International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[Darkballs]

Keep watching the MSM that tells you Russia is always the aggressor, always acts without being provoked and has no justification for feeling threatened.

You nerds really get a lot of mileage out of that shitty picture don't you?

Sorry champ, but this is the 9th post-Soviet war under Putin. An invasion that both he, and posters like you, swore would never happen. Then the moment it did, you made zero apologies for the lie, and have now just dipped yourself in whatever nonsense you think justifies the indiscriminate shelling of civilian centers.

Spin it however you want boy, but there is no legal or ethical justification for the Russian invasion. Everyone knows the real reason, because Putin has been pretty clear about it through his previous invasions and anexations. He seeks to move Russian borders westwards up until he reaches the old Soviet boundaries. Only then will his shit-tier military feel safe.

But as we are seeing now, russia is a paper tiger. You're losing ground to an army that is but a fraction of your size. You've been forced for years to send rapists and criminals to the front, as everyone with an education or conceince has fled. Your oil sector has collapsed and you lack the tech and expertise to even get the old wells pumping. Putin has managed to do what every dictator tries to avoid, made the economic and day-to-day life for the average Russian, shittier than it's been in decades. Not a small feet, given how terrible the country was just a few years ago. What allies do you have left now? You've already gone begging to the North Koreans because you need even their shitty artillery rounds to aim at shopping malls and apartment complexes.

Putin is running his nation in the ground in his desperate bid for a legacy as he walks toward his grave. And he'll do it over the graves of hundreds of thousands of russian teens, old men, and criminals to get there. And the only people still left cheering at this point, are cowards like you how can type safely from a western space.

 

[Cid]

Really is amazing watching you try to spin damn near ever developed country in the world choosing to align with America as a bad thing.

 

[giusti825]

Really is amazing watching you try to spin damn near ever developed country in the world choosing to align with America as a bad thing.

Anything that leads to unnecessary war is a bad thing.

The over-expansion of NATO makes the US less safe and costs us money without making the American people any safer.

 

[Cid]

Anything that leads to unnecessary war is a bad thing.

So more bases?

Agreed.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Anything that leads to unnecessary war is a bad thing.

The over-expansion of NATO makes the US less safe and costs us money without making the American people any safer.

What a word salad that comment was...

 

[giusti825]

So more bases?

Agreed.

More bases encroaching farther can make other countries feel threatened.

These countries currently have no intention of attacking our invading the United States. Feeling an external existential threat could change those intentions.

It more American money wasted for zero increase in domestic security. There are ways to spend that money here that would be far more beneficial to the people of the United States.

 

[Cid]

More bases encroaching farther can make other countries feel threatened.

These countries currently have no intention of attacking our invading the United States. Feeling an external existential threat could change those intentions.

It more American money wasted for zero increase in domestic security. There are ways to spend that money here that would be far more beneficial to the people of the United States.

You think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if they were in NATO?

Russia would actively chose to fight the alliance of America, Germany, France, England, Canada, Italy, Belgium, NL, Turkey, Norway etc etc?

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

More bases encroaching farther can make other countries feel threatened.

These countries currently have no intention of attacking our invading the United States. Feeling an external existential threat could change those intentions.

It more American money wasted for zero increase in domestic security. There are ways to spend that money here that would be far more beneficial to the people of the United States.

You just dont see the bigger picture of what's going on and what needs to happen.

 

[AWilder]

try to come up with something new, you moron. you keep repeating yourself...

btw hows the counteroffensive doing? huge success as promised? you gonna give kiev comedian and his cronies more money?

The irony.

 

[giusti825]

You think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if they were in NATO?

Russia would actively chose to fight the alliance of America, Germany, France, England, Canada, Italy, Belgium, NL, Turkey, Norway etc etc?

They would have never allowed that to happen. However, if Ukraine never tries to join NATO, and respects the Minsk accords, the invasion never happens.

 

[grimballer]

That's nothing ,Shoigu just claimed 6 F-16's were shot down as well as a patriot system and multiple other jets.

so maryinka is still under ukraine control?

 

[grimballer]

The irony.

literally unable to come up with something new or original

 

[AWilder]

literally unable to come up with something new or original

You truly are

 

[grimballer]

You nerds really get a lot of mileage out of that shitty picture don't you?

Sorry champ, but this is the 9th post-Soviet war under Putin. An invasion that both he, and posters like you, swore would never happen. Then the moment it did, you made zero apologies for the lie, and have now just dipped yourself in whatever nonsense you think justifies the indiscriminate shelling of civilian centers.

Spin it however you want boy, but there is no legal or ethical justification for the Russian invasion. Everyone knows the real reason, because Putin has been pretty clear about it through his previous invasions and anexations. He seeks to move Russian borders westwards up until he reaches the old Soviet boundaries. Only then will his shit-tier military feel safe.

But as we are seeing now, russia is a paper tiger. You're losing ground to an army that is but a fraction of your size. You've been forced for years to send rapists and criminals to the front, as everyone with an education or conceince has fled. Your oil sector has collapsed and you lack the tech and expertise to even get the old wells pumping. Putin has managed to do what every dictator tries to avoid, made the economic and day-to-day life for the average Russian, shittier than it's been in decades. Not a small feet, given how terrible the country was just a few years ago. What allies do you have left now? You've already gone begging to the North Koreans because you need even their shitty artillery rounds to aim at shopping malls and apartment complexes.

Putin is running his nation in the ground in his desperate bid for a legacy as he walks toward his grave. And he'll do it over the graves of hundreds of thousands of russian teens, old men, and criminals to get there. And the only people still left cheering at this point, are cowards like you how can type safely from a western space.

says all that nonsense while ignoring the main part

without nato involvement theres no war.

russian on multiple occasions asked the kiev comedian and nato to sign a deal where ukraine doesn't join nato.

kiev comedian also violated the minsk agreement he signed with the people in eastern ukraine and continue bombing and terrorizing civilians.

also you talk about "wars started by russia" post soviet union, how many were started by nato members in that same time period?

 

[scoopj]

20 days in mariupol doc, civvy side of things from siege

No subs for rus parts but general language english

20 Days in Mariupol

Venäjän hyökättyä Ukrainaan muutama toimittaja ja kuvaaja jäi piiritettyyn Mariupoliin raportoimaan sodan kauhuista. Monet heidän kuvistaan levisivät ympäri maailman ja videot näyttävät tuskan, jota sairaaloihin loukkuun jääneet ihmiset, haavoittuneet ja kuolevat joutuvat kokemaan. Parhaan...

areena.yle.fi

I watched this one…

20 Days in Mariupol | Watch the Oscar-Winning Documentary | FRONTLINE

Watch FRONTLINE & The Associated Press' Oscar-winning documentary on Russia's siege of Mariupol told through the lens of Mstyslav Chernov and two colleagues who documented atrocities and their own escape.

www.pbs.org

Increased my hatred for Putin dramatically.

 

[Cole train]

I watched this one…

20 Days in Mariupol | Watch the Oscar-Winning Documentary | FRONTLINE

Watch FRONTLINE & The Associated Press' Oscar-winning documentary on Russia's siege of Mariupol told through the lens of Mstyslav Chernov and two colleagues who documented atrocities and their own escape.

www.pbs.org

Increased my hatred for Putin dramatically.

Oh yea its same one but english source lol

 

[grimballer]

You truly are

what? much smarter and wiser than you? yes! we agree on that!

 

[aries]

What options does UKR have?

They just need to keep up the diplomatic pressure and keep that ammo and arms flowing in. If Trump gets in, they are fucked.

 

[aries]

if it was a proxy war Ukraine long ago had been supplied considerably more and better.
I even wonder why Ukraine had insited for NATO membership?
For west they sadly are cavemans with lesser resources than Russia and I mean business....
Therefore it is nothing personal.
Supplies are what they are, talks with Putin etc.
Till today waste of time and resources for Ukr but if they doesn't have brains that they long ago had been ceded to East then their problem.

West had refused to sell them any heavy weapons, didn't agreed to sell MANPADS.
They did deMilitarization 30 years in row while talked nice talks,

For Ukraine had been better to cede country to Iran, China beauties, Before 2014 th.

West had throw them under bus and they are in long term just wasting time,
Kurds No2,

Sadly I am more in agreement with you. It just seems like Ukraine has been used as a gigantic weapons expo, and the West has no intention of giving Ukraine enough to win.

The US has carriers in the Mediterranean to protect 'helpless' Israel against super-powerful Hamas but is struggling to agree to continue sending old munitions to Ukraine to fight the Russian empire.

 

[Orgasmo]

Ukrainian telegram channels seem to confirm loss of Marinka as well after Russians claimed they captured the city.