International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[Ruthless Ryan]

Said this from the start, told you guys that the west's support would only ensure more destruction and misery. Told you guys 2-3 years ago Ukraine should have made a deal surrendering the Donbas region and recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, while agreeing not to join NATO. Nobody here has any sense though, and you all told me im an idiot and Ukraine would take back the country. I told you that the peace deal was Ukraine's best case scenario.

Instead you all championed for an extended war which destroyed city after city and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

I was right about everything, and you were all too stubborn with your anti russian propaganda to listen

none of what you say is going to happen and UKR will def join Nato .The UKR people dont want to surrender and would rather die then live under Russian occupation awaiting their next future invasions. However the situation is very difficult for UKR as they have to pick their poison and fight on.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russian strategy is criticized for leading to repeated mistakes
Several Russian military bloggers criticize the Russian military command, writes the Institute of the Study of War (ISW) on Friday evening.

One of the points is that the most competent soldiers and commanders are sent to the most dangerous front lines instead of training new soldiers.

In addition, the generals and officers who get the teaching positions do not have practical experience from the battlefield that they can pass on, it says.

All in all, it constitutes a wrong strategy, which they believe needs to be changed at a systemic level in order not to repeat the mistakes made before at the front line."

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/live/udland/2023-11-04-seneste-nyt-om-krigen-i-ukraine

I'm sure a lot of these mistakes are from orders from the top demanding results. Putler's mental state must be insane as what has happened in the last year and a half watching his army slowly get destroyed, rouble falling big time and the loss of income with all the sanctions.
Still amazes me these troops still get in their armor or in open field and march forward into certain death.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

none of what you say is going to happen and UKR will def join Nato .The UKR people dont want to surrender and would rather die then live under Russian occupation awaiting their next future invasions. However the situation is very difficult for UKR as they have to pick their poison and fight on.

How is none of what I say going to happen? It has already happened, literally. Please don't speak for the children and grandmothers of Ukraine while hiding in your basement, campaigning for a never ending war. You don't speak for anyone. Of course Zelensky will say this, he's a coward, a liar, and a con man.

 

[SandisLL]

Said this from the start, told you guys that the west's support would only ensure more destruction and misery. Told you guys 2-3 years ago Ukraine should have made a deal surrendering the Donbas region and recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, while agreeing not to join NATO. Nobody here has any sense though, and you all told me im an idiot and Ukraine would take back the country. I told you that the peace deal was Ukraine's best case scenario.

Instead you all championed for an extended war which destroyed city after city and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

I was right about everything, and you were all too stubborn with your anti russian propaganda to listen

I don't know what stuff you had posted in War Room 3 years ago I didn't had used on regular basis and I had supported Putin ... till he had invaded in Ukraine again. Your spreaded nonsense about Kremlin worried about NATO or EU is total bullshit. If Russia didn't had invaded then during next 4-6 years Ukraine in best had some small loans from EU and tons with lectures....Also current government didn't had been re elected in next elections. They de militarized Ukraine in reality plus if wanted to join EU should had to implement some EU standards.....leading to higher expenses and more close supervision...

I really regret that I had supported Putin before this war.........
While I don't deny that I had supported Putin because I had hope that Putin will be smart leader.
Even when Covid shit had started I had assumed that Putin is good leader.

While unlike you I do know European Realpolitik and therefore know that Ukraine had 0 chances to join EU or NATO during next 4-6 years.......
Only an idiot can't see this reality.

 

[grimballer]

Said this from the start, told you guys that the west's support would only ensure more destruction and misery. Told you guys 2-3 years ago Ukraine should have made a deal surrendering the Donbas region and recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, while agreeing not to join NATO. Nobody here has any sense though, and you all told me im an idiot and Ukraine would take back the country. I told you that the peace deal was Ukraine's best case scenario.

Instead you all championed for an extended war which destroyed city after city and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

I was right about everything, and you were all too stubborn with your anti russian propaganda to listen

obviously the goal was never for ukraine to win, but use ukraine with comedian puppet in charge and try to weaken russia as much as possible.

this strategy backfired and now western nations are dealing with consequences

 

[Andy Capp]

western countries no longer pretending to be against nazism and fascism...

https://www.rt.com/news/586544-un-resolution-nazism-west/

RT... lol

How tastes Putin's peepee?

 

[Andy Capp]

obviously the goal was never for ukraine to win, but use ukraine with comedian puppet in charge and try to weaken russia as much as possible.

this strategy backfired and now western nations are dealing with consequences

The strategy of Putin starting a war? Brilliant manoeuvre.

 

[grimballer]

RT... lol

How tastes Putin's peepee?

i already answered the other idiot making same idiotic point...

you got anything to say about western nations not condemning nazism/fascism?

 

[Andy Capp]

i already answered the other idiot making same idiotic point...

you got anything to say about western nations not condemning nazism/fascism?

I think you have your geographical references wrong.

 

[grimballer]

The strategy of Putin starting a war? Brilliant manoeuvre.

just defending his countrys national security/interests from nato aggression/expansion and ethnic russians from western backed nazis in donbas...

of course westerners don't really care about ukraine and don't mind sacrificing ukraine and its people just to weaken russia.

 

[grimballer]

I think you have your geographical references wrong.

you mean people in dagestan (muslims) being mad about what's going on in palestine?

what happened to them afterwards?

you're grasping at straws kid

whats next? you gonna bring up the puppet comedian being jewish as "evidence" of them not being nazis and ignore all the guys in ukraine army with nazi tattoos?

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

How is none of what I say going to happen? It has already happened, literally. Please don't speak for the children and grandmothers of Ukraine while hiding in your basement, campaigning for a never ending war. You don't speak for anyone. Of course Zelensky will say this, he's a coward, a liar, and a con man.

Tell that to the people who have been raped and murdered under Russian occupation, the UKR people by a high % dont want to surrender, thats' from polls not me speaking .

 

[AWilder]

The StarCraft general has resurfaced lmao

 

[Andy Capp]

just defending his countrys national security/interests from nato aggression/expansion and ethnic russians from western backed nazis in donbas...

of course westerners don't really care about ukraine and don't mind sacrificing ukraine and its people just to weaken russia.

lol

To stop NATO expansion?
" In 2022, NATO signed protocols with Finland and Sweden on their accession following the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine applied for membership in 2022. Finland joined NATO on 4 April 2023."

Brilliant strategem.

 

[Richmma80]

All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

 

[Richmma80]

You fucks made it sound like Ukraine was doing so well they were on their way to Moscow to kill Putin

 

[Blayt7hh]

All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

Man on a site with a lot of dumb posters, you actually might be the stupidest. For real every thread I see you start you seem confused and unable to understand the lost simple information.

Wtf is going on anyways? There’s been no major developments in months and now we have all these people acting like Ukraine just surrendered

 

[Richmma80]

Man on a site with a lot of dumb posters, you actually might be the stupidest. For real every thread I see you start you seem confused and unable to understand the lost simple information.

Wtf is going on anyways? There’s been no major developments in months and now we have all these people acting like Ukraine just surrendered

No, you dipshit

It means either you fucks have been LYING or being LIED to

If you see a video of Russians getting bombed, you post the video. You post the article. If you see Russian media posting Ukraine tanks bombed, it's "Russian propaganda"

 

[Limbo Pete]

The StarCraft general has resurfaced lmao

He requires more minerals

 

[TheGreatA]

All you dumb shits lied to me

For like 2 years now you motherfuckers have been posting NOTHING but videos of Russian tanks and soldiers getting droned

Russia literally running out of soldiers

Russia running out of food

And now all of a sudden, Ukraine is losing? Are all you fucks paid shills by the US government paid to post Ukraine propaganda?

It's more of a military stalemate. Neither side has the capacity to make any gains. Ukraine could still opt to wage a war of attrition in the hopes that the climate in Russia will turn against the war eventually, causing them to fall back like they did from Afghanistan, but it will cost them a lot of good men.