International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Ruthless Ryan]

Size of the drone and the number of drones launched at a particular target.

Russia is getting ready to hit Kiev with a mixture of 2,500 drones and missiles next month. One single strike. Let us see how many Ukraine shoots down.

2500 a month? you believe that or just wish that they could kill so many more innocent woman and children?
Putler thinks that killing woman and children will help him win the war but it wont. Same mistake his idol Hitler did in the battle of Britain by using resources to kill civilians he ended up losing the main goal which is the military.
The more woman and children he kills the more other countries have stepped up to stop this maniac.

 

[San Marino]

2500 a month? you believe that or just wish that they could kill so many more innocent woman and children?
Putler thinks that killing woman and children will help him win the war but it wont.

No, in one night!

It worked for the US, did it not?
Did we not nuke thousands of innocent men, women, and children in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Claiming those bombings as military targets is a joke. Japan surrendered.

It is not about what I believe or wish, it is about what Russia claims it will do next month.

If Ukraine does the same, and they want to, all military aid will stop. Zelensky knows this.

Kiev has been warned but the population will most likely rely on its air defense systems.

 

[San Marino]

So, Trump and Putin are back to being friends again after their 2 hour phone call. Trump has decided Russia is more important than Ukaine as far as having good relations. Plus, Russia has nuclear weapons. Ukraine is not worth a nuclear war. No Tomahawk missiles for Zelensky. He can use the new Flamingo missile.

 

[Strychnine]

After a strike, you always want secondary explosions. Burn refinery, burn!

 

[Misfit23]

So, Trump and Putin are back to being friends again after their 2 hour phone call. Trump has decided Russia is more important than Ukaine as far as having good relations. Plus, Russia has nuclear weapons. Ukraine is not worth a nuclear war. No Tomahawk missiles for Zelensky. He can use the new Flamingo missile.

Putin probably rubbed Trump's ego a bit on the call to get him to do what he wants.

 

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[SandisLL]

Yup, appears that it is reality not fake news.

S-300 complex is good for such tasks ....however not quite suitable to shot down small, slow and low flying drones.

☆ Russia ofc does have IFF ( friend - foe ) ID system and responders on their airplanes.


However all this stuff needs cables contacts in good condition, maybe something disconnected and IFF responder didn't had worked.

There might be mode for SAM systems when it is set in certain flowchart that if response isn't here ...from respondentu, then automatic target tracking with fire control radar is done, missile set up for launch and bah bah.

 

[San Marino]

Some welcome news,
Germany seemed hell bent to become as dependable on Russia as possible.

No, they didn't.

 

[SandisLL]

So, Trump and Putin are back to being friends again after their 2 hour phone call. Trump has decided Russia is more important than Ukaine as far as having good relations. Plus, Russia has nuclear weapons. Ukraine is not worth a nuclear war. No Tomahawk missiles for Zelensky. He can use the new Flamingo missile.

You think that smart thing is to talk about russian nukes?

You are correct that west had threw ukr under bus, but it wasn't Trump...

It was Ukraine during 34 years.


For West ukr is russias sphere of influence.
Always was.

Therefore all these supplies etc were always too little and too late ....also not best stuff ofc...


Ukr ofc might be smart to agree elect pro Kremlin oriented government and sent western russian bottlemates to piss off....

It might be smart choice.

Look how smart were ppl in Georgia: elected pro Kremlin oriented parliament majority.
From financial and security aspects and economic perspective it is best future too, without any doubts.

 

[SandisLL]

I even see why these discussions and hype about Flamingo etc started and later smokescreen about Tomahawk.

For mainstream media customers are not only bloggers etc, also these " sammits " and talks.

West had reduced weapons and ammo real supplies after ukr had signed minerals deal....

So, we have a lot of talks and future promises, while in reality it is pressure on ukr.... to agree with putin. And ukr sooner or later will be forced to do this, likes or no.

West and east together with Russia will press ukr and ukr will agree....

 

[SandisLL]

Long term outcome for Ukraine will be that it will be Russia. All Ukraine. Sooner or later.

For short term : part of Ukraine will be Russia.

Another part : supervise by Russia, China and U.S plus leaders....colonium called Ukraine.

There will be loud hype about investments and nice future.
While in reality for casuals will be inflation, austerity measures and maybe hell they didn't had to see during last 40 years.
So emmigration will increase sooner or later....it is destiny.
Ofc some % of population will be fine, like always in all countries...especially rich ppl.
Others will see real hell.

☆ lenders will force implement austerity measures : for companies it will be to increase profit and if possible also reduce expenses. Ofc upper class will put this on others...and upper class will be lesser than 5 %.

Ukr companies and municipalities does have a lot of debts with nice clauses ofc.
Casual citizens does have debts and will have more debts...

Ukr gubbermint will be forced to implement austerity measures : to increase income and reduce spendings.
Casual IMF flowchart btw and there not only IMF.

A lot of ppl today are praying not to get hit by bombs today but they will pray and most likely their kids too ...how to survive till next salary.

Poverty will be actually more than today or in 1998 th. Ofc not for internet and mass media, some 1 -5% of ppl will be fine.

Ukr future prognosis.
Will happen.

Then will be incorporated in Russia completely, maybe after 10, maybe after 40 years...

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine even doesn't needs any security warranties from U.S or any other country. It will be peace of paper lesser worth than toilet paper.

NATO loves Putin, they doesn't gave a fuck that russia is keeping and expanding their military presence in Syria because this is their transport hub for operations in Africa and they are bottlemates and friends.
real life vs dreams.

Now there is big clash about resources in africa. Some 7 countries are very interested....

 

[SandisLL]

In internet and official outlets ukr should had pretty soon had started short range SAM system production Stilet together with Belarus....2012-2014

Grom 2 missile serial production since 2019 th...

While in reality appeared that were not able to produce even 1970 th model simple 122 mm Grad rocket for MRLS.

Now ofc Flamingo....