International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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So Dagestani's are passionate about their fellow Muslims (commendable), but they need a Ukrainian to teach them that they're against what is happening in Palestine?

Yeah, nah.

What a load of shite, mate.
Also imagine Ukraine having time/resources to pull 4D chess moves in Dagestan to make Israel look even more under attack, when Israel conflict is in fact stealing focus/spotlight from Ukraine's conflict (despite Ukraine still being by far the one who most needs help)
 
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I'm wondering why there is so much more engagement and media coverage of the Israel/Hamas situation than Ukraine?

Ukraine is the one who needs far more help and many more people have died there.

Jewish lives are the most important in the Western media and Palestinian lives are the most important in Muslim media.

So when you have Jews and Palestinians killing each other you have nearly 2 billion Muslims getting pissed at Israel and roughly 1 billion Westerners angry about it.

On the other hand the Ukraine conflict only angers the people that care about Democracy.
 
I'm wondering why there is so much more engagement and media coverage of the Israel/Hamas situation than Ukraine?

Ukraine is the one who needs far more help and many more people have died there.
It’s old news and people have short attention spans. It’s also been pretty stagnant with no big success on either side which makes it hard to report on
 
Russia historically is Ukraine and modern Russians are Muscovites and this isn't insult. Kiev had founded Moscow and now is " eating outcome ".
 
It’s old news and people have short attention spans. It’s also been pretty stagnant with no big success on either side which makes it hard to report on

When the Ukraine war first started, it still didn't get as much media engagement as the Israel situation. This Israel Hamas thing is dominating the headlines.
 
Jewish lives are the most important in the Western media and Palestinian lives are the most important in Muslim media.

So when you have Jews and Palestinians killing each other you have nearly 2 billion Muslims getting pissed at Israel and roughly 1 billion Westerners angry about it.

On the other hand the Ukraine conflict only angers the people that care about Democracy.
There is a bit more than this.
New Axis in form of Belarus plus Iran and Russia together with North Korea in fight for hegemony in multi polar world.
Ofc will attempt to form empire and negotiate with China.
So there might be 2 poles: Russia as China's vassal state despite partners and Other World.....
Most likely like this.
 
China now does have approx 15 X more money etc than Russia and approx 10-11 more potential for total mobilisation if compare with Russia.
Also they are very important rare earth metals and lithium suppliers for Russia.
While cos China doesn't have sanctions they easily might import coal, crude oil, LNG etc from any country.

Some easily to Google up resources had calculated that China on crude oil supplies alone had saved approx 9-12 b USD$ because were able to press for discounts ....
 
I'm wondering why there is so much more engagement and media coverage of the Israel/Hamas situation than Ukraine?

Ukraine is the one who needs far more help and many more people have died there.
Journalism is made of vultures that fly to most recent carcass as new make higher views, Israel conflict is more new so..

When the Ukraine war first started, it still didn't get as much media engagement as the Israel situation. This Israel Hamas thing is dominating the headlines.

Consider also USA is deeply linked to Israel/Jews, plus Hamas attack being of the terrorist kind probably make american people remember 9/11 and increase revenge desire

Last seems to me USA seems far more willing to engage there
 
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The biggest mistake Ukrainian politicians are doing is to talk today about reconstruction costs Ukraine is excepting to get from EU taxpayers.

So please don't be surprised about too low assistance from EU and STFU. ASAP.
The same 60+ b package might had been from ECB IF Ukr idiots didn't had talked about 1xx b EUR they are excepting to get from EU for Donbas and Luhansk oblastj rebuilding alone....after war..
So for financial reasons alone for EU better is to allow Russia to annex these areas and to let Russian taxpayers to pay this bunch of bills.
Realpolitik.
 
Russia will succeed in Ukraine unless American support continues, warns US defence secretary – as it happened


Lloyd Austin ‘guarantees Putin will be successful’ if US support for Kyiv ends during Senate hearing on Joe Biden’s request for funding. This live blog is closed

The US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, has said that Russia would be successful in Ukraine unless the US’s support for Kyiv continued, Reuters reports.

“I can guarantee that without our support Putin will be successful,” Austin said during a Senate hearing on President Joe Biden’s request for $106bn to fund plans for Ukraine, Israel and American border security.

“If we pull the rug out from under them now, Putin will only get stronger and he will be successful in doing what he wants to do,” Austin added, sitting next to US secretary of state, Antony Blinken.

Mitch McConnell has offered a strong endorsement of the White House’s $106bn aid proposal to Israel and Ukraine, saying he and the president were essentially “in the same place” on the issue.

McConnell, the powerful Republican leader in the Senate, has rebuffed some of his GOP colleagues in the Senate who have called for a package separating assistance for the two countries, saying it would be “a mistake”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ssia-bulks-up-forces-around-bakhmut-says-kyiv
 
I'm wondering why there is so much more engagement and media coverage of the Israel/Hamas situation than Ukraine?

Ukraine is the one who needs far more help and many more people have died there.

- Because the war-hawks will make far more money and milk that war for decades,
 
The Isolation of Volodymyr Zelensky

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he faces an uphill battle to maintain support for the fight against Vladimir Putin's forces amid growing fatigue within the international community toward the wars there and in the Middle East.

In an interview for Time magazine that appeared on the same day U.S. House Republicans introduced a bill that excluded military funding for Kyiv, Zelensky said: "The scariest thing is that part of the world got used to the war in Ukraine."

Since the start of Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. has provided Kyiv with more than $76 billion in aid. However, cutting that support has become a GOP presidential campaign catchcry, as President Joe Biden struggles to ensure continued U.S. backing for Kyiv, with funding for Ukraine excluded from an emergency bill aimed at preventing a government shutdown.

The article cited unnamed members of Zelensky's inner circle describing despondency at the lack of battlefield progress, the inability to curb corruption in Ukraine and the president becoming more isolated in his belief that Kyiv can still prevail.

In response to the sentiments expressed in the piece, a former Ukrainian soldier told Newsweek: "It's time for Zelensky to admit reality, stop being in denial, and act accordingly," while a former British diplomat denied Western public support for Ukraine was on the wane and said that "wobbliness in wartime is usual."

On Monday, the White House warned the GOP against "politicizing national security," after House Republicans, led by Speaker Mike Johnson, unveiled a $14.3 billion spending bill for Israel for its war against Hamas, in a plan which left out aid for Ukraine.

After taking office, Slovakia's newly elected prime minister, Robert Fico, pledged to stop delivering weapons to Ukraine, while Hungary has also delayed tranches of aid, although the EU has pledged it will continue its support.

Zelensky told Time "we will lose," when asked during a visit to Washington in September by senators what would happen if the U.S. didn't give Kyiv the aid he was seeking.

Zelensky, who was lauded in global capitals after the war started, got a more muted reaction in Washington last month, and told the publication: "As soon as they start to get a little tired, it becomes like a show to them: 'I can't watch this rerun for the 10th time.'
"I don't think Ukraine can allow itself to get tired of war. Even if someone gets tired on the inside, a lot of us don't admit it. Nobody believes in our victory like I do."

Time quoted an unnamed member of his inner circle saying that Zelensky felt betrayed by his Western allies, while another said that Kyiv was "out of options...not winning—but try telling him that."

In June, Ukraine launched a counteroffensive with the aim of recapturing Russian-occupied territory, although Kyiv's allies, which provided arms, have expressed concern at its slow progress so far, which has been admitted by Zelensky.

Defense analyst Viktor Kovalenko, a former Ukrainian soldier, told Newsweek that unlike the optimism prevailing in the first year of the war, many of Zelensky's supporters "aren't ready to accept that Ukraine is running out of options to expel the Russian occupiers from all its territory in 1991 borders."

Kovalenko said that the second year of the war demonstrated that Zelensky "became a hostage of his own maximalist approach," and that Ukraine had stopped the aggressor upon which it had inflicted heavy losses and that the country has been preserved as an Eastern European democracy.

"This is already a victory for a small country, and it's well enough to be proud of. I think it's time for Zelensky to admit reality, stop being in denial, and act accordingly," he said.

Full read: https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-time-interview-zelensky-isolation-war-funding-weapons-1839548
 
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The stuff is that Zelensky is delusional and westerners too are dumb like they were with Hitler in 1938 th.
Russia in reality wants all Ukraine but without Ukrainians..
So for small steps even part of Ukraine to be captured till next war episode will be good and nice tool to make western idiots to think that it is their behalf for long term.
While for Russia to establish Russian World Hegemony Is core here and Ukraine is like Sudetia for Hitler. 1938.
 
West are proven as weak losers and liars so for Ukraine better had been flowchart to be pro Kremlin and anti western oriented country and to be incorporated in Russia and after this slowly to destroy Russia from inside.
Instead they opted to be cheap resin and are damn a lot responsible for loud talks and actual de facto de militarization of Ukraine during 30 years in row.
 
The same tanks.
Ukraine in 1991 the had more than 4000 main battle tanks. Something between 4000 and 4200.
In 2022 the February they had just something between 800-900 on paper in working condition.
 
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