Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

[mkess101]

Why are you so insecure, bringing the Ukrainian-claimed losses to the table? Btw, why Russian personnel death toll stopped on 12k in Ukrainian media for several days already?

It's probably a lot less. But still more than NATO/the US has lost in three decades of conflicts.

And nobody should be giddy about that either. A lot of them are guys who did not want to be there. Teenagers or early 20's kids with mothers and fathers now grieving. But kids who likely had little choice. More fodder for Vlad's war to go alongside the Ukrainians dying.

 

[grimballer]

Tell us again how the Srebrenica massacre didn't happen and Russia is doing nothing wrong.

nobody said that and it has nothing to do with this thread, but considering you're suffering from schizophrenia...

 

[Karelinator]

UN is an useless, outdated organisation. Just like NATO .

Why attack people for trying to join it then?

 

[Phlog]

Spare me your lectures about moral in politics, it’s non-existent.
Guy initially asked about existence of Tochka-Us Tactical missiles in RAF, then for some reason turned it into discussion about Russian politics in Donbass. So, I answered him as I saw fit.
Do I need to coordinate my opinion with you? Or you are in the “my way or highway” group?

I did not mention morals in politics. I said good or bad is the same as in ones interests or not.

So you're not going to answer my question and instead your going to deflect with a nonsense and irrelevant question?

Here's what I wrote again, for you to craft a response that is logically consistent:

"Any of us can judge whatever we like, and say so. Where we live or what that country has done is irrelevant. I'm Irish, Welsh, German, grew up on a boat, have lived in a couple of countries since and live now in England. Tell me, who's history do I or you have to reference when I give an opinion on Russian foreign policy?"

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

That’s I’m fine but why is the US giving him the opportunity to publicly shame them into a position of war. I am not upset he is trying, I am upset that US is giving him the stage. It’s puts them in a bad position. How can they openly say NO once he is on Tv begging.

What makes you think they want to say no? These are politicians who only care about their self interests. They really don't care if you or I, or our kids go fight and die for their benefit. They will make money from war, and that's all they really care about. This is all grandstanding to get public support imo.

 

[blaseblah]

UN is an useless, outdated organisation. Just like NATO .

And yet Putin is terrified enough to ruin his reputation on the world stage and cripple the Russian economy.

 

[Corona]

Lmao at this. You must denounce your dictator and therefore put yourself and family in danger if you want to play Wimbledon.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/d...nnis-player-wimbledon-ban-ukraine-war-1517872

 

[grimballer]

Why attack people for trying to join it then?

they dont want us missiles/troops on their border?

whats the point of nato and nato expansion again?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Lmao at this. You must denounce your dictator and therefore put yourself and family in danger if you want to play Wimbledon.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/d...nnis-player-wimbledon-ban-ukraine-war-1517872

Federer about to get an unassailable lead in his grand slam records by being the only neutral country player.

 

[Rholk]

they dont want us missiles/troops on their border?

whats the point of nato and nato expansion again?

Countries try to join nato to deter Russian agression

 

[grimballer]

Lmao at this. You must denounce your dictator and therefore put yourself and family in danger if you want to play Wimbledon.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/d...nnis-player-wimbledon-ban-ukraine-war-1517872

so not only are they pro censorship, they also force people to parrot their political talking points?

freedom and western liberal democracy at full display it seems...

 

[Dexter]

I couldn’t sleep well at nights because I knew that those scary NATO fascists from nearby Baltics are lurking somewhere near our borders. Now, thanks to Uncle Vlad peace-keeping efforts, I feel much-much better.

 

[grimballer]

Countries try to join nato to deter Russian agression

what aggression?


since the fall of soviet union nato is/was the aggressor.

so the only reason to join nato is to be the aggressor

 

[Err]

they dont want us missiles/troops on their border?

whats the point of nato and nato expansion again?

NATO troops have been in Ukraine for years, as well as Latvia. Missiles also don’t need to be in Ukraine to target Russia.

 

[Dexter]

I did not mention morals in politics. I said good or bad is the same as in ones interests or not.

So you're not going to answer my question and instead your going to deflect with a nonsense and irrelevant question?

Here's what I wrote again, for you to craft a response that is logically consistent:

"Any of us can judge whatever we like, and say so. Where we live or what that country has done is irrelevant. I'm Irish, Welsh, German, grew up on a boat, have lived in a couple of countries since and live now in England. Tell me, who's history do I or you have to reference when I give an opinion on Russian foreign policy?"

Write it again, please, I can’t follow your logic and/or the reason of your involvement into my discussion with the other poster here. Are you a meddler, a collective voice of morality or are you thinking he can’t answer to me by himself?

 

[Zinger]

I couldn’t sleep well at nights because I knew that those scary NATO fascists from nearby Baltics are lurking somewhere near our borders.

 

[Queen B]

Russia banned Trudeau wtf

 

[GoldenWolf87]

 

[lsa]

they dont want us missiles/troops on their border?

whats the point of nato and nato expansion again?

So the Baltic and Norway are not on their border?
Or it was only Ukraine that was a problem?

 

[grimballer]

NATO troops have been in Ukraine for years, as well as Latvia. Missiles also don’t need to be in Ukraine to target Russia.

theres a difference between nato troops holding joint military exercises with ukrainian troops from time to time and having nato troops full time on your border.

at this point the only reason for nato expansion is to provoke russia.