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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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PEB said:
Well Analog devices, Texas Instruments an a total of 25 companies continued selling powerful microcontroller chips to Russian suppliers of their advanced weapon systems. Time to close up shops an move technologies to companies who follows orders. We need to send a message to these aholes. It was over 1/2 a billion dollars.
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This yeah.
However stuff is even worse.

Missiles like Thocka - U technically Russia is capable to manufacture with local components produced in Russia and with tech level from 1988 th. Nothing wrong, specifications will be the same.

Kalibr mainly uses 1998-2002 th era FPGA chips etc so it is not easy to monitor....
It isn't chips manufactured xxxxx per 1 year.....
It is... damn.

However for some missiles models looks that they really needs more modern stuff easier to monitor due to low number of such chips produced....

Kalibr is easy to shot down and still it is very difficult to spot and detect + this shit looks that is most precise missile Russia does have.
 
Anewt said:
That's fucked up. But come on now ones a article ones a video. That was literally embed itt.
I said footage like that doesn't make me happy. Not anything more. along with Russia has done similar and worse.

If you can listen to that child's screams and find it makes you happy because Russia deserves it... you do you. I personally find no happiness in it.
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Right, except one is an article that tells you point blank that 6 people died(and that number could still rise), 1 of them 10 year old child, and many more were injured. The other is of a random woman screaming(we also have no idea if that was an authentic video or just an easily created video for small shock value). I honestly did not see anything in that video that shocked my conscience. An empty building got hit after a drone's navigation got jammed.

No, I don't take pleasure in people dying. I probably know more people living in Moscow than you(unless you're actually Russian and live there with family). I have distant family still living in Russia as well as close family friends. So clearly I don't want them to live in a war zone. However Russian people must feel and see what Ukrainians are dealing with on a daily basis.
 
DEVILsSON said:
Right, except one is an article that tells you point blank that 6 people died(and that number could still rise), 1 of them 10 year old child, and many more were injured. The other is of a random woman screaming(we also have no idea if that was an authentic video or just an easily created video for small shock value). I honestly did not see anything in that video that shocked my conscience. An empty building got hit after a drone's navigation got jammed.

No, I don't take pleasure in people dying. I probably know more people living in Moscow than you(unless you're actually Russian and live there with family). I have distant family still living in Russia as well as close family friends. So clearly I don't want them to live in a war zone. However Russian people must feel and see what Ukrainians are dealing with on a daily basis.
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You definitely would know more people not just in Moscow but that entire region. I know donut. Nor even any australian russian immigrants Ditto for all ethnicities in that region.

If that child / woman was acting they are pretty good at vocalising fear.

For me hearing someone in terror ( or seeing someone in terror ) will always create a far more visceral response than words on my phone.

Reading about a shark attack doesn't particularly bring the same response ( for me ) as seeing a person in terror and screaming for help. ( during a shark attack)

Does it make the Russian dronre more tragic than Ukrainians lives not at all. As I said.. It doesn't make me happy.

It's quite amazing how many attacks I've gotten for. " that doesn't bring me happiness " ( in regards to a video of someone in terror,
and "'Im aware Russia has done similar and worse...."

This thread is honestly ludicrous at times
 
DEVILsSON said:
Right, except one is an article that tells you point blank that 6 people died(and that number could still rise), 1 of them 10 year old child, and many more were injured. The other is of a random woman screaming(we also have no idea if that was an authentic video or just an easily created video for small shock value). I honestly did not see anything in that video that shocked my conscience. An empty building got hit after a drone's navigation got jammed.

No, I don't take pleasure in people dying. I probably know more people living in Moscow than you(unless you're actually Russian and live there with family). I have distant family still living in Russia as well as close family friends. So clearly I don't want them to live in a war zone. However Russian people must feel and see what Ukrainians are dealing with on a daily basis.
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Russian society is like rude cocky 15 y.o HS bully on pills and alco together with friends taking lunch money from some 11 y.o.
If stuff isn't going as planned, then it is " bad thing and illegal etc. ".
Ofc Putin's regime is milking stupid westerners fear that better is to keep current regime in Kremlin and Ukraine, sorry, for West or East is secondary stuff, small resin amortisator taking collateral damage.
Dumb society with huge natural resources and dying out white slavic population %, dreaming about to be superempire with help from Belarus, Iran and North Korea.
India, Pakistan and China just are watching and milking situation, Brasil most likely in reality are looking on them as idiots should be milked.
Like this realpolitic.
 
We really might help idiots to get their own medicine.

More than this, journalists are worse than bith**es and I just now get that old time slogan that journalist is more dirty than prostitute from hood is reality. Also there isn't term " independent journalist ( pro***te ).
All they are worse than prostitutes.

Authorized cluster ammunition was 152 mm and 155 mm artillery shells.
Not " bombs ".
Prostitutes doesn't care. $ = God.
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While 520 days bunch with cheap prostitutes didn't had any problem with cluster bombs used against just ukr ( russians usually refer about them as ukrops and chohols ).
 
Strychnine said:


Gen. Petraeus sounds off and is impressed with what he's seeing from the Ukrainians.
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China is freaking out over Zelensky's statements about heading to Moscow using drones. No doubt this maybe a bridge to far for China. But China perfectly happy with the Russia wholesale bombing of pretty much every area of Kyiv and surroundings.
 
PEB said:
China is freaking out over Zelensky's statements about heading to Moscow using drones. No doubt this maybe a bridge to far for China. But China perfectly happy with the Russia wholesale bombing of pretty much every area of Kyiv and surroundings.
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Ofc China is happy and will be even regardless from outcome of war in Ukraine.
China already had won this war 520 days in row each day.
Investments...
China is getting them more, russia 0.
Trade?
China is purchasing with discounts and selling for higher price than before war.
China is accumulating more precious metals and $, russia is spending their stocpkile and manpower.
Everything according to gameplan.
Mandarin speakers in siberia more and more feel need to be protected from nazis and oppression and their number is increasing each day...
DeRusification of Siberia and protection for mandarin speakers in Siberia is slowly turning into essential task should be done sooner or later.
 
Next painful thing for ukraine....
The same grain transit via Poland.
Yeah, Poland even remowed transit fees while it is supposed as transit not to sell grain in Poland.
Ukr billionaires are selling some % of transit grain in Poland for cheap.
Ukr sometimes is portraying Poland's actions as bad etc and portraying like all world should be thankful etc....
 
Ukraine's " homework " in air defense field . Chapter No1 real life.
1992-2023.
In 1992 th Ukraine had more than 100 then obsolete Kub launchers and they simply let them to turn into peaces of rust.

Poland and Czech republic too had these and they had refubrished and upgraded this stuff.
Ofc it is outdated and obsolete stuff but if with upgraded radar and some other upgrades, still in some cases is usable.

Now Ukraine get some stuff of these...
Cos Ukr own stuff long ago was peace of rust.
 
Next chapter.
Reality.
In 1992 th Ukraine had more than 600 S-125 launchers. :)
Instead to upgrade them and radars...they let all this to be turned into peaces of rust.
Even some african countries had upgraded this stuff.

Ofc S-125 even upgraded always will be obsolete museum exponat...

However if they had better radars and upgraded system.
At least IF placed in the same Kiev oblastj ;) they might be usable vs these iranian motorbikes...
 
Next chapter about homework in air defense.
Ukraine and Belarus had joint project to create Stilet as better replacement for OSA SAM system.
Trials were successful and system was better than OSA modernised versions.... while below Pantsirj results. Still cheap....

2012 th.
2012-2022 th Ukr did 0 homework....
While might had produced such sruff 10 years in row...

If placed in the same Kiev oblastj such stuff might be problem for Iranian " motorbikes " and in some cases for Kalibr type cruise missiles too...
Also closer to frontline ofc such stuff might be problem for Su-34, helicopters etc.
While short range system with range approx 20 km and ceiling 10 km.
 
Stilet description in english had been posted long ago.
For example en.missilery.info

Most likely cos then had intents to export such stuff.
2010 th.
 
Poland had recieved first batch of HIMARS and some MRLS launchers from South Korea.
I think especially South Korean stuff might help to deNazify if they will have necessity to do this.
 
If about reluctance to supply ATACMS, I have only 2 variants: $ because here are a lot of orders...
2 nd variant is that U.S does in reality want for Russia to take some peace of Ukraine.
Sorry for reality.

F-16 is different world.
No1 is stuff for U.S.
No2 is stuff for NATO countries.
No3 is stuff for other customers.

Diff mainly in electronics and comm devices...

I don't see any POTUS, be this Trump or Biden to sign permit export to Ukr F-16 with 100% avionics& electronics for NATO. Not alone with 100% electronic equipment like for U.S.

So Ukr should wait until stuff for 3 rd tier customers ( non NATO countries ) will be awailable.
Or existing stuff will be downgraded till such level.
 
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