International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[AWilder]

I dont have a problem with defending
Avdiivka if it makes from a military pov

If its purely done from a political pov then i do object to it...

Now, granted we don't know nearly as much as the actual commanders know, but the recent move to replace a very capable commander for one seemingly more willing to just do what he is told has me a bit worried...

I think the main concern with Zaluzhny was his unwillingness to commit to a counter offensive plan. Who knows what the right call is at this point but some believe if Ukraine had committed more to one front they could have had another collapse of Russian lines.

 

[SandisLL]

I think the main concern with Zaluzhny was his unwillingness to commit to a counter offensive plan. Who knows what the right call is at this point but some believe if Ukraine had committed more to one front they could have had another collapse of Russian lines.

Maybe.
However delays with supplies allowed Russia to have year to dig in and install minefields.

Also I think that Ukraine should not had attempted to do counteroffensive...
Khakov stuff was different: russia assumed that they will advance further and therefore didn't had installed minefields...
After success in Kharkov west suspiciously started to slow down supplies....what a coincidence...

# to schedule offensive without air support against opponent who does have industrial scale minefields and superiority in MRLS and artillery & mortars ....
It is deUkrainization and guess who had ordered this ?
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Ukraine should had opted to keep frontline and shell & strike ....drones etc....

 

[SandisLL]

BTW imho russia is crazy.
Avdiivka.
Small advantage is popped up by troll farms and chatbots farms & propagandists.
In some areas 14 km advantage during 23 months!!! in minefields....
Imagine losses when such stuff is done?????

While technically was possible to turn Avdiivka into Dresden 1945 th .... with arty & MRLS....without sending troops in minefields...

 

[SandisLL]

Next beauty really shows how stupid is Ukraine.
They were happy with Poland's elections results.....cos they didn't liked that Conservatives does know about Mr Bandera a lot and about history and might to talk about reality.

Yes, new government in talks about Ukr is more polite and still this doesn't matter.

Conservatives in Poland had made quick decisions, for example if bomb had been approwed then in the same day shippment had been started.
They usually disclosed shipments ONLY week after these already were in Ukraine...

These new: aporox month long discussions before decision....

 

[SandisLL]

Running out of drones most likely means : jammers from europe at least a bit had been delivered.
Russia does use damn a lot of civilian drones doctored to be used for military purposes.

 

[PEB]

 

[SandisLL]

There now is pushed narrative that Europe is europeans problem and like they are maybe poor idiots milking U.S ....such propaganda is pushed in U.S social networks and designed for lazy public....

I ofc agree with flowchart that 2% of GDP should be used for def and actually I want more....better at least 4%....
Cos in my area stuff from funding this is used also for search and rescue and assiting for floods control and to deal with forests fire shit..... cos this is additonal duty for National Guard ....in some cases.

While isolationists should know how deeply their pensions and investments are connected with europe....and real situation what might happen with them.
For example one small bank in my area actually de facto is owned by americans and these are using americans private pensions funds and investment funds...
While in FDI index this small stuff is approx 1,1 b USD$ cos then prices were low....
Now it's net worth is ~4b $ USD and from this mortgage is ~1,5 b $ USD....
So really it is american problem not european problem.
How highly tied are economies is difficult to get...
This stuff ...one example...is part of americans private pensions and private investment funds. While local " cavemans " aren't Kurds No2 ......or ukraine...

 

[SandisLL]

Russian population in general are cocky slaves easy to brainwash...nothing will change.

One example: true original name for city under Tzar and Lenin was Bakhmut and this name had been given from ethnic russian sales businessmans...
Artemovsk is symbol of Stalinism cos this is surname of one notable communist not name given from russian world...
By accepting this name it is denial of russian sales business heritage.

 

[Anewt]

Russian population in general are cocky slaves easy to brainwash...nothing will change.

Valery Fedorov is director of Kremlin-loyal pollster WCIOM and an official advisor to the first deputy chairman of Russia’s presidential administration. In a September 2023 interview with Russia’s RBC, Fedorov reluctantly acknowledged that the number of Russians who actively and enthusiastically support Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine is not more than 10-15 percent of the population.


Everything changes eventually

 

[AWilder]

Valery Fedorov is director of Kremlin-loyal pollster WCIOM and an official advisor to the first deputy chairman of Russia’s presidential administration. In a September 2023 interview with Russia’s RBC, Fedorov reluctantly acknowledged that the number of Russians who actively and enthusiastically support Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine is not more than 10-15 percent of the population.


Everything changes eventually

A sack of potatoes and onions only goes so far...

 

[SandisLL]

Trump pre election campaign already is hurting U.S MIC business sales. Not alone high prices and slow deliveries, now also insulting and lies ....
This week U.S MIC had failed to get 3 weapons sales for europe to get signed.
This is their ( AKA MAgA ) taxpayers future income europe aren't Kurds No2 ...
Words matters 0.
U.S MIC had failed 2 cruise missiles and 1 MANPADS sales deal for europe this week...there isn't anything to correct anymore.
While yeah already signed 3xx b worth long term contracts will be paid IF weapons will be delivered.
Next future deals: elect Trump and will have 0 $ next deals....after this.

 

[the big marmot]

ukraine has women and ppl with down syndrome on the frontline

 

[SandisLL]

Decisions in Europe now are made with taking in account that maybe most likely next POTUS might be Trump and there is risk that he might block weapons deliveries EVEN if money is on the table. Reality is that till december definitely U.S will not be prefered seller for new next contracts in europe....
Some stuff is considered also about possible next new LNG contracts....

 

[SandisLL]

ukraine has women and ppl with down syndrome on the frontline

Artifical fake image from troll farm comrade.

While you are correct, Putin had allowed cannibal to fight in Ukraine and pardoned this cannibal despite he had killed ethnic russians in russia...far from ukraine....
Putin allowed to hire prisoners and mental healthcare patients .
I think Zelensky might follow this flowchart. Later.

 

[Orgasmo]

Ukraine is sending in Azov to try to save Avdviika. Yes it's that unit with an affinity for certain German symbols. Shit must be really bad.

Ukraine is reinforcing Avdiivka. And there are good reasons to believe it’s bolstering the eastern city—current the locus of Russia’s winter offensive—with one of the best brigades in the Ukrainian army.

The 3rd Assault Brigade. The only Ukrainian ground-combat brigade that we know for sure was in reserve in eastern Ukraine as of last week.

Brig. Gen. Oleksandr Tarnavskyi, commander of the Tavriya group of forces in Avdiivka, announced the reinforcement on Telegram on Saturday. “We strengthen the blocking line, set up additional firing positions and use fresh effective forces,” Tarnavskyi wrote. “Logistical delivery continues.”

That the Ukrainians would reinforce Avdiivka was not a foregone conclusion. In apparently choosing to stay and fight, Ukrainian forces are accepting enormous risk.

After four months of hard fighting, Russian troops from the 2nd and 41st Combined Arms Armies finally breached Avdiivka—a key Ukrainian stronghold just five miles northwest of Russian-occupied Donetsk—earlier this month and approached within a few hundred yards of the main road by which the Ukrainian garrison, centered on the 110th Mechanized Brigade, gets supplies into the city.

At that point, Tarnavskyi had two options. Pull back the 110th Brigade’s survivors from the exposed eastern part of the city and consolidate the Ukrainian line in central Avdiivka or just outside the city, to the west.

Or: reinforce the 110th Brigade and try to push the much larger Russian force away from the garrison’s supply lines.

It’s possible it wasn’t Tarnavskyi’s decision to make.

Last week, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky removed his popular top general, the charismatic Valery Zaluzhny, and replaced him with the unpopular former head of the ground forces, Gen. Oleksandr Syrskyi.

Zaluzhny has a reputation—deserved or not—for embracing a mobile defense in order to minimize Ukrainian casualties. Syrskyi by contrast has a reputation—again, deserved or not—for accepting high casualties in stubborn, static fights.

It’s possible that, in promoting Syrskyi, Zelensky signaled his intention to fight for Avdiivka. Even at high cost.

Ukraine May Have Deployed One Its Best Brigades To Try To Save Avdiivka

The 3rd Assault Brigade was the only Ukrainian ground-combat brigade that we know for sure was in reserve in eastern Ukraine as of last week.

www.forbes.com

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine is sending in Azov to try to save Avdviika. Yes it's that unit with an affinity for certain German symbols. Shit must be really bad.

Ukraine May Have Deployed One Its Best Brigades To Try To Save Avdiivka

The 3rd Assault Brigade was the only Ukrainian ground-combat brigade that we know for sure was in reserve in eastern Ukraine as of last week.

www.forbes.com

Interestingly why you aren't concerned about certain german symbols of they are used by Uktin and wagnerites.
Btw there is only one real pure Nazi symobl: eagle holding in claws circle with swastika inside.... approwed by Hitler and Himler...
THIS one Utktin had tattooed.

You lowe Russia...
3 rd assault brigade isn't Azov btw.
Azov is name of sea....
Initially azovites were just one batallion.aporox 500 guys.

Later was Azov regimen named cos location.
Me likes how you indirectly are supporting russia between lines....

 

[SandisLL]

To send anything more directly in Avdiivka IMHO is useless ....
Cos supply routes are shelled...and this was already in the end of December...

Worth might be attempt to attack pincers from flanks if this is possible and ofc also to shell from long distance OFC if arty & MRLS are awailable...

 

[ferrisjso]

Ukraine is sending in Azov to try to save Avdviika. Yes it's that unit with an affinity for certain German symbols. Shit must be really bad.

Ukraine May Have Deployed One Its Best Brigades To Try To Save Avdiivka

The 3rd Assault Brigade was the only Ukrainian ground-combat brigade that we know for sure was in reserve in eastern Ukraine as of last week.

www.forbes.com

Denazification time!!

Lets gooooo!!!

Of course capitalist Forbes describes the Nazis as "Ukraine may have deployed one of it's best brigades". Tell us how you really feel.

 

[SandisLL]

Again this Belgrade troll had activated.
Don't worry, deNazification in Russia long ago had been started....just russian world fanatics doesn't see reality : future Chinatown....

And If 3 rd assault brigade will be sent not in Avdiivka but attack pincers from sides then it will be fun for russian Nazis in reality.

If in Avdiivka ....then Huelensky really needs mental healthcare....

 

[Orgasmo]

Interestingly why you aren't concerned about certain german symbols of they are used by Uktin and wagnerites.
Btw there is only one real pure Nazi symobl: eagle holding in claws circle with swastika inside.... approwed by Hitler and Himler...
THIS one Uktin had tattooed.

You lowe Russia...
3 rd assault brigade isn't Azov btw.
Azov is name of sea....
Initially azovites were just one batallion.aporox 500 guys.

Later was Azov regimen named cos location.
Me likes how you indirectly are supporting russia between lines....

Oh I absolutely care about Nazis getting killed. Uktin is dead now, and that's one less Nazi in the world. If Ukraine wants to send their Azov neo-Nazis to the meatgrinder to be killed off, even better. Like I said, I'd give Ukraine another 6 months before the front lines cave in.