International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

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All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

You sound unstable.
Get well soon..
Nobody lied to you, I cant recall you ever been in here before engaging in conversation.
Also maybe get your news from news sites and not a subforum on a karate site...
 
All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

- I didn't lie to you. I altered the reality to fit a narrative:(
@ColemanwastheGOAT is probably laughting at us!
 
Ukrainians face grim reality of a prolonged war with Russia amid battlefield ‘stalemate’

By Svitlana Vlasova, Yulia Kesaieva and Victoria Butenko, CNN

Kyiv, UkraineCNN — For many Ukrainians, a recent somber assessment of the battlefield by Ukraine’s military chief was not a surprise. It’s what they have been hearing in conversations with friends, seeing on social media and experiencing personally on the frontlines as Russia’s war against their country drags on.

Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Valery Zaluzhny said in an interview with the Economist magazine this week that “there will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough” and each day that passes gives the Russians an advantage.

The Ukrainian counteroffensive against Russia is stalled as hard winter looms. Russia still occupies nearly a fifth of Ukraine and front lines are static for the most part while both sides continue to churn through soldiers.

Zaluzhny warned that Russia will “have superiority in weapons, equipment, missiles and ammunition for a considerable time” and that Ukraine needs “new, innovative approaches.”

Ukraine launched a counteroffensive against Russia’s invasion in June, but it has so far failed to gain the momentum needed to turn the tide of the war in Kyiv’s favor.

On Saturday, Igor Zhovka, deputy head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, slammed Zaluzhny for his comments.

“I am sure that everything has been carefully read, noted down and conclusions drawn” by the Russians, he said, adding that he has received calls from counterparts in partner countries “in a panic” asking if the war really is at a stalemate. “Is this the effect we wanted to achieve with this article?” Zhovka said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky disagreed with Zaluzhny’s assessment. “This is not a stalemate. I emphasize this once again. We have already talked about this. This is not some kind of news,” he said in a news conference Saturday with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

Zaluzhny’s straight-to-the-point view offered a rare alternative to the hopeful messages that have become commonplace from Ukraine’s political leadership. Almost every night, Zelensky appeals to the public to keep believing in the country’s potential victory.

But for many Ukrainians, that goal seems elusive for now.

CNN spoke to Ukrainians about the potential for a prolonged war and the hope they still have as the conflict reaches what Zaluzhny called a “stalemate.”

Vitalii Shevchuk’s family members fled to safety, but their home was destroyed under Russian occupation in the town of Hostomel near Kyiv at the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion last year. Those days were filled with terror, he said. The situation may be better now but the truth of where the war stands “must be accepted, whatever it is,” he told CNN.

“There seem to be two realities: one is the optimistic one broadcast by the national telethon,” Shevchuk said, referring to the only official news broadcast jointly conducted by several major Ukrainian TV channels. “The other is about the true reality.”

Shevchuk said that when Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula in 2014 and occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk region that year, the fight seemed distant for many Ukrainians. But now even as the war moves into what Zaluzhny described as “positional warfare,” Shevchuk is convinced it will remain on everyone’s minds.

“I believe in Ukraine’s victory, but we have to take into account the objective reality… As for Zelensky’s positive predictions, they made sense. Because if we all walked around with our heads down, saying that everything is bad, everything is wrong, then eventually it would have happened,” he said. “Zelensky’s role was to raise morale, and if this spirit was not there, what would people have been holding on to?”

Full read: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/04/...-war-with-russia-in-stalemate-intl/index.html
 
Right now would be a terrible time to reach any negotiation talks due to the feeling if the Ukrainians have been weaken and forced into talks due to the absolute f up situations in the US, France and Italy. Do these Fing countries have any sense of history? My father who was a WW2 veteran, Lawyer and a school teacher aways would talk about how Germany posed to cause rise to fascism. The US had similar worries about Russia rise to bring similar sense of danger. This is a freaking bad time and Russia would feel like it finally has taking the hill and Putin would after 600 days of his 4 day war lay claim to Russian people he won even though his military been blasted and his sales to very bad anti democratic countries would increase again. This is Germany all over again except a much larger adversary who wants to bring back the USSR. Talks of any kind should only happen when Russians have waste much of their motivation for continued action it is hard to gage what Russia is feeling but seems like we are close to such a situation giving rise to lets get it done now talk not in the spring.

Lol, this post could have been written this time last year and no one would be able to tell the difference


Said this from the start, told you guys that the west's support would only ensure more destruction and misery. Told you guys 2-3 years ago Ukraine should have made a deal surrendering the Donbas region and recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, while agreeing not to join NATO. Nobody here has any sense though, and you all told me im an idiot and Ukraine would take back the country. I told you that the peace deal was Ukraine's best case scenario.

Instead you all championed for an extended war which destroyed city after city and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

I was right about everything, and you were all too stubborn with your anti russian propaganda to listen

I said from the get go that corrupt oligarchs in both sides (and globalists, including in the US) want this to go on forever so they have an endless supply of money to launder. Meanwhile plebs on both sides die and plebs around the world pay for it through taxes and inflation.

It was last year in the summer CBS first reported that like only 30% of military aid actually makes it to where it is supposed to. You think that isn’t happening to other aid too? We literally paying their pensions and you think someone isn’t just taking a big portion of that cash?

these people are literally laughing in the face of people like @PEB

if they want more money, they can cough back up the 70% they stole and they will have more than 60 billion. We don’t need to pay anymore for it

Clowns were literally saying Russia would run out of ammo, food, and troops by about a year and a half ago. Genius
 
All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

bro, let it simmer a little longer, russia is on the BRINK. A few more videos of ukrani farmers pwning Russia tanks and the Russia people will not be able to take anymore, and will rise up to over throw the Putin body double. And I say body double, because Putin died of COVID brain cancer about a year and a half ago.

trust
 
Ukrainians face grim reality of a prolonged war with Russia amid battlefield ‘stalemate’

By Svitlana Vlasova, Yulia Kesaieva and Victoria Butenko, CNN

Kyiv, UkraineCNN — For many Ukrainians, a recent somber assessment of the battlefield by Ukraine’s military chief was not a surprise. It’s what they have been hearing in conversations with friends, seeing on social media and experiencing personally on the frontlines as Russia’s war against their country drags on.

Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Valery Zaluzhny said in an interview with the Economist magazine this week that “there will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough” and each day that passes gives the Russians an advantage.

The Ukrainian counteroffensive against Russia is stalled as hard winter looms. Russia still occupies nearly a fifth of Ukraine and front lines are static for the most part while both sides continue to churn through soldiers.

Zaluzhny warned that Russia will “have superiority in weapons, equipment, missiles and ammunition for a considerable time” and that Ukraine needs “new, innovative approaches.”

Ukraine launched a counteroffensive against Russia’s invasion in June, but it has so far failed to gain the momentum needed to turn the tide of the war in Kyiv’s favor.

On Saturday, Igor Zhovka, deputy head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, slammed Zaluzhny for his comments.

“I am sure that everything has been carefully read, noted down and conclusions drawn” by the Russians, he said, adding that he has received calls from counterparts in partner countries “in a panic” asking if the war really is at a stalemate. “Is this the effect we wanted to achieve with this article?” Zhovka said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky disagreed with Zaluzhny’s assessment. “This is not a stalemate. I emphasize this once again. We have already talked about this. This is not some kind of news,” he said in a news conference Saturday with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

Zaluzhny’s straight-to-the-point view offered a rare alternative to the hopeful messages that have become commonplace from Ukraine’s political leadership. Almost every night, Zelensky appeals to the public to keep believing in the country’s potential victory.

But for many Ukrainians, that goal seems elusive for now.

CNN spoke to Ukrainians about the potential for a prolonged war and the hope they still have as the conflict reaches what Zaluzhny called a “stalemate.”

Vitalii Shevchuk’s family members fled to safety, but their home was destroyed under Russian occupation in the town of Hostomel near Kyiv at the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion last year. Those days were filled with terror, he said. The situation may be better now but the truth of where the war stands “must be accepted, whatever it is,” he told CNN.

“There seem to be two realities: one is the optimistic one broadcast by the national telethon,” Shevchuk said, referring to the only official news broadcast jointly conducted by several major Ukrainian TV channels. “The other is about the true reality.”

Shevchuk said that when Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula in 2014 and occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk region that year, the fight seemed distant for many Ukrainians. But now even as the war moves into what Zaluzhny described as “positional warfare,” Shevchuk is convinced it will remain on everyone’s minds.

“I believe in Ukraine’s victory, but we have to take into account the objective reality… As for Zelensky’s positive predictions, they made sense. Because if we all walked around with our heads down, saying that everything is bad, everything is wrong, then eventually it would have happened,” he said. “Zelensky’s role was to raise morale, and if this spirit was not there, what would people have been holding on to?”

Full read: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/04/...-war-with-russia-in-stalemate-intl/index.html

Not an easy situation at all and Russia keeps doubling down in Avdiivka. Russian suffering and disregard for their own people is nothing new but they are literally doing whatever it takes to gain ground . The waste of life and armor to get this city is insane but shows how Crazy Russia has become and that Putin is like a raccoon backed into a corner.
 
Wow, even CNN jumping on the bandwagon. Citing the economist and the time article.

CNN, TIME, NBC, and The Economist are basically compromised by the Russian government at this point

 
just defending his countrys national security/interests from nato aggression/expansion and ethnic russians from western backed nazis in donbas...

of course westerners don't really care about ukraine and don't mind sacrificing ukraine and its people just to weaken russia.

You dumb schmuck...if Moscow could join NATO they would apply tomorrow
 
Not an easy situation at all and Russia keeps doubling down in Avdiivka. Russian suffering and disregard for their own people is nothing new but they are literally doing whatever it takes to gain ground . The waste of life and armor to get this city is insane but shows how Crazy Russia has become and that Putin is like a raccoon backed into a corner.

- Russia usually wins wars of atriction(spell?). They get beat around, the oponent gets tired, they pull a roundhouse kick and win.
 
I know he's not the most popular guy but the peace plan initially proposed by fucking Elon of all people seems the most reasonable to me. Russia would never go for that though, that means admitting their "election" may have been shady.
 
There is no possibility of a peace plan. Russia's goal of seizing all of Ukraine, plundering their resources, squashing their national/ethnic identity, and having a stranglehold on the Black Sea and global food supply... isn't going to change. A "negotiated peace" kicks the can down the road until they are able to move on the rest of Ukraine, full stop. There's no negotiation with mobsters. They only understand force. Only thing that will create actual stability is driving Russia out and then getting Ukraine into NATO.
 
- Russia usually wins wars of atriction(spell?). They get beat around, the oponent gets tired, they pull a roundhouse kick and win.
The reality for Ukraine long ago was that they had been ceded to Moscow ....silently and indirectly. West and East.
So now they does want to appease Mr Putin and for Ukraine slowly to loss war cos limited supplies and dumb leadership.
 
bro, let it simmer a little longer, russia is on the BRINK. A few more videos of ukrani farmers pwning Russia tanks and the Russia people will not be able to take anymore, and will rise up to over throw the Putin body double. And I say body double, because Putin died of COVID brain cancer about a year and a half ago.

trust
This reads like an Infographics Show video
 
Good Lord, this one is worth a listen. If huge if true. it’s a Russian officers diary over a couple days trying to take Avdiivka. I was almost in tears from laughter, which it’s messed up, but the narrator killed it haha. Shows Z-armor getting destroyed throughout the whole thing as well.

 
Lol, this post could have been written this time last year and no one would be able to tell the difference




I said from the get go that corrupt oligarchs in both sides (and globalists, including in the US) want this to go on forever so they have an endless supply of money to launder. Meanwhile plebs on both sides die and plebs around the world pay for it through taxes and inflation.

It was last year in the summer CBS first reported that like only 30% of military aid actually makes it to where it is supposed to. You think that isn’t happening to other aid too? We literally paying their pensions and you think someone isn’t just taking a big portion of that cash?

these people are literally laughing in the face of people like @PEB

if they want more money, they can cough back up the 70% they stole and they will have more than 60 billion. We don’t need to pay anymore for it

Clowns were literally saying Russia would run out of ammo, food, and troops by about a year and a half ago. Genius
People said the same things about Ukraine. Obviously those people were wrong on both counts
 
Yesterday Latvian State Treasury had confirmed that they will partially warrant for Ukr 4 loans packages. Ukr had get money after 1 hour.
Almost 100m ....
 
Lol, this post could have been written this time last year and no one would be able to tell the difference




I said from the get go that corrupt oligarchs in both sides (and globalists, including in the US) want this to go on forever so they have an endless supply of money to launder. Meanwhile plebs on both sides die and plebs around the world pay for it through taxes and inflation.

It was last year in the summer CBS first reported that like only 30% of military aid actually makes it to where it is supposed to. You think that isn’t happening to other aid too? We literally paying their pensions and you think someone isn’t just taking a big portion of that cash?

these people are literally laughing in the face of people like @PEB

if they want more money, they can cough back up the 70% they stole and they will have more than 60 billion. We don’t need to pay anymore for it

Clowns were literally saying Russia would run out of ammo, food, and troops by about a year and a half ago. Genius
Yea we remember your crappy thread about the CBS report. The entire thing was based off some unnamed operative in Ukraine that obviously had no idea where the aid was all going.
 
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