International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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grimballer said:
youre conditioned to dismiss any news that doesn't go along with msm narrative...

yeah, youre a clown
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lsa said:
Here we go once again.
Nothing but rants, nothing to back it up.
Confused and angry, brainwashed

Now now... Dont lie
"you compare that to "well theres nazis in russia too""
I only brought up Russian Nazis when you claimed Russia was denazifying Ukraine...
Once again you scream about nazis, but it seems only Ukrainian nazis count. Not the Russian ones. Btw Russian nazis fought in Donbass in 2014..
But lets not talk about that...

You are good little brainwashed soldier for papa Stal I mean Putin.

The name calling tells me you are triggered.
I know its hard to defend your lies,
But keep trying, its sad and entertaining.
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yeah, i shouldn't be name calling cause you're naturally dumb and can't help it. its not your fault...

here you're comparing apples and oranges

one size has nazis in the government and they were used in western backed coup and fighting in donbas

you compare that some guys who join russian side that might have nazi views

that like saying

"americans had kkk members in ww2 so when they fought nazi germany in reality it was nazis against other nazis"

how can you be this dumb?
 
Bojka said:
There isn't much point in blaming a dictator who is a well known psychopath. It's called being pragmatic. I said what I had to say about Putin at the start of the war. He doesn't believe his own words and I don't take his justifications for the war the least bit seriously. That doesn't change the fact that it's a waste of breath to bother with condemning him. People on here condemn Putin mostly to rationalize their delusional self-righteousness despite celebrating the conscription and corrupt leadership in Ukraine.
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I dont think anyone here is celebrating conscription. It's a necessity for survival you dont appear to understand that, not everyone wants to take a knee to Putin.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
I dont think anyone here is celebrating conscription. It's a necessity for survival you dont appear to understand that, not everyone wants to take a knee to Putin.
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Yeah and that's called a luxury belief. Anyone who is against concessions to avoid (now further) bloodbath is free to volunteer. Including those from the west as western interests are at stake too.
 
Bojka said:
It isn't even just about the principle that everyone should be subject to the same rules. It's more about how it would fundamentally change the decision making of those in power if their own loved ones were at stake. I think Zelensky would be a little more willing to cede 1 inch if members of his own family were fighting. It would have probably even affected the initial negotiations. The decision making becomes too dysfunctional and unethical when those in charge are insulated from the negative consequences of their decisions.

It would be like having residents of Martha's Vineyard make decisions related to border control. Those most against illegal immigration are those from border towns because they are the ones most affected by it. These luxury beliefs are inevitable and residents of Martha's Vineyard sang a much different tune once illegal immigrants started showing up in their own neighbourhoods.

The only way I would be more supportive of conscription is if the loved ones of the ruling class were evenly subject to it since it would prevent the complete disregard for Ukrainian life that we have seen throughout the war.
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So some elites may have sent their kids away. Because of this you are in here telling everyone that you’re the one who actually cares about Ukrainians and not us. All the while you encourage them to draft dodge and leave their neighbors to their fates at the hands of the Russian invaders. Yeah you care so much about those Ukrainians that you think healthy men should run instead of defend their neighbors from Russian Soldier that are raping and stealing children.

And you want to call people stupid? You’re full of shit and that’s why you didn’t offer any real response to my post. You have none.
 
Bojka said:
Yeah and that's called a luxury belief. Anyone who is against concessions to avoid (now further) bloodbath is free to volunteer. Including those from the west as western interests are at stake too.
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You are rude and don't know ppl you are talking with here.
Nor their age nor health condition nor ammount of tax ppl posting here had paid and ofc also nothing about donations they had did on voluntary basis.
 
I agree that I too was wrong when evalued some ppl posting about war in ukraine.
For example I was wrong with one lad posting about Ukraine because I didn't knew that he before 2022 th had lost his job because had been diagnosed as diabetic.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Taking care of your "loved ones" sounds nice and everything but you would take a knee to Putin and kiss his hand while ceding whatever land you would. Do you know who Vlad Putin is? Would you take his word that whatever land you hand him would satisfy him? I dont think you understand the reality of this situation and you are using feelings over reality.
It's a little more blunt then that , UKR either stands and fights or they lose their country and live under Russian rule. If there was ever a time for a draft in history it is now in UKR, no man should be able to sit at home playing starcraft while others are sacrificing everything because "they dont want to"
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bruh, just stop it.

stop acting like you have any idea who "vlad putin" is.

your script is tiresome. you ask ppl if they think ukraine should surrender, as if it's the worst thing the in world to consider and then get upset if they do.

your opinions are trash, stop spreading them everywhere and put them where they belong.

you don't do anything in the real world that matters enough to speak on these things with any authority. if you did, would you be in this thread and the hundreds that came before it?
 
More people will be declared fit to serve it seems, asymptomatic HIV , blood diseases and short term mental disorders does not sound good from that list

This will hit ukrainian marines and paras hardest since their standards have been relaxed



https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2023/09/402nakaz.html?m=1
 
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Cole train said:
More people will be declared fit to serve it seems, asymptomatic HIV , blood diseases and short term mental disorders does not sound good from that list

This will hit ukrainian marines and paras hardest since their standards have been relaxed



https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2023/09/402nakaz.html?m=1
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Learning from Wagner, what's wrong now?
Mental problems doesn't mean that guy can't operate assault rifle with underbarrel grenade launcher and to use RPG-7, hand grenades and machine gun. Why not, even mortar.

Also expenses to maintain mental clinics will reduce.
 
Now they're forcing people with HIV and the mentally ill to fight. Tremendous. Does this sound like a country who going to be able to win a war vs Russia long term? I don't have a dog in this fight despite what some may say, but these people are being sacrificed to die to fight a war they can't win while Zelensky and other Ukrainian elites grandstand with no skin in the game. People with no skin in the game should not being making life or death decisions for others.
 
Cole train said:
More people will be declared fit to serve it seems, asymptomatic HIV , blood diseases and short term mental disorders does not sound good from that list

This will hit ukrainian marines and paras hardest since their standards have been relaxed



https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2023/09/402nakaz.html?m=1
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they're running outta foreign mercenaries, old people and teens it seems

but its k, dorks in warroom reassured me ukraine is winning!
 
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