International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

F22's being deployed all over the world Poland got some now 12 are heading to the middle east.

 


They are likely falsely reporting that the Strikers where supplied by the US? Strikers are made in Canada and the British Government also uses them. I know because the next town over from me takes Strikers in to modify them for reactive armor plating before being sent to the US military or Canadian and a British Company owns the company where this update is being made in the US. I am pretty sure the US would not approve of Ukraine using them in Russia.
 
Opening the Kharkov front proving to be an even more fatal mistake day by day.

Both sides were contained to a narrow front and had basically agreed to limit the fighting to just inside Ukraine. Russia in particular spent an enormous amount of effort and manpower and material fortifying that narrow front.

But in deciding to attack through Kursk and Belgorod, and also basing artillery there to launch their attacks, they've tacitly agreed to make Russia proper a battleground and that region is not nearly as well defended as the rest of the front.

Why attack where the defenses are the strongest when you can just go around?
 
Harkov oblastj attacks were pretty logical while obviously not planned initially...

They had noticed that Ukr air defense assets in Kharkov oblastj had weakened....
Therefore was easier to dop gliding bombs from longer range and high altitude by using Su 34.

Additionally they attempted also to fly CAS missions with Su 25 and attack helicopters ....

Other thing is that near border there are a lot of small villages, mainly abadonend...so when your forces capture village you name villages name a or b....
This does looks very good for propaganda purposes. Also military might report Putin: we had liberated village a , next day village b.

Not likely they will tell: before war village had 2000 inhabitants, now it is empty and abadoned ...we easily get this village located 2 miles from border.

There village b, 5 miles from border. It had 500 inhabitants before war. Now we had liberated village with 10 inhabitants waiting for liberation ... others 490 had run away long ago.
 
Strychnine said:
They might've already reached the tipping point...

Remember the Wagner group rebellion?

Remember how no one in the Russian military joined in?

Remember how no one in the Russian military tried to stop it?


That SCREAMS volumes.
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I don't know man. Sometimes I feel the stories we're primarily getting are wish fulfillment stories.

Russians, if anything, are a very resilient people. They're not going to collapse anytime soon and survived far worse in WW2.

I see a long, protracted frozen conflict going years and years into the future.

I really doubt we see Ukraine retaking Crimea now even though I want that to be the case.
 
Hog-train said:
I don't know man. Sometimes I feel the stories we're primarily getting are wish fulfillment stories.

Russians, if anything, are a very resilient people. They're not going to collapse anytime soon and survived far worse in WW2.

I see a long, protracted frozen conflict going years and years into the future.

I really doubt we see Ukraine retaking Crimea now even though I want that to be the case.
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Not likely they will get back anything. At first in order not to be delusional we should remember first Rammshtein meeting declaration....where ....didn't had been included phrase that allies support is for Ukraine to win.
Policy actually didn't had changed if we look how ukr is supplied......always too little, too late.

However it isn't possible to compare WW2 USSR with modern Russia.
WW2 USSR had ...ukr fighting too AND not only lend lease , also a lot of intelligence info from western agencies + huge number of voluntary informants worldwide: some % did this just cos hated Hitler....some % because lived in dreams that Communists is very good thing.....

USSR get a lot of support from saboteurs, diversants and partisans in occupied by Hitler areas ...later even managed to expand large networks with informants in occupied areas....
BTW motivation too was different: soviets then really had a lot of volunteers ...also for work in ammo and weapons factories etc....
The same large masses with evacuated ppl who before war had lived in now occupied by Hitler areas....angry cos now doesn't have where to live cos Hitler...ofc a lot of them with pleasure rushed to apply for work in these ammo and weapons factories .....
 
Hog-train said:
I don't know man. Sometimes I feel the stories we're primarily getting are wish fulfillment stories.

Russians, if anything, are a very resilient people. They're not going to collapse anytime soon and survived far worse in WW2.

I see a long, protracted frozen conflict going years and years into the future.

I really doubt we see Ukraine retaking Crimea now even though I want that to be the case.
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freedom of speech - no
freedom of assembly - no
freedom to protest - no
freedom to speak out against regime - no
freedom to have different ideas - no
freedom to form political blocs - no
freedom to vote - no

The regime has had centuries to perfect suppressing any political dissent. It will be very difficult for someone to overthrow Putin and they might be even worse than Putin himself.
 
ferrisjso said:
Yes but Russias failure or success blockading Odessa isn't going to change anything about this wars outcome.
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i know the starcraft tutorial doesn't cover it but yes, that's a very important port for Ukraine and maintaining free access to and from the port is a major achievement for a country with no navy. Is Odessa pivotal to the war? no, is it important, yes.
 
Btw kiev independent did third part on problems international legion faces (incompetence,corruption etc)


 
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Ukraine should immediately follow flowchart Russia is using in occupied villages: immediately sent agitators with applications formulars to apply for Ukr citizenship.
Quickly issue Ukr passports.
AASAP referendum ofc .....
 
GhostZ06 said:







Looks like they might have captured this gas facility
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Well gawd damn, fucking ballsy..

Ukraine: Oh you thought we were going to try to take back some of our land?

I think we will just take some of yours over here instead…
 
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