accurate intel. Same with the British MOD.


I dont get why its so hard to believe this. Russian MOD has proven over and over they're incompetence with handling there own damn invasion

It's just a military operation bro

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

hello ,Its day 1024 and russian focres surrounding kiev

 

[GhostZ06]

you never know though. Even a few months ago, Putin was boasting about their hypersonic technology.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-leads-world-hypersonic-missiles-tech-putin-says-2021-12-12/

Maybe China is buying some from them and helping fund this? Didn't China recently test a hypersonic missile which blew the mind of the US military brass?

https://www.ft.com/content/a127f6de-f7b1-459e-b7ae-c14ed6a9198c

Meanwhile, we are over here sucking our thumb asking our enemy, Iran, to give weapons made in Russia that they had purchased under sanctions from the US, to now give them to Ukraine, to attack Russians.







Lol, we and Israel won't even give them Iron Dome, but thankfully Guam is safe from eminent danger

there is a lot of questions about that missile. And im pretty sure they're data was leaked about theyre hypersonic weapons development program not to long ago

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

He's a more accurate body count @A Very Serious Cat

You missing the point again

 

[GhostZ06]

It's just a military operation bro

Sorry i meant a special peace keeping operation

 

[San Marino]

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[cottagecheesefan]

The USA keeps building enemies there.

The entire admin, especially the state department is a fucking joke. Remember how Harris was just there and looked like an idiot? Well yet another staffer of hers is resigning. Posted this in the meme thread as a tanget about a clip I posted, but it encapsulates thi,

Also, just as a quick side tangent, Harris had some bad clips come out of being in Poland and other countries last week and now her National Security advisor is resigning.



and she was was this advisor because of her extensive experience

McEldowney, a former ambassador to Bulgaria and onetime director of the State Department’s Foreign Service Institute, had advised both Harris and President Biden on a range of global issues — including the withdrawal from Afghanistan, negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

So she has helped with the Afghan withdrawal? Current negotiations with Iran when we are OKing them getting a nuke now? And Russia and this shit with Ukraine? Yea, great fucking experience. This regime is such a fucking joke, between the President, the VP and all their advisors.

They all think they are on an episode of VEEP, just like Zelensky was. That is why they love him. It is all a clown show of people milking our tax dollars.

 

[Captain Herb]

Out of likes. Although I don't think GW was the best President I do think he gets a bad rap. Having bad council is different than being the actual schemer.

I agree he was probably a dupe.

 

[curryjunkie]

If it was American soldiers they would have all been killed, just like they killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on.

so your argument is its fine because they are crap shots...

 

[Anewt]

That Putin had decided to invade Ukraine.

My point isn't that us intelligence and uk intelligence never tells thr truth...

My point is they're extremely selective and proven to use misinformation and lies on its own populations when they want to push a narrative they wish to promote.

So I don't trust them... at all.

Just like Russian information... ditto Ukraine..

Everyone involved has its reasons to tweak the numbers.

 

[Rational Poster]

They may be watching everything... but I'm still not going to believe us intelligence as a source..

They literally lie constantly.. and will always do so.

 

[GhostZ06]

heres an interesting video about turkey planning a new canal that would allow US warships into he black sea , pissing off russia big time.

Seems like a bad idea.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

The USA keeps building enemies there.

One big takeaway of all this is it has highlighted what I see as the west's failure to build a relationship with India. They would've been an obvious choice to help counter China but instead we keep pouring money into their enemy that hates us as well. Good job guys

 

[cottagecheesefan]

there is a lot of questions about that missile. And im pretty sure they're data was leaked about theyre hypersonic weapons development program not to long ago

this is pretty interesting and could indicate things both ways. Either Russia feels they have the upper hand and want to put an emphasis on it, that they have these missiles they have threatened with in the past, and with NATO not coming, it is a nail in the coffin and Zelensky needs to stop... which is why Putin rejected peace talks this past weekend to level Mariupol and have some shows of force like this.

Or, with NATO and other countries not coming to save the day, but Russia is also feeling the pressure at home and feels a few more big haymakers can seal the deal. But that could also make them blow their load, as a number have suggested is the case, where Russia cannot maintain and needs it to end ASAP.

Based on what I have seen, I think the prior, and this is them testing the international community waters, seeing the general response, and after achieving some better land positions are now going to drop the hammer harder and get what they want.

And this isn't being pro russian, I just think that now that Mariupol is being leveled, along with lack of Western Support, the Russians now have pretty open Eastern Ukraine to advance through and take even more strategic positions and further encircle various urban centers.

 

[Anewt]

Are you guys really that blinded,?

That's frightening