International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Copper Burner]

Sucks we're getting their trashbots

I just got done shutting you up about CIA having bases in Ukraine prior to the coup they orchestrated there in 2014. It's from a New York Times article which is why you had nothing to say.

Yes, the west started the war you absolute pea brain.

 

[SandisLL]

Copper Burner is earning paycheck by posting here.

I had posted that Central Bank of Russian Federation will made decision about key base rate and most likely will increase this till 16,5 -18,5% .
This had happened ....like stuff I had posted that with resources provided etc barely is enough to keep frontline if Lucky ( 2023 th ) and that fortifications and minefields will be big problem.
When Arestantovich had propheted that Russia during next 1-2-4 weeks will run out of missiles I had posted that Russia does have mountains of weapons and ammo.

Also no one from trolls posting here agreed to bet to post exchange rate predictions nor to solve math question despite kept to yell....

 

[Anewt]

Seems like the Russian (Wagner) guy behind Greyzone got got killed today in Mali, along with a fuck ton of other Russian/Wagner scum.

Those regimes in Africa that just kicked out French/US forces, because Russia was going to help them, are going to be in for a rough, rough time.

Finding out that a nation that has problems projecting power 20 miles from their own border can't do jack shit a thousand miles from their border must be shocking.

This shit would almost be funny of it weren't for innocent people suffering because shitbag groups like IS will be taking over.

In fairness the French had been exploiting them for decades and the US drone base wasn't particularly protective

 

[Cole train]

Gonna post here as well regarding ambush that word on rus side is that this is due to wagner mixing with ministry of defence/nat guard and getting incompetent commanders on platoon/squad level

Smart thing would have been promoting or leaving "prigozin era" guys in command but russia gonna russia

 

[Rholk]

In fairness the French had been exploiting them for decades and the US drone base wasn't particularly protective

Yeah, i watched the documentary (posted by you i believe?) on the French in the region.

They certainly weren't there for just their humanitarian goals,
I don't blame African nations for wanting them gone.

But on the realistic side of things, pushing the french/US out and filling that gap with the worst Russia has to offer isn't going to improve the situation for Africans.
Apart for the Junta's that get thrown some cash for their compliance.

Hell, dare i say Russia isn't even going to be bothered with pretending they are there for stability/security etc.
They're going to be focussed on just securing their own interests there (duh), which will probably come down to some mines and ports,
if they even manage that.

The French had alot more assets/capabillities in the area than the Russians do and they didn't exactly have a smooth ride either.

So yeah, if i may speculate, that region is going to downhill fast and that's going to suck for the ordinary people in it.
Kicking the French out wasn't wrong from a moral point of view, but it sure was stupid from a practical point of view.

 

[ShinkanPo]

democrats better spend the next few months shovelling as many weapons as they can to ukraine, judging by last night, the orange fuckwit takes over come new year

He must not rule!

 

[ferrisjso]

Japan lost because of America, end of story. Anyone that states otherwise is exposing themselves as a fool

In terms of having to leave China sure. In terms of conquering the country. No.

 

[PEB]

Wrong post.

 

[PEB]

Russia not being able to accomplish anything in Ukraine is the funniest propaganda that the west puts out.

Russia has been losing the war from the start according to the west. Lol

 

[Copper Burner]

That's a swing and a miss.

 

[SandisLL]

Yeah, i watched the documentary (posted by you i believe?) on the French in the region.

They certainly weren't there for just their humanitarian goals,
I don't blame African nations for wanting them gone.

But on the realistic side of things, pushing the french/US out and filling that gap with the worst Russia has to offer isn't going to improve the situation for Africans.
Apart for the Junta's that get thrown some cash for their compliance.

Hell, dare i say Russia isn't even going to be bothered with pretending they are there for stability/security etc.
They're going to be focussed on just securing their own interests there (duh), which will probably come down to some mines and ports,
if they even manage that.

The French had alot more assets/capabillities in the area than the Russians do and they didn't exactly have a smooth ride either.

So yeah, if i may speculate, that region is going to downhill fast and that's going to suck for the ordinary people in it.
Kicking the French out wasn't wrong from a moral point of view, but it sure was stupid from a practical point of view.

Yes, some mines and ports.
Literally short term interests for quick ROI for some oligarchs.

French ofc aren't ideal, still at least then some long term loans for infrastructure etc more awailable.

 

[SandisLL]

With oligarchs will be that same as in Checnya Grozny...
Where villages are like in 1990 th or even worse in reality, while Grozny city looks very good.
What stuff oligarchs did ? Invest in mining sites, stuff like hotels, restaurants etc bringing fast profit...for example build building for business and rent rooms for businesses etc...

While all other infrastructure on federal budget....so russian in some Moscow oblastj financing roads, power stations, communications and these average buildings with small apartments ...landfills and waste water treatment etc etc in some Chechnya....

 

[SandisLL]

Short term military economy works, but money printing comes with a big cost which Russia is just kicking the can down the road for now until they cant. I was wondering if Putler would start to use his own wealth to support the SMO as he is one of the richest in the world due to his corruption and flat out stealing from the Russian people.

Putin is actually interested in very short term financial goals for PR reasons and long term geostrategic goals ( like to control more mining industry potential etc stuff ).


So in short term if you even have real GDP net decline even 2 or 2,5%, you might make GDP growth + the same 2 or 2,5 %(!!!) IF you are pushing for example 6% GDP net worth savings (N.B) for MIC and related orders plus ofc if you are financing so called special operation and special operators....

You might also mask effect of money printing on currency exchange rate IF you are imposing restrictions and rising key interest rate up and up again.
Zimbabwe started to turn into Zimbabwe slowly, initially with key interest base rate 20%...(y.au/ fiu rate )...and slow money printing + prohibitions.... until almost all serious deals were done in foreign currency ....and then had later reached 200% key interest rate, re denomination and added 0 s on cash notes.
Till level that sometimes old series cash notes were cheaper to use as paper rather than to purchase paper.
With scotch also usable as toilet paper ( DIY mode ofc )...

Ofc Russia will not go quickly till this but experience with money printing they does have. I hope they will get instructors from Zimbabwe with decent experience ....

 

[Rholk]

 

[SandisLL]

Hungary is blocking one from EC/EP decisions for Poland.
And yes, there now were clear signals that Poland doesn't want to see Hungary as member of NATO and EU anymore.
Polish vice MoeF already had told that maybe for Hungary better is to choice alliances they does support in reality ( Russia) rather than to remain as EU and NATO member.

Ofc without any doubts Duda will order to block votes in EK/ EP for co financing for Hungary.
In January if Orban will not change his stance, Poland and Co might officially reccomend to launch procedure in order to expel Hungary from European Union. Ofc this should be very long procedure...years .....

 

[SandisLL]

Gonna post here as well regarding ambush that word on rus side is that this is due to wagner mixing with ministry of defence/nat guard and getting incompetent commanders on platoon/squad level

Smart thing would have been promoting or leaving "prigozin era" guys in command but russia gonna russia

Wagner had degraded after small special operation had started....
Before this they were secretive stuff with hiring network by using agents. Agents looked for guys with military training background and in good shape. Even then they had probed them psychologically etc before to talk with them. Yes, they were tested also in shooting range etc...
Yes, guys were capable.

Later with hiring with lesser requirements till ....money hungry prisoners....as addition.

While cos ruled by former GRU leutenant colonel in Utkin [ Nazi ] they weren't with intent to conduct long term campaigns... more like 1 min - 36 h fights or diversions, sabotages etc...
GRU units task isn't to conduct long term campaigns by using ground forces.

 

[SandisLL]

If about Hungary conflict vs Poland then Hungary is in hole.
Poland does have more backup in EP/ EC than Hungary and Slovakia together and if about U.S they are friendly with both Reps and Dems.. the same about U.K fractions.

Ukrainians hate against PiS was wrong deal : they hoped that if more liberal forces will rule Poland then they will get more support.
Outcome is reality was slower decisions about support for Ukr and helpless attitude about border blockades.

While bad according to huelensky puppets PiS were major supporting lobby for Ukraine in EU....and delivered quickly without long talks....
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Ukraine should follow democratic route and respect Christian values like to regret sins and admit mistakes in order to be member of european family ......
Duda. 2019 th.☆

 

[Strychnine]

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[PEB]

Ukraine building drones that can fly over 1000 miles and over Russia no less. Another huge reason not the let Russia take over Ukraine and knuckle dragging numb nuts Russian apologist know the significant threat that Ukraine could be to the rest of Western nations if we allow Ukraine to be handed over to Russia. They have literally a 1000 Tony Starks that can make weapons technology for 1/10 to 1/100 the money yet still significantly dangerous to Western Nations. They in a few months hacked Russian broadcasting computers, brought down the banks a few times, built 10's of thousands of low cost drones under 2 grand that destroyed a Russian T-90 tank. Yeah that would be a brilliant idea to hand them over to Russia.

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Ukrainian Drones May Have Flown A Record 1,100 Miles To Target Russian Bombers At Their Northern Base"​

Ukrainian Drones May Have Flown A Record 1,100 Miles To Target Russian Bombers At Their Northern Base

Olenya air base supports Tupolev Tu-22M3 bombers, which routinely strike Ukrainian cities.

www.forbes.com