International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[curryjunkie]

It's hilarious Russian mentality, they think they can invade , takeover then get offended if they are not greeted with a red carpet and flowers.

to be fair the USA and britain have done the same shit, dont make putin right of course

 

[Goonerview]

Imagine if you will, living in a world of unicorns and fairy's. however reality is much different. Would you recommend holding hands with Putin singing kumbaya around the campfire as he invades,kills and destroys everything he can?

Under Donald Trump, there were no new wars. He met with Kim Jong Un and opened a dialogue with him, he at least tried to defuse the tension.

This “us v them” mentality will put us on a path of destruction for the planet and humanity.

We are supposed to care about the planet and reduce pollution and “CO2 omissions”, and now with the Russia/Ukraine war, the Israel/Hamas war, how much destruction and damage is being done?? If Nukes start being dropped, how much damage could there potentially be??

When dealing with nuclear superpowers, who also have hypersonic missile technology, every effort needs to be taken for a peaceful resolution and coexistence.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

to be fair the USA and britain have done the same shit, dont make putin right of course

Same but different, Putler is invading with intent of taking over land and conquering territory, allies were trying to remove terrorist regimes.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Under Donald Trump, there were no new wars. He met with Kim Jong Un and opened a dialogue with him, he at least tried to defuse the tension.

This “us v them” mentality will put us on a path of destruction for the planet and humanity.

We are supposed to care about the planet and reduce pollution and “CO2 omissions”, and now with the Russia/Ukraine war, the Israel/Hamas war, how much destruction and damage is being done?? If Nukes start being dropped, how much damage could there potentially be??

When dealing with nuclear superpowers, who also have hypersonic missile technology, every effort needs to be taken for a peaceful resolution and coexistence.

Putin can not be negotiated with and if you heard his interview he intends on going forward with this war with no end in sight until he "achieves his goals" which still includes more territory. So you either appease Putin give him what he wants and hope he keeps his word and not invade down the road or fight on....no easy solution as Putin appears to have gone batshit crazy.

 

[Goonerview]

Putin can not be negotiated with and if you heard his interview he intends on going forward with this war with end in sight until he "achieves his goals" which still includes more territory. So you either appease Putin give him what he wants and hope he keeps his word and not invade down the road or fight on....no easy solution as Putin appears to have gone batshit crazy.

He can be negotiated with under a mature leadership.


The Russia/Ukraine war ends with negotiation and the signing of peace treaties.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

He can be negotiated with under a mature leadership.


The Russia/Ukraine war ends with negotiation and the signing of peace treaties.

Oh OK, everything I thought about Putin must be wrong then.

 

[ViD]

It's hilarious Russian mentality, they think they can invade , takeover then get offended if they are not greeted with a red carpet and flowers.

Crimea is Russian land fought for, blood spilled and conquered by Russian soldiers from the Turks and then gifted to Ukraine by a Ukrainian Soviet leader Khrushchev

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Crimea is Russian land fought for, blood spilled and conquered by Russian soldiers from the Turks and then gifted to Ukraine by a Ukrainian Soviet leader Khrushchev

Impressive you said something that's factually true. However Crimea is a complicated area considering what has happened there in the last few centuries but by law it was UKR territory and that's what the world community sees.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Under Donald Trump, there were no new wars. He met with Kim Jong Un and opened a dialogue with him, he at least tried to defuse the tension.

This “us v them” mentality will put us on a path of destruction for the planet and humanity.

We are supposed to care about the planet and reduce pollution and “CO2 omissions”, and now with the Russia/Ukraine war, the Israel/Hamas war, how much destruction and damage is being done?? If Nukes start being dropped, how much damage could there potentially be??

When dealing with nuclear superpowers, who also have hypersonic missile technology, every effort needs to be taken for a peaceful resolution and coexistence.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 

[AWilder]

I did Nazi that coming

 

[SandisLL]

He can be negotiated with under a mature leadership.


The Russia/Ukraine war ends with negotiation and the signing of peace treaties.

You mean surrounding treaty with agreement to be incorporated in Russia?
It might be lucrative deal for Ukraine: declare default and tell all creditors to piss off and STFU, Matushka will not pay 1 single cent after this. Ofc there mandatory russification as side effect but after U.S had relocated diplomats from Kiev and all navy from Black Sea only an idiot can't see even this big signal that they had been sold.
After this slowed down and limited supplies with mainly old stuff long ago scheduled to replace.

Another big opportunity for Zelensky now is to declare was vs China and insult Xi, then surround. Xi if will be angry will order to install occupation forces in Kiev.....this variant too might be lucrative for Kiev....

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Do you think that vest values UKr higher than Russia?
It never had happened.
Ukr for west are cavemans with low resources and Russia cavemans with resources .....therefore ....according to this also supplies.
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Literally I think that west gameplan is to allow Putin annex all areas he had annexed on paper de facto and then to keep Ukr in dreams and debts ( remaining territory ).....as a buffer.

Only blind ppl can't see intentional delays with supplies and reduced supplies....

If Ukraine didn't had get clear signals even till today then .....
Decades in row.

Ukraine was Russia's weapons supplier and had de Militarized country 30 years in row with vigor. NATO needs such country as dog needs to have 5 the leg...

 

[SandisLL]

Under Donald Trump, there were no new wars. He met with Kim Jong Un and opened a dialogue with him, he at least tried to defuse the tension.

This “us v them” mentality will put us on a path of destruction for the planet and humanity.

We are supposed to care about the planet and reduce pollution and “CO2 omissions”, and now with the Russia/Ukraine war, the Israel/Hamas war, how much destruction and damage is being done?? If Nukes start being dropped, how much damage could there potentially be??

When dealing with nuclear superpowers, who also have hypersonic missile technology, every effort needs to be taken for a peaceful resolution and coexistence.

Under Donald U.S had dramatically reduced number of troops stationed in Afganistan and with this wasn't enough to keep even key points in Cabul, therefore Biden had been forced to install more troops in order to make evacuation more or less possible.
Assessment that locals will fight vs Taliban was wrong.....
This reality.
And I do know that you are MAGA supporter thinking in isolationist view.
While MAGA will lead to Great Depression for middle class and lower middle class and working class ....in U.S


Russia is in de facto Axis with North Korea and Iran + Belarus.....
While they are China's vassal and China indirectly will support North Korea.
You will vote for Donald and this will be your own choice.

World hegemony already is lost and cope with this.

 

[SandisLL]

Next fun that according to some mullahs Crimea is historically part of Muslim and therefore.....let wait and .

 

[PEB]

Well the situation already deteriorating in Ukraine. Putin thanking the US for making it happen seriously. Moral is the lowest since the start of the war. Military historians blame the west for not providing air power soon enough.

It seems that congress changing hands is the route cause for so much negativity, EU unable to get a deal on weapons. Putin also stepping up the attacks on Civilian locations. Win all around for Putin an fascism are winning. It took truck loads of Russian bodies an Western feet dragging well it's happening.

 

[SandisLL]

Well the situation already deteriorating in Ukraine. Putin thanking the US for making it happen seriously. Moral is the lowest since the start of the war. Military historians blame the west for not providing air power soon enough.

It seems that congress changing hands is the route cause for so much negativity, EU unable to get a deal on weapons. Putin also stepping up the attacks on Civilian locations. Win all around for Putin an fascism are winning. It took truck loads of Russian bodies an Western feet dragging well it's happening.

With EU countries it is difficult situation about weapons because countries who does have land border with Russia, Ukraine or Belarus can't afford to deplete their stockpile .....
They should instead to increase stockpile and ASAP.....


While worst thing from EU now are delayed decisions about further financial assistance.

More than this: some EU countries had provided military assistance in Nov and December....

 

[SandisLL]

Delayed decision about further financial assistance.
A. Macro financial assistance bill for January isn't yet signed.
It had been supposed 1-5 b EUR financial injection on monthly portions basis each month.
It isn't signed ......

B. Additionally supposed 50b EUR additional assistance bill isn't signed.

C. Supposed loans warrants packages for January aren't signed .
I mean guarantee letters for next ukr loans.....

D. IMF had transfered 900m financial aid package as next batch in this month but will require audits etc.....

So really not a fun for Ukr ....

 

[PEB]

Well Putler says Biden lying about going after NATO but in the same sentence says Finland needs to worry? Is he F'd in the head or what? Did he forget about Finland status all these Russian fan boys are nuts.

"

Summary​

It’s 2pm in Kyiv and here is a summary of Sunday’s major developments in Ukraine’s war against the Russian invasion.

• Russian president Vladimir Putin warned of “problems” with neighbouring Finland after it joined Nato earlier this year. Russia plans to reorganise military divisions to station more troops in its northwest region, by the EU and Nato border.
• But Putin dismissed US president Joe Biden’s claims that Russia could attack a Nato country as “nonsense”. It came after Biden said Putin would not stop at Ukraine if it secures victory, as he pleaded with Republican lawmakers to authorise further aid to Kyiv."

 

[SandisLL]

Lithuania had provided and delivered December batch with military assistance.
This batch includes undisclosed number of anti tank missiles and approx 3 000 000 cartridges in calibers from 5,45x39, 7,62x39, 7,62x51 and 7,62x54 mm plus 12,7 mm Soviet and NATO type ammo.....
Ukr had already get this delivered....

They can't re export stuff purchased from Switzerland and Israel, therefore ability to provide military stuff is limited.

Also they had supplied 2 launchers for NASAMS and undisclosed number and type of missiles for them......while further assistance abilities are limited because they does have land border with Lukashenko and Russia ...therefore should increase stockpiles and can't deplete these.

 

[SandisLL]

Well Putler says Biden lying about going after NATO but in the same sentence says Finland needs to worry? Is he F'd in the head or what? Did he forget about Finland status all these Russian fan boys are nuts.

"

Summary​

It’s 2pm in Kyiv and here is a summary of Sunday’s major developments in Ukraine’s war against the Russian invasion.

• Russian president Vladimir Putin warned of “problems” with neighbouring Finland after it joined Nato earlier this year. Russia plans to reorganise military divisions to station more troops in its northwest region, by the EU and Nato border.
• But Putin dismissed US president Joe Biden’s claims that Russia could attack a Nato country as “nonsense”. It came after Biden said Putin would not stop at Ukraine if it secures victory, as he pleaded with Republican lawmakers to authorise further aid to Kyiv."

Funny from " smart " Putin .
Finland as part of Eurozone full member should follow ECB approved sanctions.
When Kremlim had threat vs them to implement special measures ( read small special operation ) they had applied for NATO membership and because they in some niche fields are world top 3....they get easily accepted even by Erdogan and Orban.
Big achievement for Hitler No2.

 

[grimballer]

Same but different, Putler is invading with intent of taking over land and conquering territory, allies were trying to remove terrorist regimes.

sure, sure and santa claus is the one putting all those gifts under your christmas tree...