International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[San Marino]

Shut up clown Marino. You’re a joke now.

<Lmaoo>
That is right.
"I can feel the anger inside of you. Let the hate take control of you. Join the 'Dark Side' with your little friends."
Shit talking is what you guys are really good at. It is what keeps this thread going.
Numbers in the Peanut Gallery are growing. You are doing a great job recruiting.
Keep the hate alive little Blayt.

 

[Denter]

Thank you, my friend. You are not the only one on my side. A few others that choose to remain quiet on the wings.
It is always the same 7 to 9 idiots who don't have a life and love to talk about me. "The clapping seals." Giving each other 'likes.'
Insults and ridicule. Off-topic, derailing, and trolling, but nothing ever happens. A lot of pent-up hate and anger. That is for sure.
I hate bullies and stupid bullies in particular. Give them some of their own medicine.
Others taking credit for having accomplished nothing. Not proven a thing.
It is what keeps this thread going since Ukraine is now losing. Ukraine's Vietnam. Win battles but lose the war.
I want to see this to the end. Whoever wins.
Just imagine a Russia and Trump win in 2024. Some of these guys will have a meltdown.
Sad really. Ukraine could have avoided this conflict going back to 2021, but both Ukraine and folks in this thread refuse to accept this reality.

I think it could have been avoided but it would have to go back earlier than that, a whole long series of steps by the US (and Russia) led to this situation.

 

[San Marino]

You do realize he linked your posts which are dated right?

Yes.
@Isa did not prove shit. He only thinks he did.
Out of the 6 posts he referenced from me, none said that Ukraine would lose this war.
I talk about Ukraine losing lots of soldiers, lack of replacements, that does not equate to Ukraine losing this conflict.
Well, it does now. If there was a doubt 12 months ago, there is no doubt today.

 

[The Diplomat]

Its really sad that the communists are so desperate for anything resembling the soviet union that they to shill so hard for putins russia

Communists should prefer western liberalism over eastern fascism. Atleast in the modern age, as it isn't the 50s or 60s anymore. They have more leeway, and won't get shot or hung for their beliefs.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I think it could have been avoided but it would have to go back earlier than that, a whole long series of steps by the US (and Russia) led to this situation.

Really ? like what ? how could have Putins ass been kissed before?

 

[The Diplomat]

Yes.
@Isa did not prove shit. He only thinks he did.
Out of the 6 posts he referenced from me, none said that Ukraine would lose this war.
I talk about Ukraine losing lots of soldiers, lack of replacements, that does not equate to Ukraine losing this conflict.
Well, it does now. If there was a doubt 12 months ago, there is no doubt today.

You specifically kept mentioning "Let's see how they are in 12 months!" with the context of them losing.

They haven't lost. Now you're saying "Let's see how they're doing in 12 months!"

You must see how tedious this is. And yet, I appreciate you. *boop*

 

[MeatWagon06]

This shit is wild. An inside look at Ukrainian drone factories. There were only 4 when the war started and now there are over 80. The innovation is insane.

It's going to be a straight all out drone war come wintertime.

 

[San Marino]

Is Russia winning this conflict? How fast are they being replaced? Why did they have to recruit in Cuba if they have this mass population? Why are they now not allowing rotation any more during this war? I'm sure they are having their own recruitment issues as they know they are being sent to die. Can they keep mobilizing people? And at what cost?

Yes, I believe Russia will win this conflict in the end. The Russian replacement is going faster than the Ukrainian replacement and they have only touched on roughly 20% of their male population. Dead Cubans are better than dead Russians as far as the PR campaign is concerned. Neither side has allowed rotations in this conflict. Rotations understood as going back home for 6 months. Yes, Russia can keep mobilizing people for as long as it takes. Ukraine cannot. Hence the reason why they will lose this conflict. Russia does not give two-shits about their casualties. They (Soviets) lost roughly 20 soldiers for every 1 American killed in WWII. Russia has gone too far, spent too much, and lost too many people to let Ukraine win this conflict. Ukraine does not have the same luxury.

* By the way, congratulations! Good questions without insults or ridicule.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Yes.
@Isa did not prove shit. He only thinks he did.
Out of the 6 posts he referenced from me, none said that Ukraine would lose this war.
I talk about Ukraine losing lots of soldiers, lack of replacements, that does not equate to Ukraine losing this conflict.
Well, it does now. If there was a doubt 12 months ago, there is no doubt today.

Lmao he dunked all over you and everyone saw it. Talk about RKO out of nowhere…

You just make it worse for yourself by trying to fight it what is clearly an open in shut case. That case being “Is Clown Marino full of shit?”.

buh buh buh peanut gallery
<Oku02>

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine's Vietnam? Ukraine is the one getting invaded you jumbo sized ass.

Wait, so North Vietnam did not invade South Vietnam? This coming from the guy with a master's degree in history.
As I recall, we Americans were fighting on the side of the South, and we still lost. How is that possible? We were the #1 Army in the world.
Shit! We (Americans) went on to lose in Iraq and Afghanistan with the #1 Army in the world again. How is that possible?

 

[DEVILsSON]

I am somewhat shocked Russia is essentially acknowledging losing 230k soldiers. Those are enormous losses.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/230-000-certificates-requested-russia-125603472.html



230,000 certificates requested in Russia for families of fallen veterans

Spoiler

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230,000 certificates requested in Russia for families of fallen veterans
Ukrainska Pravda
Mon, September 18, 2023 at 5:56 AM

Russia’s Ministry of Labour has requested 230,000 certificates for family members of deceased combat veterans and over 750,000 certificates for combat veterans, which is several times more than before (such documents are to certify that a person took part in combat – ed.).

Source: Russian media outlet Vyorstka

Details: Journalists who examined documents on the state procurement portal discovered that Russia’s Labour Ministry has ordered 230,000 certificates for "family members of deceased war veterans, participants in the Great Patriotic War and combat veterans", as well as 757,305 combat veteran certificates, worth over RUB 79 million (US$817,411 – ed.) in total.

The procurement tender foresees that 200,000 certificates for family members of deceased soldiers will be distributed to Russia’s Defence Ministry and 30,000 to the Ministry of Social Protection. Moreover, the Defence Ministry plans to distribute 600,000 printed combatant certificates: 86,805 to the Ministry of Social Protection, 60,000 to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 10,000 to the National Guard, and 500,000 to the Ministry of Construction, Housing and Utilities.

Quote from Vyorstka: "This is several times more than before. In May, the Labour Ministry ordered almost 100,000 certificates for combat veterans to be printed, and over 23,000 certificates for family members of the deceased.

Last summer, the Labour Ministry signed a contract for the printing of over 82,000 blank combat veteran certificates and nearly 6,000 certificates for family members of deceased soldiers."

More details: Vyorstka says that in total, since the beginning of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian Ministry of Labour has ordered 936,052 certificates for combat veterans. Since June 2023, certificates for family members of deceased soldiers have been issued to volunteers’ families as well as to the families of regular army soldiers.

Background: Information from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of 18 September confirms that nearly 272,940 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
"

 

[Limbo Pete]

Wait, so North Vietnam did not invade South Vietnam? This coming from the guy with a master's degree in history.
As I recall, we Americans were fighting on the side of the South, and we still lost. How is that possible? We were the #1 Army in the world.
Shit! We (Americans) went on to lose in Iraq and Afghanistan with the #1 Army in the world again. How is that possible?

Ukraine didn't invade itself you big idiot

 

[San Marino]

You specifically kept mentioning "Let's see how they are in 12 months!" with the context of them losing.

The context of them losing? Where?
There is no context of them losing, only if you put it there.
It is your interpretation of what I wrote.
Let us see how they are in 12 months means exactly that. They could be doing well, they could be doing poorly.
The ability you people have to assume things is amazing.

 

[Hog-train]

Not likely.
○ These howitzers are replacement for howitzers Poland already had SENT to Ukraine. Poland paid for them, Ukraine had paid 0 to Poland.
● Poland can't afford to deplete their weaponary and actually is increasing their weapons stockpile
□ Poles aren't kurds! N.B they aren't naive and don't trust anyone.

I really can't see South Korea doing nothing at all if North Korea gets nuclear, ICBM, submarine or satellite tech from Russia. That's what North Korea is looking for in exchange for artillery and missiles. That's a huge deal for South Korea.

At the minimum, you can expect South Korea to lift the ban on other countries sending their weapons to Ukraine. What does that entail? A lot more 155 MM artillery rounds - precisely what Ukraine needs the most.

They could possibly even send Ukraine direct aid.

MOST IMPORTANT THING.
Relationships between Ukr and Poland currently is in level that Zelensky should pray Lord each day that Poland will not close border with Ukraine totally.

I highly doubt Poland will close the border and not help Ukraine just because of a grain deal.

The entire purpose of Poland modernizing their military and becoming the largest land army in Europe is because of Russia. Russia is their #1 threat and right on their doorstep. And Ukraine is the one that is fighting them.

Poland would be self sabotaging themselves if they don't help Ukraine. Same goes for all the other Eastern European countries that were previously in the Soviet sphere.

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine didn't invade itself you big idiot.

I never said they did dumbass.

 

[San Marino]

Lmao he dunked all over you and everyone saw it.

He didn't do shit! Did you read my reply to his post?
Who is everyone? Your little stupid friends in the Peanut Gallery? The ones you keep high fiving ang giving likes to?
Why do you even bother to write to me? Just fuck off and put me on ignore.

 

[San Marino]

Your closer to 20 and if that many people don't agree with you there might be a reason.

How about the number of those that do agree with me? Did you factor that into the equation?
Might be a reason? Absolutely. They are all idiots.

 

[San Marino]

That even Russia, which kept some really uneconomical and old defense plants can't produce anywhere near enough shells for a war like this. Even two million per year is only like 6-7000 per day.

...but little Kim is coming to the rescue. The only fat boy in all of North Korea.

 

[Darkballs]

He didn't do shit! Did you read my reply to his post?

Buddy,

He clearly quoted you, 15-months ago, saying that Ukraine was gonna run out of people in 12-months.

You were clearly wrong then.

You claim to have been an US Army officer, then fucking act like it. Take your L and move on you little crybaby.

 

[San Marino]

That's the difference between someone like you and Mr. S3 operations, you can freely admit your predictions were off the mark. Nothing wrong with admitting to making a wrong prediction. It shows integrity when you can own up to your mistakes big or small.

You must have missed the 3 times I said I was wrong in this thread. One recently relating to North Korean Howitzers. Ask @GhostZ06 about that. I've even admitted to being wrong to @Limbo Pete in this thread. Oh, I'll admit to being wrong when I'm wrong. The stuff you are referring to I was not wrong and there is nothing to admit. You, however, have not owned up to when you were wrong. No integrity.