International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

A theory on the A50 downing, altho it's purely speculation imo

Ukrainian Crews Set A Complex Missile Trap For Russia’s Best Radar Plane

Exactly how the Ukrainians shot down the four-engine A-50 is unclear, but analyst Tom Cooper has a theory. Ukrainian missile crews lured the Russian crew into a trap.

www.forbes.com

It is speculation about possible wester airplanes used by Ukr for CAS.....and this moment it is not usable....
MANPADS and AA autocannons are reason why...
Even Russia now mainly uses gliding bombs by launching them when airplane is in controlled by Russia with ground forces area...

Classic Avdiivka bombing flowchart : airplane is flying ower Donetsk city and releasing gliding bomb in order to strike coal coke plant in Avdiivka etc objects.

A-50 AWACS and Il command& recon centre airplanes are down.....yes....

 

[Blayt7hh]

Yhea but they offered condolences on 911 surely we are allies now...

Shills like @ViD are transparent their only goal is to shill for the Russians and to sow discontent with the culture war shit

He is actually Russian though so I wouldn’t call him a shill or fault him for being biased

 

[Blayt7hh]

China is dumb as fuck for helping the west. China is clearly the next target that the global antagonist NATO wants to kill and destroy no matter what.

lol you can accuse China of a lot of things, but being dumb is not one of them.

 

[Rod1]

That was an attempt to undermine the legitimate government of a country

No, it was an attempt to bring free and fair elections, what a large majority of Russians want

which could’ve put the nation on the brink of collapse and even a possibility of a civil war.

Weird that you blame people who are actually asking for Putin to respect the Russian Constitution and hold free and fair elections instead of you know the corrupt politicians that violate it.

 

[Rod1]

@ViD

Prigozhin, Girkin, Morozov.

All true believers of Russian nationalism, they all did a lot of work for Russian efforts to conquer Ukraine and for their efforts? death and prison.

At this point Russia doesn't exists as a country, its just Putin's fiefdom.

 

[SandisLL]

@ViD

Prigozhin, Girkin, Morozov.

All true believers of Russian nationalism, they all did a lot of work for Russian efforts to conquer Ukraine and for their efforts? death and prison.

At this point Russia doesn't exists as a country, its just Putin's fiefdom.

BTW Prigozin was Putin's friend and business partner too. He had connections with Catering companies who had contracts to supply Kremlin and rus military...
Girkin was hardcore putinoid and not only warlord....also propagandist....
For religious oriented ppl he told that Putin is blessed by God to rule....
For workers he told that Putin will care about workers wealth and rights.
For small businessmans Girkin told that Putin will care about their protection and rights. .
2014-2023 ...

 

[ViD]

No, it was an attempt to bring free and fair elections, what a large majority of Russians want


Weird that you blame people who are actually asking for Putin to respect the Russian Constitution and hold free and fair elections instead of you know the corrupt politicians that violate it.

Hilarious shit. You call it that way and it’s your choice, but at the end of the day the US has no business meddling in other countries political affairs just like it was argued about Russia in 2016.

Vladimir Putin is supported by the majority of the country and while I might disagree with the constitution amendments, he did not usurp the power, he actually has the support of the majority of the population

 

[ViD]

Fuckin lol talkin about legitimate government, maybe if zelenskys poisons his opponents or changes the law to make himself boss for life you might start worshipping him as well, getthefuckouttahere...

Don’t worry, his term in ending in March and he’s not holding any elections as his approval rating significantly dropped

 

[Rod1]

Hilarious shit. You call it that way and it’s your choice, but at the end of the day the US has no business meddling in other countries political affairs just like it was argued about Russia in 2016.

US wasn't meddling in Russia protests, this is just Putinist propaganda.

 

[Rod1]

Vladimir Putin is supported by the majority of the country

So why is he so afraid of legitimate elections? why does he murders political opposition and incarcerates protestors?

and while I might disagree with the constitution amendments, he did not usurp the power, he actually has the support of the majority of the population

This just communism rotting your brain.

Its funny how Dear Leaders are always so popular and loved yet they are so fucking afraid of opposition and protests.

 

[ViD]

US wasn't meddling in Russia protests, this is just Putinist propaganda.

Russia wasn’t meddling in the U.S. elections, this is just Democrat party propaganda

 

[Rod1]

China is dumb as fuck for helping the west. China is clearly the next target that the global antagonist NATO wants to kill and destroy no matter what.

China isn't dumb as fuck, their main export markets are the West and Western-aligned countries.

They are not going to fuck themselves up in the ass for Russia, especially when a weak Russia is something that would benefit China. Remember Russia fucked up China during the century of humiliation.

 

[Rod1]

Russia wasn’t meddling in the U.S. elections, this is just Democrat party propaganda

That's not what the Mueller report says.

 

[ViD]

So why is he so afraid of legitimate elections? why does he murders political opposition and incarcerates protestors?


This just communism rotting your brain.

Its funny how Dear Leaders are always so popular and loved yet they are so fucking afraid of opposition and protests.

Protestors in Russia are almost never incarcerated, they are taken to a police station, their information is recorded and they are let go.

What political opposition has Putin killed ?

Nemtsov was killed by his shady business partners and had literally zero weight in Russian politics when it happened.

Navalny ? An MI-6 asset with a clear goal of destabilizing Russian political situation. I don’t believe he was killed by Putin, and rather died of natural causes

 

[ViD]

That's not what the Mueller report says.

That’s a bull shit report and everyone knows it, the Facebook ads that Russia purchased is the only thing really “proven”.

 

[aerius]

That's not what the Mueller report says.

And that's how I know you never read the report. The only charges resulting from the Mueller report were procedural ones such as perjury and obstruction of justice, they failed to find any conclusive evidence of conspiracy or collusion with the Russians.

 

[PEB]

China's biggest banks are finally getting scared by the West's sanctions against Russia​

"Three of China's Big Four state banks have stopped accepting payments from sanctioned Russian financial institutions, per Izvestia.

• The halt follows the EU's 12th sanctions package against Russia and US secondary sanctions.
• The West is now targeting international firms doing business with Russia.

Three out of China's Big Four state banks have halted payments from sanctioned Russian financial institutions, Russia's Izvestia news outlet reported on Wednesday.

The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, China Construction Bank, and Bank of China have stopped the transactions since the start of 2024, Alexey Poroshin, the general director of investment and consulting firm First Group, told Izvestia.

While the three Chinese banks informed their Russian clients of the move in January, the issues started in December — after the European Union imposed its 12th sanctions package against Russia, Poroshin said. In December, the US also authorized secondary sanctions targeting financial institutions that help Russia skirt sanctions.

Chinese banks are tightening compliance checks with Russian businesses because they fear getting caught up in the West's increasingly restrictive sanctions regime against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine."

MSN

Not surprised given the Chinese economy has slowed to a crawl. US economy still growing though slower but Chinese economy has been going in reverse. I am sure Putin sold them a bag of crap an now realize they may never completely recover.

 

[SandisLL]

US wasn't meddling in Russia protests, this is just Putinist propaganda.

Ofc. Navalny btw as Russian president might be more dangerous for West than Putin...
It is reality, he was hardcore neo imperialist and ....one mistake he had was to be opponent for President's post....
If today Navalny had been in office ...we already had to see very large scale conventional war in Europe. Conventional World War III.
One good thing Putin had did is that he had locked Navalny in prison...

Other thing was bad when Nemtsov had been killed. Nemtsov wanted business and peace, profit for russians in russia and peace.....

 

[PEB]

A number of never Trumper Republicans outside of Romney admitted Mike Johnson talked off the record to them. He realizes he does not have enough support on his side to stop congress from forcing a vote on the floor.

Democrats they think due to members of AOC's side cannot support a forced vote. Mike puts it on the floor he's doomed. This is why things are frozen. I think next week things could move as Mike of all people slammed Putin in his hardest language yet of the killing of opposition leader.

 

[SandisLL]

Not surprised given the Chinese economy has slowed to a crawl. US economy still growing though slower but Chinese economy has been going in reverse. I am sure Putin sold them a bag of crap an now realize they may never completely recover.

I'm not confident that Chinesse economy will collapse.
They does have damn large mortgage bubble....it is reality....
While for example renewables bubble in EU had boosted up their export ....heavily and we have damn a lot of contracts and deals signed with China. Eurozone is 3 rd largest financial empire in world....

And if Trump will be POTUS China might take U.S place in weapons sales to eurozone countries and I don't joke here.....
Ofc already signed contracts will be smoothly paid if U.S will deliver weapons....however about new next contracts there will be very big questions....
Cos POTUS might stop weapons deliveries even if money is on the table and EU doesn't trust Trump.....0 ...trust.