International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

A few dozen troops training on Leapard 2s in France asked for asylum and the whole 155th brigade is now being investigated. Not a good look for Ukrainians.

This is peace of cake if some maybe 50 had deserted.

Most awful for Ukraine is...not proper rotation and damn different equipment level for territ def units and then Ukr attempting to use them on 0....regardless of equipment they does have. Jesus.

 

[SandisLL]

For exmple one from territ def units acc to pro ukr sources had been put on 0 with such equipment:
100 guys ( on paper assumed that 120 )....
Stuff they had : AKM assault rifles, approx 3 magazines for each, almost 0 hand grenades and nothing else...nothing more.
Then degenerates assumed that such unit might hold positions attacked by APCs, tanks and helicopters, drones and under mortars fire......

Some Ukr territ def units are equipped pretty well, some....sorry even not enough for policemans in peacetime....lesser...

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Putin will continue.
For him pofig, money he does have, still might hire guys and propaganda is financed as never berfore...

He even doesn't cares about Gazprom financial situation anymore: now looks that he better will push these 706 000 000 $ for special operation rather than order to compensate Gazprom for gas supplied to Transistria.
Also today doesn't looks that he cares about these separatists in Transistria.


If he might use this money to hire next batches with soldiers.... to continue small special operation.

It appears he is getting more insane by the day , as his country slowly crumbles around him and shows no sign of turning around he really doesnt give a single fuck. However when destroying another village and small gains at a massive cost of men and equipment brings a smile to his face.

 

[ferrisjso]

It appears he is getting more insane by the day , as his country slowly crumbles around him and shows no sign of turning around he really doesnt give a single fuck. However when destroying another village and small gains at a massive cost of men and equipment.

The main point of recent offensive was to get Ukrainians outside of artillery range of Donetsk city which has been under brutal siege for 10 years. Ending those peoples pain and suffering was well worth it. That was the tactical goal of 2024 for the Russian military and it was completed on New Years Eve. It wasn't really about the villages captured it was about making sure Ukraine couldn't set up artillery there.

 

[SandisLL]

It appears he is getting more insane by the day , as his country slowly crumbles around him and shows no sign of turning around he really doesnt give a single fuck. However when destroying another village and small gains at a massive cost of men and equipment.

He is approx the same like was in autumn 2022th. Senile and robotic.
Just increasing funding for propaganda and small special operation more and more.
Maybe he wants to get big name in history. Therefore each village for him matters damn a lot big sense.

1. To capture next village 2. Install fortifications 3. To use taxpayers money for reconstruction ...ofc oligarchs supplying materials and so on are happy. Prices are good, profit normal.

 

[irish_thug]

Anyone able to confirm these reports?

Still cheaper than Canada.

I really wish I was joking.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Still cheaper than Canada.

I really wish I was joking.

Hopefully our dictator will be gone sooner then later as both tyrants are hurting their own people.

 

[SandisLL]

Still cheaper than Canada.

I really wish I was joking.

At least salaries in Canada are higher and stuff like Mercedes or BMW cheaper than in Moscow. They might purchase them even today...despite sanctions on banks etc. Via middlemans companies and parralel import...ofc more expensive..
Plus modern or well reconstructed apartments in Moscow aren't cheap if in good area. Cheap are in buildings where almost 0 had been invested in up keep during last 30-50 years...

 

[SandisLL]

To get parralel import car from Germany easiest way is to get some middleman or middleman company residing in country not having sanctions on banks.
Then subject A might to pay, travel to country x or y, there all legal stuff, run 2-10 miles, car now is used....and you might sell to customer B, in Russia....who will sell this in Russia.
Ofc A and B will add price...

 

[filthybliss]

I am unhappy it came to an open conflict. I am unhappy with incompetence of Putin's foreign policy towards Ukraine and with how underprepared the military was. Seems that decisions were made based on many layers of false assumptions.

I do not wish war on anyone. But at the same time I see it as a result of a chain of provocations from the West and the Ukrainian elites. I very well remember Ukrainian politicians threatening to join NATO since I was a wee lad in the early 90's and I see why Putin sees Ukraine joining NATO as unacceptable.
To sum it up it's a power struggle among elites, and simple people are suffering for it.
This war only benefits warmongers and arms dealers.

I see the conflict ending with Ukraine losing territories and getting NATO peacekeeping forces stationed on its territory, also losing any economical independency due to huge debt and lack of people. They already are missing from 7 to 10 million people who fled the war, not counting killed and maimed. If those 10 million will not return, Ukraine is facing a very grim future no matter who rules it.

Future of Russia depends on how well we cooperate with our remaining allies and if they stab us in the back. If they don't, we'll do fine, if they do, we're kinda out of options.

I don’t really buy this. If Putin was so petrified of NATO neighboring him. Why did Russia illegally annex land to move closer to NATO countries?

 

[ferrisjso]

I don’t really buy this. If Putin was so petrified of NATO neighboring him. Why did Russia illegally annex land to move closer to NATO countries….

While expansion of NATO matters its importance in this conflict has been overrated where people think thats the main driver here. Its more Russia wanted to use pro Russian areas to moderate Ukraine pre 2013 but now that this isn't possible they are taking those areas back before they are forever lost to NATO and Western orbit more generally.

While Ukraine joining NATO isn't inevitable per say I don't think its the doomsday scenario for Russia people portray it is and Putin and co are more worried about the terms of what Ukraine joining NATO would look like. The doomsday scenario would have been Crimea and the Donbass being part of a NATO country. Putins policys have been designed to prevent this at any cost. If Lyiv and Kiev are in NATO it really changes nothing because Russia was never going to try and control that hostile population same with the Baltics. But friendly populations? They are going to fight to prevent that.

 

[filthybliss]

While expansion of NATO matters its importance in this conflict has been overrated where people think thats the main driver here. It’s more Russia wanted to use pro Russian areas to moderate Ukraine but now that this isn't possible they are taking those areas back before they are forever lost to NATO. While Ukraine joining NATO isn't inevitable per say I don't think its the doomsday scenario for Russia people portray it is. The doomsday scenario would have been Crimea and the Donbass being part of a NATO country.

You literally contradicted yourself within a paragraph.

So Russia was scared of Donbas and Crimea specifically being affiliated with NATO. This is odd because in 2014, Ukraine was indifferent towards NATO so those territories weren’t going to get stamped with NATO membership.

The crux of this conflict is Russia can’t leash Ukraine to always move in lockstep with them so they threw a tantrum.

 

[SandisLL]

I don’t really buy this. If Putin was so petrified of NATO neighboring him. Why did Russia illegally annex land to move closer to NATO countries?

Ofc there ukrainians dreamers about NATO and russian propaganda machine allowed for random mainstream media customers create these talks as reason for imperialistic war.
Ukraine had 0 chances to be accepted im EU or NATO in 2022 th or today if war didn't happened.

For NATO reason was cos Ukraine does have unpredictable elections results, they usually are electing populists with better PR campaigns, sometimes pro kremlin oriented, sometimes dreamers etc ....
Ukraine also was financially unstable. It does matter more than poor or rich country btw.
Ukraine in 1999 th was strategic weapons supplier for Russia....I don't talk about these nukes etc they had literally sold to Russia in 1994 th.
About these 575 long range cruise missiles and 9 strategic bombers they had sold in 1999 th....
Btw from these Pitin still does have at least 460 and these might be refubrished and launched on Ukr...with conventional warheads ....
Russia already had used these missiles and bombers against Ukraine...

Abdirstantowich skazkoterapia : russia soon will run out missiles reserves. 2022 th....ofc ....

Ofc also constant politic 32 years to make de facto deMilitarization and just empty talks about their militarization...... Jesus.

Putin needed just to wait till next elections.

West does have Orban, Fico etc beauties and will not make such mistakes again.

 

[Cid]

 

[SandisLL]

Fico will get lecture in real life pretty soon.
Slovakia is risking not to get subsidies from EU funds IF Fico will block electricity sales for Ukraine.
Cos they are for money not as gift and companies does have contracts......

To block funds will be easy... if compare to kick them out completely....

As about natural gas they does have a bit and might get from Austria's companies storages if they will pay.
EC reports are that EU countries does have natural gas storages filled by 72% of maximal capacity. Diesel fuel storages are filled by approx 85% ( both commercial and mando minimum req by central governments )...
Gasoline, kerosene and fuel oil storages are in filling process.

 

[SandisLL]

If about weapons supplies from Slovakia Fico friend as Slovakian president and chief of armed forces might block easily....with 0 problems.
While with electricity supplies nor Fico nor president might block them alone... mode.
They will need approval from parliament to breach commercial civilian contracts.
If parliament will not agree...then 0 options.

 

[GhostZ06]

The initial batch is expected to include three to six aircraft, which will likely replace Ukraine’s aging fleet of Su-24 bombers.


These Mirage 2000-5 jets, originally part of the French Air and Space Force inventory, have been retrofitted with advanced capabilities by France’s Directorate General of Armaments (DGA). Designed primarily as interceptors, the modified jets are now equipped to carry and deploy SCALP-EG and Storm Shadow cruise missiles, both of which are currently in Ukraine’s arsenal.



The deal for the Mirage 2000-5 jets was the result of prolonged negotiations between French President Emmanuel Macron and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The transfer underscores France’s commitment to bolstering Ukraine’s defense capabilities. Similar to earlier contributions of Caesar howitzers and AMX-10RC armored vehicles, the Mirage jets highlight the depth of French military support.


The Mirage 2000-5F jets will join the growing list of Western aircraft supplied to Ukraine, including the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon. While smaller and lighter compared to Soviet-era MiG-29s or Su-27s, the Mirage jets are highly maneuverable and capable of delivering precision strikes. Ukrainian pilots have reportedly praised the aircraft’s agility and combat effectiveness.


Although official sources have not confirmed the jets’ current operational status, there are indications that training flights are already underway. The first operational sorties are anticipated shortly after the formal delivery.


The deployment of the Mirage 2000-5F strengthens Ukraine’s ability to counter Russian aerial threats and launch precision strikes against critical targets. The jets’ compatibility with long-range cruise missiles significantly extends their operational reach, enabling strikes deep within enemy-held territory if necessary.

France sends first batch of Mirage jets to Ukraine

The first batch of French Mirage 2000-5 fighter jets is set to arrive in Ukraine by January 20, 2025, according to reports from Avions Legendaires. The initial batch is expected to include three to six aircraft, which will likely replace Ukraine’s aging fleet of Su-24 bombers. These Mirage...

defence-blog.com

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Fico will get lecture in real life pretty soon.
Slovakia is risking not to get subsidies from EU funds IF Fico will block electricity sales for Ukraine.
Cos they are for money not as gift and companies does have contracts......

To block funds will be easy... if compare to kick them out completely....

As about natural gas they does have a bit and might get from Austria's companies storages if they will pay.
EC reports are that EU countries does have natural gas storages filled by 72% of maximal capacity. Diesel fuel storages are filled by approx 85% ( both commercial and mando minimum req by central governments )...
Gasoline, kerosene and fuel oil storages are in filling process.

Fico and Orban arnt just fluffing for Putin but these 2 are as ugly as fuck....barely look human.

 

[Rod1]

Still cheaper than Canada.

I really wish I was joking.

You know what's way cheaper in Russia than in Canada? wages

It always baffles me, despite how ridiculous the "first world problems" meme is, i always find in the internet a first worldler always saying stupid shit like this.

 

[Rational Poster]

Still cheaper than Canada.

I really wish I was joking.

I mean, it's not exactly relative is it?

Russian average salary is like 1.2M Rubles, ($12K USD). The average Canadian salary is ~$50,000 USD. ($64,000 CDN).

And the ruble is becoming worth less and less. It's been worth less than a penny for last the last month or so give or take.

It's nowhere near the same problem when Russians are making 5 or 6 times less than the average Canadian.