International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

Pump in open text had told that immigrants investing 5 m $ will get investors visa and later in plain and simple text told and had posted that immigrants investing 1 m $ will get some sort of visa. It is POTUS elected, let it be happen and for his voters to taste.

 

[Tokoloko]

When they lie you how they got great job and future for u in Russia if u emigrate and when u come there is only enlistment documents waiting for you.

 

[Strychnine]

Sweden plants its stake.

 

[Rholk]

That's one way to blow your soviet era inheritance

 

[Cid]

 

[SandisLL]

Huelensky told that soon maybe next round talks with american chinesse russian colonium in so called ukraine between their bottlemates in russia and U.S maybe will start.
Ukrainians best chance is to hope elect officials who will allow to relocate from colonium with bright future for elite and other plebs will even dream to relocate to Zimbabwe.
Colonium with ppl to live in debts and poverty and dreams. 0 future chances for casuals unless to leave 404 .... will be worse than they ever had tasted during last 50 years. 0 hope.

 

[Jacket time]

 

[Jacket time]

 

[SandisLL]

That's one way to blow your soviet era inheritance

Putin especially loves T 62 tanks. He told that these were used by USSR in Afganistan. Maybe therefore he ordered to use these in ukraine...

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

This is like something out of the Russian and Chinese wish list...some Russian speakers even commented in the Reddit thread that the verbiage used is almost like something translated from Russian because it is not something regularly said in English but would make more sense when translated from Russian.

"Russian language speaker here.

Concrete interests = Конкретные интересы - is very much russian-coded sort of speech. Can hardly imagine it being used in other languages as much.

This document was most likely translated badly (literally) from russian. Pathetic.

Upd: If it wasn't Russian document they would have used "Specific (or particular) interests of Americans" instead."

I have to concur with this quoted post ....I likewise have not heard these two words used like this...in Russian however it is super common...

If some of our geopolitical military policies are coming out of Kremlin this is very alarming. On the surface it seems perfectly reasonable but the underlying issues point to a much darker picture or scenarios.

"
www.bbc.com
Pentagon to offer 'more limited' support to US allies
Claire Keenan
4 - 5 minutes

Pentagon to offer 'more limited' support to US allies in defence strategy shift

Reuters A drone image of the Pentagon in Washington DC.Reuters

Homeland security is the top priority in the Pentagon's new National Defense Strategy

The US will offer "more limited" support to allies, according to the Pentagon's new National Defense Strategy.

In a significant shift to its security priorities, the US Department of Defense now considers security of the US homeland and Western Hemisphere - not China - as its primary concern.

Previous versions of the strategy - published every four years - named the threat posed by China as the top defence priority. Relations with China will now be approached through "strength, not confrontation", the report says.

The defence strategy reinforces recent calls from President Donald Trump, including for greater "burden-sharing" from allies in countering threats posed by Russia and North Korea.

The new 34-page report follows last year's publication of the US National Security Strategy, which said Europe faced civilisational collapse and did not cast Russia as a threat to the US. At the time, Moscow said the document was "largely consistent" with its vision.

By comparison, in 2018, the Pentagon described "revisionist powers", such as China and Russia, as the "central challenge" to US security.

The new strategy calls on American allies to step up, saying partners have been "content" to let Washington subsidise their defence, although it denies the shift signals a US move towards "isolationism".

"To the contrary, it means a focused and genuinely strategic approach to the threats our nation faces," it says.

Washington has long neglected the "concrete interests" of Americans, the report says, adding the US does not want to conflate American interests "with those of the rest of the world – that a threat to a person halfway around the world is the same as to an American."

Instead, it says allies, especially Europe, "will take the lead against threats that are less severe for us but more so for them".

Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine nearly four years ago, is described as a "persistent but manageable threat to NATO's eastern members".

Unlike in previous versions of the strategy, Taiwan, the self-governing island claimed by China, is not mentioned. However, the document does write that the US aims to "prevent anyone, including China, from being able to dominate us or our allies".

Late last year, the US announced a vast arms sale to Taiwan worth $11bn (£8.2bn), leading China to hold military drills around the island in response.

The strategy also outlines a "more limited" role for US deterrence of North Korea. South Korea is "capable of taking primary responsibility" for the task, it adds.

In the 12 months since Trump began his second term as president, the US has seized Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, carried out strikes against alleged drug boats in the eastern Pacific and Caribbean, and more recently, applied pressure on US allies to acquire Greenland.

The strategy reiterates that the Pentagon "will guarantee US military and commercial access to key terrain, especially the Panama Canal, Gulf of America, and Greenland".

The document says the Trump administration's approach will be "fundamentally different from the grandiose strategies of the past post–Cold War administrations".

It adds: "Out with utopian idealism; in with hardnosed realism."

At the World Economic Forum earlier this week, Trump claimed the US had "never gotten anything" from Nato and "we've never asked for anything".

He further criticised the organisation, incorrectly claiming "the United States was paying for virtually 100% of Nato".

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said the old world order is "not coming back" and urged fellow middle powers - like South Korea, Canada and Australia - to come together.

"Middle powers must act together because if we're not at the table, we're on the menu," Carney said at the Davos meeting.

That came as French President Emmanuel Macron also warned of a "shift towards a world without rules"."

Pentagon to offer 'more limited' support to US allies

The US will also offer “more limited” support to US allies, according to a new national defence strategy document.

www.bbc.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/QKfrj8dPut

 

[Bagatur]

This is like something out of the Russian and Chinese wish list...some Russian speakers even commented in the Reddit thread that the verbiage used is almost like something translated from Russian because it is not something regularly said in English but would make more sense when translated from Russian.

"Russian language speaker here.

Concrete interests = Конкретные интересы - is very much russian-coded sort of speech. Can hardly imagine it being used in other languages as much.

This document was most likely translated badly (literally) from russian. Pathetic.

Upd: If it wasn't Russian document they would have used "Specific (or particular) interests of Americans" instead."

I have to concur with this quoted post ....I likewise have not heard these two words used like this...in Russian however it is super common...

If some of our geopolitical military policies are coming out of Kremlin this is very alarming. On the surface it seems perfectly reasonable but the underlying issues point to a much darker picture or scenarios.

Pentagon to offer 'more limited' support to US allies

The US will also offer “more limited” support to US allies, according to a new national defence strategy document.

www.bbc.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/QKfrj8dPut

Yeah, it's an established Russian language phrase. And even Google-translate translates it as specific interests. Concrete interests is something someone who thinks he knows English would say. Guess they dont have access to Google on Runet

 

[SandisLL]

This is like something out of the Russian and Chinese wish list...some Russian speakers even commented in the Reddit thread that the verbiage used is almost like something translated from Russian because it is not something regularly said in English but would make more sense when translated from Russian.

"Russian language speaker here.

Concrete interests = Конкретные интересы - is very much russian-coded sort of speech. Can hardly imagine it being used in other languages as much.

This document was most likely translated badly (literally) from russian. Pathetic.

Upd: If it wasn't Russian document they would have used "Specific (or particular) interests of Americans" instead."

I have to concur with this quoted post ....I likewise have not heard these two words used like this...in Russian however it is super common...

If some of our geopolitical military policies are coming out of Kremlin this is very alarming. On the surface it seems perfectly reasonable but the underlying issues point to a much darker picture or scenarios.

Pentagon to offer 'more limited' support to US allies

The US will also offer “more limited” support to US allies, according to a new national defence strategy document.

www.bbc.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/QKfrj8dPut

AI drived bad quality translation from russian to english.

It is worse quality than CAT commercial solutions had offered 9 years ago.

concrete is used in construction industry.

Also I don't think that these russians operating chatbots really does have decent HS education in Russia.

Average not lazy 18 y.o russian does knows better than these troll farms trolls what stuff in english means concrete.

I maybe should start to discuss about concrete marks and standards for them....

 

[SandisLL]

Yeah, it's an established Russian language phrase. And even Google-translate translates it as specific interests. Concrete interests is something someone who thinks he knows English would say. Guess they dont have access to Google on Runet

These aren't Lavrov and Putin.
Both these, despite senile and retarded does knows enlgish really well.
They are using translators and pauses before talking just in order to get more time to think what to tell.
Both actually are capable to speak english without any delays and does have huge vocabulary in english..till nuances....

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

Yeah, it's an established Russian language phrase. And even Google-translate translates it as specific interests. Concrete interests is something someone who thinks he knows English would say. Guess they dont have access to Google on Runet

AI drived bad quality translation from russian to english.

It is worse quality than CAT commercial solutions had offered 9 years ago.

concrete is used in construction industry.

Also I don't think that these russians operating chatbots really does have decent HS education in Russia.

Average not lazy 18 y.o russian does knows better than these troll farms trolls what stuff in english means concrete.

I maybe should start to discuss about concrete marks and standards for them....

I think they fell victim to an issue of false cognates. I have run into this issue while studying Spanish. Some words seem the same but have either completely different or much more nuanced(subject specific) translation in the target language.

This is the amusing part of hiring a bunch of incompetent loyalists. Yes they will kiss your butt and do what you say but they will be inherently mediocre or incompetent and commit errors like this or the 28 point peace plan that was likewise run through Google translate.

All I can say is thank goodness they are incompetent because if Trump had competent people working for him he would be truly dangerous.

 

[SandisLL]

Lavrov is very experienced but sometimes he fails if feels very comfortable.
Like in India where he openly admitted in clean text that he does in reality thinks that all Ukraine is Russia : " We never had invaded foreign countries "... short question after this.
" But Ukraine is Russia. ".
Lavrov get that he exposed his real opinion and turned theme to talks about oppressed russians and bad Kiev hunta regime etc and that russia might sell this and this with discounts.

 

[SandisLL]

Orban btw does thinks that Ukraine is Russia.
He was in relaxed and comfort mode, most likely a bit had tasted azeri alco production...
Outcome was that he told Aliev in public mode that Hungary does have land border with russia. In direct and plain text.
Since Hungary doesn't have land border with russia but does have with ukraine we might get real core of opinion he in reality does have : Ukraine = Russia.
Real opinion.

 

[SandisLL]

Unfortunately Ukraine does have 0 chances to provide realistic future chances for average ukrainan. Only debts, austerity measures and telemarathon brainwashing.
Low salaries and high taxes is future for average ppl with 0 chances if they will not relocate.

Ukraine de facto is Russo Chinesse U.S colonium indebted by xx different lenders.
Main de facto colonium owner is Trump who doesn't gave a f*** and isn't ready even to sell his colonium weapons normally.
While colonium is ruled by masochists and dreamers.

After Trump had confirmed that isn't willing to install peacekeeping troops even after peace deal and repeatedly had confirmed that U.S taxpayers should not spend cent on ( colonium ) ukr.

Ukr lawmakers after this announced tender outcome for one from lithium deposits with winner in Trump's close friend and bottlemate.

Better masochists and smiling slaves yanks can't dream to have.
Master is telling that he will not help and slaps in the face, slave is kissing legs with smile...

All world does see this reality.
Ukr does have 0 future. Casuals soon will start to dream even to relocate to Zimbabwe, more bright future chances, unfortunately.

 

[SandisLL]

Witkopf confirmed that negotiations groups didn't had reached agreement [ obiviously cos Russia had increased territorial claims since last PutinRump conversation and they are not the same like Putin told Trump].
Trump confirmed that he will continue sell weapons..

 

[SandisLL]

BTW Trump exaggregates his role and impact on europe ] of to talk about real one not talks for U.S voters [.

The same Reagan had stationed in Greenland more than 10x more specialists than are stationed now today and Denmark even didn't had counted nor number of troops nor technique stationed. Plus had defense budget more % of GDP than does have for 2025 th. Reagan had charisma to impact them more than Trump might dream about.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

This is why this POS Putin needs to be stopped. He can't win on the battlefield with huge advantages so he just kills woman and children and terrorizes civilians.