International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

Russia managed to capture next small abadoned village in Sumy oblastj. Definitely Putin will get report about successful liberation and will be asked again increase financing for small special operation.

 

[San Marino]

Can a B-1 bomber launch cruise missiles if it's on the ground and missing a wing?

Again, what does that have to do with the fighting in the front lines? Also, based on your video, why hasn't Russia launched a missile strike against Ukraine yet?

 

[Strychnine]

Again, what does that have to do with the fighting in the front lines? Also, based on your video, why hasn't Russia launched a missile strike against Ukraine yet?

You cannot launch the largest cruise missile attack on a country if your planes are broken and burning on the tarmac.

 

[San Marino]

Russia managed to capture next small village in Sumy oblast.

Indeed, while the Ukrainians are worried about old bombers deep inside Russian air bases. This is why Ukraine is losing this conflict. They can't get their priorities straight.

 

[San Marino]

You cannot launch the largest cruise missile attack on a country if your planes are broken and burning on the tarmac.

Ah, okay. So, all Russian missiles are launched from planes? I thought I read somewhere that Russia had hundreds of ground-to-ground missiles ready to be launched at Ukraine.

 

[Strychnine]

Ah, okay. So, all Russian missiles are launched from planes? I thought I read somewhere that Russia had hundreds of ground-to-ground missiles ready to be launched at Ukraine.

That didn't do them much good yesterday, did it?

 

[SandisLL]

Exactly air launched cruise missiles russia does have a lot.
They even might refubrish their old stockpiles of them.

_
They ofc does have also Kalibr, they might build ground based launchers for Kalibr missiles. Then they might launch them from large trucks...
Literally ofc if missile might be launched from ship, then from large truck too might be launched...with mechanism holding and elevating container with cruise missile.

 

[San Marino]

That didn't do them much good yesterday, did it?

Not yesterday, but there is still tomorrow.

 

[Rholk]

Love seeing San Marine in full cope mode.
Warms the heart

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

(seems I messed up the quoting function. Never mind, im sure Ruthless Ryan sees in anyway )

7B worth of airplanes destroyed or seriously damaged.

reportedly just over 40 bombers and AWACS

Who needs those planes when you have tactical donkeys....

 

[Cid]

Indeed, while the Ukrainians are worried about old bombers deep inside Russian air bases. This is why Ukraine is losing this conflict. They can't get their priorities straight.

This is dumb even for you.

 

[SandisLL]

Of to be fair, they does have well maintained and in good condition Tu 95....
However they doesn't produce these anymore.
Upkeep expenses for 1 Tu 95 were ..calculated more than 1.6 m USD$ in 1988 th USD$ e.q. each year, approx this.
To build these then already was > 35 m $ ....for 1.
Cheaper than Tu 160 and does have a lot of different adapters for bombs racks.....

Also it isn't easy to damage them with cheap FPV drones...unless they are filled with fuel like before scheduled flight...

With A 50 type radar is different situation: all ukr needs to achieve is to damage radar dish...
Then will not matter in what conditon other parts of airplane are ( these they might produce quickly ).
Before 2014 th sanctions and when friendly with west, they managed to produce " dish " approx 24 months after order signed. Like anyway that doesn't matter 1 or 2 dishes were ordered... small batch or single dish ordered.
This is very narrow field in engineering niche about radars, so low number of very experienced engineers and technicians for this task ( to produce and test these " dishes ")

 

[PEB]

 

[Bagatur]

Russia will be able to replace A 50 ....of again will delay scheduled deliveries for India... next year...
Question is does they have " dish " radar already manufactured or no.

Tu 95 they can't replace because they doesn't produce them anymore.
They loved to use these to launch cruise missiles on Ukr... because by using Tu 95 they might launch cruise missiles when airplane is far away from ykr borders ...in safety.

Tu 95 is very valuable for russia also cos one very important reason : it is usable to launch wide range of cruise missiles models, from 1970 ies old models till modern their cruise missiles.
It is rumoured that russia had continued to invest a lot to keep their Tu 95 fleet usable because they does have a lot of adapters for their weapons ( bombs ) bays ....in order easy to use different cruise missiles models.

I read somewhere that it was estimated that over 2000 missiles were launched from those destroyed airplanes. But apparently according to some, it's non-consequential for the course of this war.
Also the russians will be paranoiac now and will try to hide their airplanes in hangars and such, rather than have them be "sitting ducks" on the airfield. They wont be able to take off and launch missiles at a moments notice, taxying the planes to and from hangars takes awhile. Overall, this was such a great move by and for the Ukrainians!

 

[SandisLL]

I read somewhere that it was estimated that over 2000 missiles were launched from those destroyed airplanes. But apparently according to some, it's non-consequential for the course of this war.
Also the russians will be paranoiac now and will try to hide their airplanes in hangars and such, rather than have them be "sitting ducks" on the airfield. They wont be able to take off and launch missiles at a moments notice, taxying the planes to and from hangars takes awhile. Overall, this was such a great move by and for the Ukrainians!

They are in mad mode and searching for possible informants and saboteurs in russia with vigor and for a reason.
Real mad mode. Purges in some institutions will be done in depth... silently.

 

[SandisLL]

For example in Moscow one from form for small business is to purchase garages when price is low. Now owner is landlord...he maybe does have garage usable for car repair and in good condition with electricity etc...or rakushka. Rakushka is steel box with 0 other reality awailable. Might be used as garage for car for short term.

Owners ofc place adds to rent garages for money. More pre payment : better. 0 papers : for some of them might be better.
However russians aren't dumb not to get are your roubles or $ notes fake or no...usually, if they are specualants.

Let's take add where price is listed for month, go and tell that you need this for six months, gave cash for this and so on...bla bla bla. Like this .

 

[San Marino]

I read somewhere that it was estimated that over 2000 missiles were launched from those destroyed airplanes. But apparently according to some, it's non-consequential for the course of this war.
Also the russians will be paranoiac now and will try to hide their airplanes in hangars and such, rather than have them be "sitting ducks" on the airfield. They wont be able to take off and launch missiles at a moments notice, taxying the planes to and from hangars takes awhile. Overall, this was such a great move by and for the Ukrainians!

Not quite the whole picture:

Ukraine intel: Russia sits on missile mountain, churns out dozens monthly​

MSN
Despite the devastating blow to Russia’s strategic aviation, the enemy still possesses substantial missile stockpiles, including:
・Almost 600 Iskander-M ballistic missiles
・More than 100 Kinzhal hypersonic aeroballistic missiles
・Almost 300 Iskander-K cruise missiles
・More than 300 Kh-101 cruise missiles
・More than 400 Kalibr cruise missiles
・Up to 300 Kh-22/32 cruise missiles
・700 Onyx cruise missiles and Zircon hypersonic missiles
・60 KN-23 North Korean ballistic missiles.

There are also about 11,000 anti-aircraft guided missiles for the S-300P/S-400 air defense systems.

Russia Is ‘Grinding Down’ Ukraine To Victory Right Before Our Eyes​

MSN
. Russia is reportedly achieving its core objectives in Ukraine—securing annexed eastern oblasts, maintaining a land bridge to Crimea, and ensuring Ukraine's non-NATO, neutralized status—through a disciplined war of attrition, not by holding back out of fear of Western escalation.
. Despite Ukrainian counter-efforts, like a recent bomber strike deep into Russia, Moscow advances by fighting "smarter, not harder," leveraging superior artillery production, a resilient wartime economy, and Ukraine's mounting manpower crisis.
. This approach, focused on limited, achievable goals rather than total conquest, suggests Russia is on track to win on its terms, a reality the West has yet to fully acknowledge.
. Russia is not holding back in Ukraine because it’s afraid. It’s holding back because it doesn’t have to do more to win. That’s the part no one in Washington or Brussels wants to admit.
. Even yesterday’s dramatic Ukrainian bomber strike deep inside Russian territory – a bold, almost theatrical move designed to reassure Western sponsors – does not change the reality on the battlefield. Russia is advancing. Ukraine is eroding. And the war is being waged on Moscow’s terms.
. That doesn’t mean Russia wants to conquer all of Ukraine. It doesn’t. These are not the aims of a state pursuing some neo-imperial fantasy. They are limited, achievable objectives grounded in traditional strategic logic. Western commentators still insist that Russia’s goal is the total absorption of Ukraine.
. That’s why so much of the Russian military remains uncommitted. The air force has not been unleashed in full. Long-range missile strikes are calculated and limited. Elite ground units are rotated and preserved. Mobilization has been partial and politically controlled.

* If this is the best Ukraine can do against Russia, they have this conflict lost. Ukraine is currently losing the war on the battlefront where it counts. Russia is adding two Division of soldiers to this conflict per month. ...and we are still waiting for Russia's retaliation for Monday's strike. How many innocent Ukrainian civilians will die as a result of that? I guess those 'brilliant' Ukrainian tacticians did not think of that. Unfortunately, Ukraine was doomed from 24 February 2022. A valiant effort by the Ukrainians, but a loss like the US had in Vietnam.

 

[Bagatur]

Not quite the whole picture:

Ukraine intel: Russia sits on missile mountain, churns out dozens monthly​

MSN
Despite the devastating blow to Russia’s strategic aviation, the enemy still possesses substantial missile stockpiles, including:
・Almost 600 Iskander-M ballistic missiles
・More than 100 Kinzhal hypersonic aeroballistic missiles
・Almost 300 Iskander-K cruise missiles
・More than 300 Kh-101 cruise missiles
・More than 400 Kalibr cruise missiles
・Up to 300 Kh-22/32 cruise missiles
・700 Onyx cruise missiles and Zircon hypersonic missiles
・60 KN-23 North Korean ballistic missiles.

There are also about 11,000 anti-aircraft guided missiles for the S-300P/S-400 air defense systems.

Russia Is ‘Grinding Down’ Ukraine To Victory Right Before Our Eyes​

MSN
. Russia is reportedly achieving its core objectives in Ukraine—securing annexed eastern oblasts, maintaining a land bridge to Crimea, and ensuring Ukraine's non-NATO, neutralized status—through a disciplined war of attrition, not by holding back out of fear of Western escalation.
. Despite Ukrainian counter-efforts, like a recent bomber strike deep into Russia, Moscow advances by fighting "smarter, not harder," leveraging superior artillery production, a resilient wartime economy, and Ukraine's mounting manpower crisis.
. This approach, focused on limited, achievable goals rather than total conquest, suggests Russia is on track to win on its terms, a reality the West has yet to fully acknowledge.
. Russia is not holding back in Ukraine because it’s afraid. It’s holding back because it doesn’t have to do more to win. That’s the part no one in Washington or Brussels wants to admit.
. Even yesterday’s dramatic Ukrainian bomber strike deep inside Russian territory – a bold, almost theatrical move designed to reassure Western sponsors – does not change the reality on the battlefield. Russia is advancing. Ukraine is eroding. And the war is being waged on Moscow’s terms.
. That doesn’t mean Russia wants to conquer all of Ukraine. It doesn’t. These are not the aims of a state pursuing some neo-imperial fantasy. They are limited, achievable objectives grounded in traditional strategic logic. Western commentators still insist that Russia’s goal is the total absorption of Ukraine.
. That’s why so much of the Russian military remains uncommitted. The air force has not been unleashed in full. Long-range missile strikes are calculated and limited. Elite ground units are rotated and preserved. Mobilization has been partial and politically controlled.

* If this is the best Ukraine can do against Russia, they have this conflict lost. Ukraine is currently losing the war on the battlefront where it counts. Russia is adding two Division of soldiers to this conflict per month. ...and we are still waiting for Russia's retaliation for Monday's strike. How many innocent Ukrainian civilians will die as a result of that? I guess those 'brilliant' Ukrainian tacticians did not think of that. Unfortunately, Ukraine was doomed from 24 February 2022. A valiant effort by the Ukrainians, but a loss like the US had in Vietnam.

Let me break it down to you in village idiot terms. You have a gun. I take it away. You say "It doesnt matter, I have hundreds of boxes of bullets and can make a dozen every week". See where I am going? It doesnt mateer because you cant shoot those bullets.
Just like russia's missile mountain - they can have 10x, but it wont matter because they cant use them fast enough. It's just gonna make a nice explosion when Ukrainians find those stockpiles and blow them up.

 

[San Marino]

Russia still has half its bomber fleet intact. ...and it also has this amazing missile. This is what Ukraine should be expecting in the next few days. Folks in Kiev should be worried since Putin does not care much about civilian casualties, much like Netanyahu.

 

[San Marino]

Let me break it down to you in village idiot terms. You have a gun. I take it away. You say "It doesnt matter, I have hundreds of boxes of bullets and can make a dozen every week". See where I am going?

No.
That is because you are not going anywhere with your argument.
Russia does not need planes to launch their missiles bright boy.