Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

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cottagecheesefan said:
Don't disagree, but someone said that video/reporting of it might not be accurate because there was no sonic boom. But there would only be the one sonic boom once reaching the initial sound barrier velocity, correct? It would not continually make sonic booms?
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No you break the sound barrier you don't hear the sound but it continues to happen behind you so you have a supersonic wake following you.

 
The XL said:
Unless the same leaders responsible for Iraq are going to be tried and executed for war crimes, then pointing out the hypocrisy of the West is absolutely valid.
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Oh, poor nation in Iraq, oppressed by bad evil West, supplied with weapons form USSR etc.
Beautiful, peacful country with suffering ppl from bad Westerners actions:
historical achievements: long term war with Iran, they were so nice and oppressed ppl. LOL.
big historical achievement was Kuwait occupation with unnoticed war cos Kuwait does have a lot of oil.
Genocide in the same Iraq.
Nothing had happened, Iraq always were saints, yeah, killers nation supplied by USSR with weapons since 1960 th till 1992 th. Cool nation, sufferers and peaceful dudes in Iraq.
 
The XL said:
Unless the same leaders responsible for Iraq are going to be tried and executed for war crimes, then pointing out the hypocrisy of the West is absolutely valid. When are George Bush, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, etc going on trial again?
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Oh you forgot a name there pal. There is another US President that was involved in the Afghanistan war. He was a Republican. Fat. Orange. Come on, you know the name.
 
Russia thinks Biden, Boris, and Macron will come beg them to come back, not the other way around

 
bad mojo said:
I remember reading about it, it was something around 140 million apiece when the US army considered it. I get that the development of such a weapon is costly, but how the hell is every launch so expensive is beyond me. Someone is making a huge profit or I'm just being stupid, or both.
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It's a little of everything price for the technology in such a limited run and the R&D costs as well as price margins. The the reason why Elon Musk decided to make the Starship out of stainless steel vs carbon fiber or some other more complex material is because of keeping costs down. They even recently did a complete redesign of the fuel tank because it had a cone head and decided to make it flathead in doing so they cut the number of stainless steel sheets used by more then half bringing the costs down even more. The Starship costs per flight currently around 500 to 1 billion with the eventual goal of getting it down to 20 million to 2 million in a perfect world per flight. This is a rocket with a 120 ton payload capacity for best case 2 million a launch crazy.
VS 4 billion per launch for the SLS lol.
"NASA has been working on the Space Launch System (SLS) since it retired the Space Shuttle in 2011. The agency initially hoped to have the mega-rocket flying by 2016, but that proved to be a wildly optimistic estimate. As the delays piled up, so has the cost. In a recent House Science Committee hearing, NASA Inspector General Paul Martin revealed the true cost of an SLS launch, and it’s much higher than the $2 billion target. It’s more like $4.1 billion, but Martin turned things around on the Representatives, reminding them it was Congress that dictated the terms of NASA’s SLS contracts. "
 
A Very Serious Cat said:
This is all based on an article on a Russian tabloid site where they said the official numbers were the 10k or so, nothing about them being leaked or anything. The paper has since stated they were hacked and the numbers were bullshit. It could all be an inadvertent leak but that just doesn't seem like the most likely answer. Especially since there's already been heaps of stories about Russian sites being hacked already.
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I'll add to this people claim the Russian MoD report that the newspaper used as a source doesn't contain any casualty figures. I can speak Russian so just taking people's word on this fwiw
 
PEB said:
No you break the sound barrier you don't hear the sound but it continues to happen behind you so you have a supersonic wake following you.

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agreed. And since a missile is so small, that wave/wake could be seen with the missile basically glowing, which is the energy of that wave? I think that video 100% looks like a hypersonic missile.

it is just something like the concord is much bigger
 
tibba said:
They may be watching everything... but I'm still not going to believe us intelligence as a source..

They literally lie constantly.. and will always do so.
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Yeah and Russia the beacon of truth lol.
 
Cole train said:
Literally heaviest resistance has been in harkiv

Which is a russian speaking city,language doesnt matter here
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By the army, no?
Regular Ukrainan citizens probably don't want to die for their government... When the army is routed, I don't think the population will rise up in arms due to the 'invaders' being the same ethnicity and religion as them. Life will go on under the new puppet regime.
 
PEB said:
It's a little of everything price for the technology in such a limited run and the R&D costs as well as price margins. The the reason why Elon Musk decided to make the Starship out of stainless steel vs carbon fiber or some other more complex material is because of keeping costs down. They even recently did a complete redesign of the fuel tank because it had a cone head and decided to make it flathead in doing so they cut the number of stainless steel sheets used by more then half bringing the costs down even more. The Starship costs per flight currently around 500 to 1 billion with the eventual goal of getting it down to 20 million to 2 million in a perfect world per flight. This is a rocket with a 120 ton payload capacity for best case 2 million a launch crazy.
VS 4 billion per launch for the SLS lol.
"NASA has been working on the Space Launch System (SLS) since it retired the Space Shuttle in 2011. The agency initially hoped to have the mega-rocket flying by 2016, but that proved to be a wildly optimistic estimate. As the delays piled up, so has the cost. In a recent House Science Committee hearing, NASA Inspector General Paul Martin revealed the true cost of an SLS launch, and it’s much higher than the $2 billion target. It’s more like $4.1 billion, but Martin turned things around on the Representatives, reminding them it was Congress that dictated the terms of NASA’s SLS contracts. "
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Thanks, didn't know about it. Crazy amounts of money. Too late for me to become a rocket scientist, damn it.
 
tibba said:
They may be watching everything... but I'm still not going to believe us intelligence as a source..

They literally lie constantly.. and will always do so.
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But can we agree that things turned out basically the way Biden stated despite Putin's denials?
 
PEB said:
Yeah and Russia the beacon of truth lol.
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No... they lie as well...

You guys really got to move on from this idea that criticism of Western media/ governments means people believe Russian media and government. .... it's absurdly childish and so far from the mark its ridiculous.

Plus you continue to pump out literal debunked propaganda.
 
pinger said:
Reliable and credible? Like Russia? Fucking loller skates
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They're so credible, the British government is openly accusing Russia of falsifying phone calls from Ukrainian members of government LOLOLOLOLOL

In fact, Sajid Javid called Putin a compulsive liar over the Salisbury poisoning among other things.

I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

Russia is full of utter shit.
 
tibba said:
They may be watching everything... but I'm still not going to believe us intelligence as a source..

They literally lie constantly.. and will always do so.
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You're joking right? The DoD is more credible then the Russian MOD.

The russian mod that was just purged by Sexual putin
 
bad mojo said:
I remember reading about it, it was something around 140 million apiece when the US army considered it. I get that the development of such a weapon is costly, but how the hell is every launch so expensive is beyond me. Someone is making a huge profit or I'm just being stupid, or both.
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The laws of physics are a costly son of a bitch.
 
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