International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

BTW about europe, India is continuing to purchase russian crude oil and even increased purchases....

Also Modi does wants : to purchase Meteor missiles for his rafale export version airplanes and ....to adapt them to be usable with Su airplanes they does have...

About this realpolitik.
Real life.
 
BTW, OK, if europe will ignore yanks and trade with everyone as they want.

However to sell Modi Meteor missile is crazy insane idiotism.
It is better than AIM 120 D-3 latest iterations.
Considerably better.....

For example ukr will not get even AIM 120 D-3
Even for money.

Trump currently will not allow to sell India AIM 120 C-8, not alone C-7 or D-3 ...
Now....Modi might maybe get something even better than D-3 and Trump can't prevent this to happen.
& will see stupidity level.
• btw this also does means that they does have these Meteor enough, if even might offer to sell... India...

Will see how far it will go.
 
Additional beauty: IMF looks that is pressuring Ukraine to devalue grivna....
Bloomberg mentioned this but this is quite predictable.

IMF always historically had advised " clients " countries devaluation and austerity measures!
Ukr wants from them next 8 b $ loan so most likely will fold under pressure... sooner or later.

IMF is just one from xx lenders and these all will press ukr not lesser than russian army....with longer term outcomes btw.
 
Pressure on Ukraine by both west and east and Russia will fold Ukraine sooner or later.
West will pressure with devaluation and austerity measures and threats not issue next loans...these threats are very serious and if next loans will not be get, effect will be more than from one or two nukes....
Without joke.

Reducing weapons and ammunition supplies.

East pressure with support for Russia passive or active ...
Russia with threats and army.
 
Well isn't this interesting...

Ukraine cannot win its war with Russia and should negotiate peace terms with the Kremlin, according to Britain’s most senior army officer.

Field Marshal Lord Richards said Kyiv will not be able to drive Vladimir Putin’s soldiers out of Ukraine without the help of Nato forces – who won’t get involved on the ground.

Lord Richards, who was promoted to the UK military’s most senior “five-star” rank earlier this year and led Nato forces during their troop surge in Afghanistan, said Ukraine’s allies have failed Kyiv.

“What we have done in the case of Ukraine is encourage Ukraine to fight, but not given them the means to win,” the former chief of the defence staff told The Independent’s podcast World of Trouble.

Reflecting on Ukraine’s chances of success against Russia, he said: “My view is that they would not win.”

“Could not win, even with the right resources?” he was asked.

“No,” he replied.

Pressed further by The Independent, he was asked: “ Even with the right resources?”

“No, they haven’t got the manpower,” the former commando said.


The field marshal’s intervention came after Volodymyr Zelensky flew to Washington DC to meet Donald Trump to try to persuade him to give Ukraine Tomahawk cruise missiles.




So, that's the head of the UK army stating that there's no hope of a Ukrainian victory unless NATO wants to get directly involved and put boots on the ground in a full scale war. Which they're not going to do unless they're even dumber than I think they are. Yet all the usual cheerleaders in this thread are still insisting that Ukraine is winning.
 
Lets give a country that was too corrupt to join join NATO nuclear weapons, what could go wrong?
Too corrupt for EU.

NATO is American led. Much lower standards.
 
Well isn't this interesting...

Ukraine cannot win its war with Russia and should negotiate peace terms with the Kremlin, according to Britain’s most senior army officer.

Field Marshal Lord Richards said Kyiv will not be able to drive Vladimir Putin’s soldiers out of Ukraine without the help of Nato forces – who won’t get involved on the ground.

Lord Richards, who was promoted to the UK military’s most senior “five-star” rank earlier this year and led Nato forces during their troop surge in Afghanistan, said Ukraine’s allies have failed Kyiv.

“What we have done in the case of Ukraine is encourage Ukraine to fight, but not given them the means to win,” the former chief of the defence staff told The Independent’s podcast World of Trouble.


Reflecting on Ukraine’s chances of success against Russia, he said: “My view is that they would not win.”

“Could not win, even with the right resources?” he was asked.

“No,” he replied.

Pressed further by The Independent, he was asked: “ Even with the right resources?”

“No, they haven’t got the manpower,” the former commando said.


The field marshal’s intervention came after Volodymyr Zelensky flew to Washington DC to meet Donald Trump to try to persuade him to give Ukraine Tomahawk cruise missiles.



So, that's the head of the UK army stating that there's no hope of a Ukrainian victory unless NATO wants to get directly involved and put boots on the ground in a full scale war. Which they're not going to do unless they're even dumber than I think they are. Yet all the usual cheerleaders in this thread are still insisting that Ukraine is winning.
He failed to mention reality : west never wanted ukr to win any bare thing.
Never.

Therefore ofc Ukraine should be pro Kremlin oriented country and especially anti western oriented country.
Then they had good life.
Such decision ukr rulers should had made when westerners ( russias bottlemates in reality, opposition is for cinema scenes ) didn't had sold or supplied ukr any serious weapons. Anything serious.

So ofc they aren't friends.
Some small arms etc shit was ....mhmm.

Next : ofc reason wasn't NATO membership ambitions at all cos bottlemates never will allow this...
They just want to subjugate Ukraine...all other reasons are for guys like you.

☆ yes, west had removed navy ships from Black Sea before invasion even despite Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey are NATO member countries.
Such russian bottlemates in real life. Always will be.

So huelensky had some days to get what happens and that they are " sold "...might had called Putin and tell that west are peace of shit and useless for Ukraine.

This ofc only a bit might had delayed invasion. Still maybe some months time..

☆ after 24.02.2022 bottlemates talked nice talks, Russia yelled and....vuala, almost 0 weapons or ammo supplies, famous sanctions were a bit in reality started to implement in 08.03.2022

Also any more serious supplies were after some 2 weeks...
LOL, Such " friends ".

West never had intent to allow ukr to win anything, doesn't makes sense how much soldiers they had 0 or 1000000....


This realpolitik and real life____
It is just business and nothing personal.
 
I had posted in 2022 th that west never will allow ukr to win.
That part of ukr will be Russia, another part will be in poverty, dreams and debts... till next ...episode.

Now is 2025 th and I repeat : west never will allow ukr to win anything.

About supplies , all empty excuses , also claims about manpower always were on top....as excuses ofc....
Casual flowchart.


So yeah, some xx Tomahawks , aka Kalibr will not change anything.

West never will allow ukr to win anything, they together with lenders and Russia, China etc will press ukr to accept destiny. Sooner or later.

Unavoidable outcome.
Maybe China had ordered prolong war ... maybe will be all 2026 th...for China it will be cool, for North Korea and Belarus too.
 
West had reduced supplies, significantly, so these talks about Flamingo and tomahawks were for cinema scene..

Part of Ukraine will be Russia.
Another part will be ( until will join Russia) supervised by Russia, U.S, China and endless lenders too! ...
Poverty and debts... austerity measures, nice talks about super future.

Will do what these mentioned will order to do.
Otherwise will to go till Zimbabwe level.

Sooner or later will be Russia.

Doesn't makes sense what stuff ukr will sign or no in reality. Doesn't makes sense who will elect.
 
IMHO western clowns had been satisfied if all Ukraine had been incorporated in Russia quickly.
However then they get that Russia's ambitions are world hegemony!
Had get that main friends will be China, North Korea, Belarus, Iran...

Therefore supplied something.... ofc always too little, too late..cos ukr should had lost anyway.....everything is going according to planned.
 
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