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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

No what I mean is, the point where Trump gets, or feels he has gotten crossed is the point at which we start sharing intel with Russia (if we weren't already)

Oh, that started last week once Tulsi Gabbard was sworn in.

You can BET that any flow of intel coming out of Europe has now become a droplet. Why turn it over to the U.S. when they're going to turn around and give it to Russia?
 
And? 30% of my Metropolitan area are illegal Mexicans and central Americans. Does that mean we should give it over to the Mexicans and Guatemalans?
Yes. By Biden's standards.
Who said anything about giving it over?
Talking about the % ratio of two cities in Eastern Ukraine. Let us add all the cities in Eastern Ukraine under Russian control and see what we get.
 
Well, this did not go over well for Ukraine.
Man, things got really nasty between Trump, Vance, and Zelensky.

BREAKING: Kremlin hails disastrous Trump-Zelensky meeting as 'historic'​

 
Better no deal than a bad deal. Trump has shown his cards and wanted his moment to denigrate Pres. Zelenskyy. Now the E.U. knows who they can trust and who they must support.
Well, I would say that was a win for Putin and Russia.
 
Well, I would say that was a win for Putin and Russia.

The only way Russia can win this is if everyone abandons Ukraine and that's not going to happen. If anything, it's strengthened the resolve of the EU.

Because they know they're next on the menu and Trump won't lift a finger to help them..

But...

That knife can cut both ways...


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The only way Russia can win this is if everyone abandons Ukraine and that's not going to happen. If anything, it's strengthened the resolve of the EU.

Because they know they're next on the menu and Trump won't lift a finger to help them..

But...

That knife can cut both ways...


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why would european countries accompany any future american foreign war as allies is what republicans need to ask them selves, but they wont, they will keep quiet and say nothing, vance is the real danger, that cunt is all in on 2025 and he will be happy if NATO implodes
 
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That was hard to watch, Trump wants to blackmail UKR with the mineral deal and basically Trump was saying your fucked without us…. Trump and Vance are two pieces of shit…. 2-1 degrading Z the whole time
 
The only way Russia can win this is if everyone abandons Ukraine and that's not going to happen. If anything, it's strengthened the resolve of the EU.

Because they know they're next on the menu and Trump won't lift a finger to help them..

But...

That knife can cut both ways...


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I been warning this was going to happen well before the election people forget that Ukraine has had over 1000 nukes and now has been developing nuclear weapon and France is putting nuclear weapons in Germany. You want to create conditions for world war Trump just gave it. You will see emergency talks this weekend I bet.
 
why would european countries accompany any future american foreign war as allies
The reactionary base in America is built on pure power fantasy, and the thought of people joining alliances with us willingly, out of good faith diplomacy, has no appeal; those same allies being forced to do what we want simply because we tell them to, well, that has a LOT of appeal.
 
Press pool just reported that Trump tapped Zelensky on his back and said we will talk again soon. Seemed like Vance was there to start a fight with Zelensky and that Trump weighed in with his own clash the whole thing was a setup to scare Zelensky into that sh%t mineral deal with Trump.. Zelensky should have told him we are days away from having an actual nuclear weapon see how Trump would react.
 
Press pool just reported that Trump tapped Zelensky on his back and said we will talk again soon. Seemed like Vance was there to start a fight with Zelensky and that Trump weighed in with his own clash the whole thing was a setup to scare Zelensky into that sh%t mineral deal with Trump.. Zelensky should have told him we are days away from having an actual nuclear weapon see how Trump would react.

Trump will get shit on by the media and have to do a U turn as JD Vance is coming across as an idiot which I dont see the general public will be supporting. Zelenski did make a slight mistake by saying the US would feel the war too and then Trump went Nuclear....I think some of that was because of Z's English not being perfect.
 
Trump will get shit on by the media and have to do a U turn as JD Vance is coming across as an idiot which I dont see the general public will be supporting. Zelenski did make a slight mistake by saying the US would feel the war too and then Trump went Nuclear....I think some of that was because of Z's English not being perfect.

Z has said that in the past week as well, he said US has 100k troops in europe and they will not be secure if all bets are off, ukr has deadly drones that can reach every corner of europe, if no one is making a U turn soon, i don't exclude totally the option for Ukr making a U turn, have their 1 million army joining the Rus/Belarus pact, on their journey to Moldova, as a first step, and than maybe a bit further. Chechens tried it earlier than the ukrainians the rebellion and im not sure zelensky wants to go out like dudayev. He might pull a kadirov 2.0 out of nowhere BLYAT
 
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