International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[method115]

It's entirely GOP fan fiction that there is some lapse in border security under Biden though. The DHS has received more funding than ever before each year under Biden.

Literally millions have been caught and turned away every year.

I'm not doubting that. I haven't looked into so I really don't know what's going on at the border. I just think they should just give them the W so we can move on to what I believe are much bigger issues. Within reason of course. I actually don't know what Republicans are asking but I assume it's just more money.

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm not doubting that. I haven't looked into so I really don't know what's going on at the border. I just think they should just give them the W so we can move on to what I believe are much bigger issues. Within reason of course. I actually don't know what Republicans are asking but I assume it's just more money.

If they really wanted a solution to the problem it's more aid and private investment to central America and a diplomatic offensive between all the countries in the region.

This is going to naturally sort itself out overtime as central America continues to develop into a more advanced industrial region, but they could step on the gas and provide even more resources to spur growth in the region and increase border security in those countries.

The problem isn't that our border security is weak, the problem is that the chain of central American countries between us and south America have very weak governments and poor border security. Plus not all the countries are friendly to us or each other.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

If they really wanted a solution to the problem it's more aid and private investment to central America and a diplomatic offensive between all the countries in the region.

This is going to naturally sort itself out overtime as central America continues to develop into a more advanced industrial region, but they could step on the gas and provide even more resources to spur growth in the region and increase border security in those countries.

The problem isn't that our border security is weak, the problem is that the chain of central American countries between us and south America have very weak governments and poor border security. Plus not all the countries are friendly to us or each other.

That sounds nice but not going to happen anytime soon. once the caravan's start in whichever country they pick up 1000's of people along the way and no one wants to stop it because no one wants to deal with it.
They dont even need to dig tunnels, climb walls or get smuggled in. They just come to the front door and claim refugee status and play the system.
But your right you have to kill the snake before it bites.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

No..you are putin's bitch because you won't shed your own blood for Ukraine.

Wow, only fitting you have Carlson as your avatar while spouting utter non sense.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Wow, only fitting you have Carlson as your avatar while spouting utter non sense.

No...you are full of shit. You spout utter nonsense about supporting Ukraine by purchasing some kind of shit vodka. If you won't fly to Ukraine and volunteer to fight, then stfu.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

Just checking in, Ukraine's still winning right?

 

[Phisher]

Just checking in, Ukraine's still winning right?

This nonsense is just about done.

 

[Phisher]

It's entirely GOP fan fiction that there is some lapse in border security under Biden though. The DHS has received more funding than ever before each year under Biden.

Literally millions have been caught and turned away every year.

Biden also took up construction of the border wall after railing against it on the campaign trail.

 

[AWilder]

It's entirely GOP fan fiction that there is some lapse in border security under Biden though. The DHS has received more funding than ever before each year under Biden.

Literally millions have been caught and turned away every year.

It's working so well Ron Desantis literally has to kidnap migrants from Texas for his political stunts.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I think this is in the instance of when Putin decides to attack a NATO member country and article five is invoked.

When? LOL, bro, Putin can barely gain any ground in Ukraine in over a year. And as per you and like minded people, is being pwned everyday by farmers, let alone the army. You people are delusional as fuck. They clearly want the eastern part of Ukraine to get the minerals and resources China wants.

Putin runs out of any steam the moment China wants them to, and Chinia does NOT want a war with Europe. Moreover, they already taking losses, and while Russia can outlast Ukraine, but they aren't outlasting NATO and a bunch of well armed NATO countries lol.

Get real

 

[SandisLL]

This; west is starting to loss vs Axis in Belarus+Russia+Iran+ North Korea and some fools are happy?

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
Marcus Tullius Cicero

 

[Rational Poster]

That sounds nice but not going to happen anytime soon. once the caravan's start in whichever country they pick up 1000's of people along the way and no one wants to stop it because no one wants to deal with it.
They dont even need to dig tunnels, climb walls or get smuggled in. They just come to the front door and claim refugee status and play the system.
But your right you have to kill the snake before it bites.

Most refugee claims are denied and then they get deported anyway.

 

[ViD]

When? LOL, bro, Putin can barely gain any ground in Ukraine in over a year. And as per you and like minded people, is being pwned everyday by farmers, let alone the army. You people are delusional as fuck. They clearly want the eastern part of Ukraine to get the minerals and resources China wants.

Putin runs out of any steam the moment China wants them to, and Chinia does NOT want a war with Europe. Moreover, they already taking losses, and while Russia can outlast Ukraine, but they aren't outlasting NATO and a bunch of well armed NATO countries lol.

Get real

This fear mongering shit is getting out of control. It’s the same idiots that said Russia planned to take Kiev in 3 days. Yes, the same Russia with 190k military against 450k Ukrainians was about to take Kiev, a 3 million city, in 3 days. Good lord.

Putin’s initial plan was to encircle Kiev, get Zelensky to sign the neutrality docs and forfeit Crimea and then leave without even taking the 3 new regions Russia is now annexing.
And then Russia and Ukraine HAD the agreement and Russia pulled the forces back from Kiev, but Boris Johnson told Zelensky “look, these cowards are retrieting, let’s keep fighting and take Crimea” and here we are now.

Russia has no intention nor the capacity to attack NATO members, people need to understand it

 

[SandisLL]

Most likely initial plan was to make ukr gov to fled from country...then to install puppets had been peace of cake and west not likely even bothered much.
Claims that supposedly small forces can't be serious threat are ridiculous....
1. Ukraine actually had deMilitarized 32 years in row.
Russia had considerably more tanks and if to talk about aviation unlike Russia ukr had mainly airplanes and helicopters manufactured before 1992 the and not upgraded properly....or even not upgraded at all.

So there a lot of reasons why ukr gov and Zelensky might had opted to relocate from Ukraine....

Also if about other weaponry seriously de militarized Ukraine had been supposed to fold relatively easily....

 

[curryjunkie]

This fear mongering shit is getting out of control. It’s the same idiots that said Russia planned to take Kiev in 3 days. Yes, the same Russia with 190k military against 450k Ukrainians was about to take Kiev, a 3 million city, in 3 days. Good lord.

Putin’s initial plan was to encircle Kiev, get Zelensky to sign the neutrality docs and forfeit Crimea and then leave without even taking the 3 new regions Russia is now annexing.
And then Russia and Ukraine HAD the agreement and Russia pulled the forces back from Kiev, but Boris Johnson told Zelensky “look, these cowards are retrieting, let’s keep fighting and take Crimea” and here we are now.

Russia has no intention nor the capacity to attack NATO members, people need to understand it

what about all the vespene gas? you should really let ol putin know, since you are so privy to his intentions...




plank

 

[PEB]

US an other non OPEC oil producers is plowing over 14 million barrels a day Fing OPEC. Thanks to OPECS efforts to try to hurt the US. If Saudis decided to flood the market would F Russia. Saudi apparently hinting of flooding again an Putin freaking out. Aid packages for Ukraine are really f#cked.

 

[Orgasmo]

US an other non OPEC oil producers is plowing over 14 million barrels a day Fing OPEC. Thanks to OPECS efforts to try to hurt the US. If Saudis decided to flood the market would F Russia. Saudi apparently hinting of flooding again an Putin freaking out. Aid packages for Ukraine are really f#cked.

Saudi is not exactly too happy with Russia eating their Chinese pie. Russia offered discounted oil to China after invading Ukraine, which drove Saudis out of their largest market.

 

[PEB]

Saudi is not exactly too happy with Russia eating their Chinese pie. Russia offered discounted oil to China after invading Ukraine, which drove Saudis out of their largest market.

This is why Saudis could pump tons of oil into the market to hurt US suppliers that could screw over Russia lol. It's kind of a nightmare for Putin's war money. The Chinese could start buying from Saudis screwing over Russia. This started as the Saudis an OPEC were seeking to get prices up.

 

[Strychnine]

 

[PEB]

Republicans to Putin: let's go we are winning!!! Putler our man keep going! We love Democracies failing.

"
The Kremlin’s spy chief Sergei Naryshkin warned the U.S. that Ukraine will turn into its “second Vietnam,” amid disagreement in Congress over funding for Kyiv.

“Ukraine will turn into a ‘black hole’ absorbing more and more resources and people,” Russian foreign intelligence chief Naryshkin said Thursday in a written statement published by his agency’s house journal, the Intelligence Operative.

“Ultimately, the U.S. risks creating a ‘second Vietnam’ for itself, and every new American administration will have to deal with it,” he added."