International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Cid]

 

[SandisLL]

WWII has been hashed and re-hashed. The why's and wherefores are left up to one's own interpretation. What in the world could Ukraine have done to stop Russia from just up and invading them twice other than total and complete surrender and subjugation to Russian control?

He is literally posting for paycheck....for Lavrov office. No one here hates U.S society and U.S as country more than spinmarino.

Constant posting for paycheck on the table he is getting. Maybe also for reports buttons pressing here too... why not.


Why he is awoiding to discuss what stuff Japan did before this? Hirosima and Nagasaki were walk in the park if compare with stuff Japan did 1937-1945 th. Majority of ppl died cos this were asiats and civilians....this realpolitik.
They not only managed to starve till death civies asiats and damn a lot had died cos ilnesses and without water etc....
They even had tested bioweapons on chinesse ....with fun.
Tortured ppl from China and Korea till Philipines till death....

Dreamed to rule from India and Australia & Hawaii... as hegemon.

If during 1938-1945 there was most brutal country it was Japan...after this Hitler and Stalin.

Ofc yanks are not ideal and are not trustable at all and never will be.

Still I don't get why a lot of dreamers in asia doesn't knows what had happened with them if Japan had win in pacific.
Double Hitler level.... this Hitler at least feared from microbes, therefore didn't had funded bioweapons program. Japan had antarx, cholera, plague programs... nice experiments unit 737 and Co.

 

[SandisLL]

In late 1930 ies Japan had resesrched vaccines development. To protect society.
For this ofc live cultures are needed....and then some experts assumed that they might have ideal and cheap tool to win wars: cultivate microbes and spread them...enemy population will die and buildings etc will be usable and intact.
If your troops are vaccinated and population too, then might take territory with low expenses...
Bioweapons for war...Japan.

 

[SandisLL]

BTW how maybe U.S yelling with phrase Europe should pay might end?
They might under the table negotiate with BICs...without asking everything U.S, Ukr or Russia...realpolitik.
Europe easily might apply import tariffs and duties for stuff U.S is selling..if Pump wilp yell too much.
Cos they more needs BIC and Gulf Countries rather than U.S in reality. U.S always will be pro Kremlin oriented...always.. in realpolitik de facto. Doesn't matter reps or dems. Weapons they are selling are overpriced and delivered with delays.....waste of taxpayers money in real life.

So Pump should be more careful in order not to see Eurasian Giant Size Empire.

Why not.

Ukr stuff most likely is small noise for world and ....for rus and ukr only dreams here in their brains...always will be.
No one in reality does care, it even isn't proxy war like russian dreamers are dreaming or ukr hope.

There some noise ...our voters are concerned, OK, cheaper to sent some help in order to prevent total 404 and to have more refugees etc...ofc better lesser and older stuff...and to value this higher...on paper and cry with fun.

 

[SandisLL]

Looks that I was correct in 2022 th....
That west had threw Ukr under bus. This was even before war 2022 th.

Today looks that west ( not only U.S ) will advise to do ceasefire and to start Ukr Rus talks about negotiations...

If Putin will be smart, then ....he might opt to do this and then he will have option to " talk " even x or xx years and why not?
Before signing some deal, even this.

If no and he will bark too much, then supplies might be increased dramatically. Especially if $ listed are not usable numbers: a lot of supplies had been overpriced very heavily.... We also might list that 36 y ago manufactured mine does cost 1 € or 1000 €.... why not.

 

[SandisLL]

For example MAGA voters and their PR are yelling about " my taxpayer's money " while europe is tired to pay for overpriced weapons....overpriced stuff....it is if about NEW stuff.

Not alone if we do know how calculated is $ value of stuff sent to Ukr.


In case with old stuff it even might be saved for western taxpayers utilisation expenses... despite they are cocky not thankful.

In some cases expenses are listed for new modern replacement not old crap sent...

In some cases amortization is taken in account.

Etc.

Ofc not all stuff is obsolete and Old.... some stuff is new, maybe to test....


Pentagon 2 x had admitted miscalculations and I think this is only beginning in the big game.

 

[SandisLL]

Putin does think that Russia always will keep land they had captured. Therefore he will continue...
He will express more and more demands because at least for february and march he does have funding easy without problems, meat might be hired and for him casualities or inflation doesn't matter today....

One thing is when he is attempting to subjugate ukr, anyway village with naked cavemans for west, another thing is if he will attempt to press Pump.

Pump even without additional approwed " funding " might sign 3 800 000 000 $ USD bill from funds remained in stocks after Biden ....and for this bombs and shells most likely all long ago are in Europe. 1 hour...some 8-16 hours and might be in Ukr.

Additionally they might press Sholtz to open stockpiles with old shells and bombs, mines etc...

 

[SandisLL]

There is stuff with Germany....
They will have elections next month.

It is very risky to attempt to get additional funding for Ukr before elections.
Because there are populistic political parties and they will use MAGA type propaganda....

Extra spendings approwed might result that AfD and some others might win. If this will happen, Ukr will further get 0 cent. 0
...

They are worse than MAGA or Orban.
Maybe like Fico in worst condition.

Most funny thing is that they are blaming EU, despite Angela responsible for very generous benefits for immigrants not EU.

Why under Angela Germany was more lucrative for immigrants and refugees than Austria, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg etc?
Easier to get benefits faster, more discounts, lesser requirements, generous benefits and discounts etc...Jesus...
Like Europe had power to order Germany how to use their local federal budget...?.

 

[SandisLL]

There ofc I might congratulate that U.D had completely lost world hegemony. Till end. So please sit in dreams corner and cope.

There isn't talk about Ukraine.
As first sanctions does not work de facto. Forget this.
American export weapons are overpriced and owerrated , sad and painful reality.
Piss off also with AI bubble and laughable sanctions. World hegemon will be Eurasian Empire...with ruler in BIC without R or Ukr or Russia. This...realpolitik game.

Provinces ofc might change while did had russians problems to get ruled by gy*(*y georgian in Stalin? They still were happy cos empire.

Do you think that it was mistake to cede Alaska for U.S.
YES. However we do have unlimited time to work and they does have time just till next elections. It is Russian World, Empire that should be...it will happen sooner or later cos they are weak.
Dugin. 1999 th.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Trump and Putin are buds. Zelensky is the one who has already pissed Trump off. Russia is going through some 'bumps' but nothing they can't handle. Nothing they have not dealt with in the past. Resilient people. Still in this conflict after 3 years in spite of all the shit you guys have been saying about it. You guys have been running cover for Ukraine for a while now. Just like the media with Biden. Lying about how this conflict is going. Truth will come out. Just like it did with Biden. Worst President in US history. Managed to beat Jimmy Carter.

Putin's economy is a Ponzi scheme at this point and do you know what happens to all ponzi schemes ? they end Badly just like what will happen to Russia sooner then later.

 

[Cid]

Beatings will continue until moral improves.

 

[Hog-train]

The few North Koreans captured seem to have no idea why they were sent to Ukraine. One POW said he thought he was being sent on a training exercise and is only a kid basically. When asked if he wanted to be returned to North Korea or stay in Ukraine - he said Ukraine.

 

[Strychnine]

Beatings will continue until moral improves.

What a dumpster fire of a military.

 

[GhostZ06]

When did I say that Team 6?
I'm not in the Army anymore. There was also The Salvation Army years. "Our own people?" Wicht people would those be? The bell ringers? Where do you guys in this threat come up with half this shit?

* Trump taking over tomorrow. Will clean up Uncle Joe's big mess at home and abroad. To include Ukraine.
Someone was saying that Ukraine is willing to become a US state. Better than NATO membership. Ukrainians are very excited. Is this true? Canada, Greenland, and Ukraine. Three new stars on the flag. Not sure what the configuration will look like.

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[GhostZ06]

Russian 155th marine brigade just beheaded some ukr corpses and put heads on spike, vids on reddit

That unit seems to be on news all the time for brutality stuff

it appears they deployed to Mali aka the Frances backyard..

 

[San Marino]

What in the world could Ukraine have done to stop Russia from just up and invading them twice other than total and complete surrender and subjugation to Russian control?

Is this a serious question?
Do you and others on this thread not know the history between Russia (USSR) and Ukraine?
Again, Ukraine could have stayed out of the option to join NATO. It was warned time and time again by Russia of the consequences. It decided to ignore those consequences and hence the current conflict. Now, I do not blame the Ukrainian people, I blame the Ukrainian government. People like Zelensky. Also, Ukraine has had a corrupt government for years. It is a corrupt democracy like many countries who claim to be truly democratic. Similar to much of Latin America where votes are bought during an election or the opposition somehow eliminated. Chile, Argentina, and Brazil. People assume that because Russia invaded Ukraine, they are automatically the bad guy. What would that make the US after invading Iraq? The UN was mostly against the US invading Iraq. Of course, we Americans don't give two shits what the UN or the rest of the world thinks. We are going to do what we want to do. Period. Was the USSR the bad guy during the Cuban missile crisis? No. Americans provoked the Soviets by placing nuclear missiles in Europe in 1958.

 

[Strychnine]

Is this a serious question?
Do you and others on this thread not know the history between Russia (USSR) and Ukraine?
Again, Ukraine could have stayed out of the option to join NATO. It was warned time and time again by Russia of the consequences. It decided to ignore those consequences and hence the current conflict. Now, I do not blame the Ukrainian people, I blame the Ukrainian government. People like Zelensky. Also, Ukraine has had a corrupt government for years. It is a corrupt democracy like many countries who claim to be truly democratic. Similar to much of Latin America where votes are bought during an election or the opposition somehow eliminated. Chile, Argentina, and Brazil. People assume that because Russia invaded Ukraine, they are automatically the bad guy. What would that make the US after invading Iraq? The UN was mostly against the US invading Iraq. Of course, we Americans don't give two shits what the UN or the rest of the world thinks. We are going to do what we want to do. Period. Was the USSR the bad guy during the Cuban missile crisis? No. Americans provoked the Soviets by placing nuclear missiles in Europe in 1958.

Wowww.

If you believe that Ukraine shouldn't be able to choose it's political/economic affiliations because Russia will be mad, then really ARE a Russian shill.

Now I know how to go forward. I hope that your potato rations comrade.

 

[San Marino]

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

You should read about a soldier's initiation into the 75th Ranger Regiment - U.S. Army.
The U.S. Marines (Infantry) also carry similar initiations.
Is it authorized or condoned? No. Does either group give a shit? No.
Now that females are part of the Infantry in both services, things have somewhat toned down. Your buddies want to see if you can fight and take a beating. No one ever ends up in the hospital. The senior NCO always steps in if thigs start to get out of hand. British SAS and the French Foreign Legion also carried similar initiations.

 

[San Marino]

Wowww.
If you believe that Ukraine shouldn't be able to choose it's political/economic affiliations because Russia will be mad, then really ARE a Russian shill.

Did we (the United States) give Cuba that option? Did we give Iraq that option? How about Vietnam?

 

[Strychnine]

You should read about a soldier's initiation into the 75th Ranger Regiment - U.S. Army.
The U.S. Marines (Infantry) also carry similar initiations.
Is it authorized or condoned? No. Does either group give a shit? No.
Now that females are part of the Infantry in both services, things have somewhat toned down. Your buddies want to see if you can fight and take a beating. No one ever ends up in the hospital. The senior NCO always steps in if thigs start to get out of hand. British SAS and the French Foreign Legion also carried similar initiations.

That wasn't some initiation in a controlled environment, that was one Russian trying to protect another from being kicked and beaten with a wooden plank.

Why do you keep white knighting for Russia? There is no "both sides" in this conflict. Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine never attacked them to draw their ire.