International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V11

[San Marino]

. Bakhmut has not fallen yet.
. Special Forces (US) don't kick doors down.
That would let people know you are there now, wouldn't it? We usually sneak in the back.
. SOF units in Ukraine are retired soldiers.

 

[Cole train]

I doubt there is a genuine need for the type of door kicking SF types at the moment. We could always get some there quick, as could some of our allies, if there was a need.

I'm assuming that the bulk of our nonconventional forces actually in theater, are more guys that are coordinating the targeting data with the US. That's most likely the big "no one talk about this", SF-thingy we've got going on that we can't just blatantly rub in the russian's faces. The US has the capability to watch virtually the whole combat theater and share that information really quick with the Ukrainians. I wouldn't be surprised if it's along far enough to where we can just ring a certain command hub and let the Ukrainians know that whomever has X weapons system capable of hitting gird coordinate 12345, then they should probably send a round or two right now.

I think that kind of cooperation would be much more likely and infinitely more lethal than a team of commandos.

Think you are correct since i remember russians saying last year main reason the blitz failed was due to us intelligence, knew their troop movements exactly hence ukrainians knew.

Agree on no need for kick doors down spec ops type as well, ukrainian spec ops can handle that fine on their own(all that recon/sabotage/ambush behind enemy lines stuff)

Would have to be really heavy mission to send west spec ops like SAS in and risk exposure like assasinate shoigu or something

But im not war general so i can always be wrong lol

 

[curryjunkie]

Think you are correct since i remember russians saying last year main reason the blitz failed was due to us intelligence, knew their troop movements exactly hence ukrainians knew.

Agree on no need for kick doors down spec ops type as well, ukrainian spec ops can handle that fine on their own(all that recon/sabotage/ambush behind enemy lines stuff)

Would have to be really heavy mission to send west spec ops like SAS in and risk exposure like assasinate shoigu or something

But im not war general so i can always be wrong lol

i didnt say they were kicking doors in, most SAS ops are reconnaisance , the glamour stuff is just what is reported because it sells papers. their tactical knowledge and training is far more useful.

 

[PEB]

 

[Strychnine]

DAMN.

 

[Yehudim]

Bakhmut going to fall any day now.

Two more weeks.

 

[Yehudim]

Beheading video up, think rus cutting ukr guys head off since victim has yellow armband

Will likely hit reddit soon

Edit yup its up on ukraine/russia report

Dont recommend looking its messed up

Remember at the beginning of the war when some people said Russia would be hesitant to bomb Ukrainian cities and commit atrocities because…they’re Slavic brothers or some shit?

 

[MTT]

Remember at the beginning of the war when some people said Russia would be hesitant to bomb Ukrainian cities and commit atrocities because…they’re Slavic brothers or some shit?

They wouldn't accept being saved by Russia due to NATO brainwashing. Therefore, all of this is now necessary. A taste of things to come under Russian hegemony.

 

[7even]

Beheading video up, think rus cutting ukr guys head off since victim has yellow armband

Will likely hit reddit soon

Edit yup its up on ukraine/russia report

Dont recommend looking its messed up

I was praying that a sniper round was going to blow that fucker’s head off while he flex to the camera.

 

[SandisLL]

Sorry if already posted

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065

The presence of Western special forces in Ukraine has been the subject of quiet speculation for more than a year. But it's never been confirmed, until now.

The US Department of Defense is still dealing with the consequences of one of the largest leaks of classified material in recent years, most of it relating to the war in Ukraine.

The documents, some marked "top secret", paint a detailed picture of the war, including highly sensitive details of Ukraine's preparations for a spring counter-offensive against Russian forces.

One document has piqued widespread interest.

It says that the UK is among a number of countries with special forces operating in Ukraine. According to the document, dated 23 March, the UK has the largest contingent (50), followed by Latvia (17), France (15), the US (14) and the Netherlands (1).

This IMHO absolutely is fake info....

The stuff is that intelligence info and even instructions might be given when " instructors " aren't located in Ukraine....
With training the same: it might had been done in west and ukr NCO or officer sent back to Ukr....

_/
Majority of such info IMHO is to confirm russian propaganda agenda that " we are fighting vs all NATO " etc bullshit.

BTW if someone in reality does knows where for example NATO european air defense HQ are located....still might normally serve the same Germany despite located not in Germany....physically...

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Ofc Ukr might hire some former specialists ( retired ) from different countries + some of volunteers might be retired pros...

Btw also agenda that west of Ukraine is full with " western spec ops " is ridiculous story....

& ofc there aren't by simple logic any doubts that west and east is full with different agents and spies, info gathering specialists etc etc...
While not likely dressed in uniforms or camouflage....most likely spies are looking like casual civilians...

Especially funny is claim that Latvia might had sent 17 spec ops pros to Ukr even in peacetime.
Due to stuff that their relationships with ukr actually irl aren't good + they can't easily sent ppl to non NATO country...
They didn't stuff like some countries with pros deploy in Iraq or Afganistan... even now with Kosovo peacekeeping mission. AFAIK even this isn't enforced thing: if pro guy doesn't agree, he isn't stationed in the same Kosovo.


+ they need spec ops ppl for their own country cos they does have land border with Belarus and Russia.

 

[Dalarna3]

Still waiting for that spring offensive...Especially with the new gear.

 

[Rational Poster]

Still waiting for that spring offensive...Especially with the new gear.

All real discussion I've seen on this is late April-May.

 

[aries]

I said UK special forces were there last year almost certainly , and some posters cast doubt on that, I'm sure the numbers fluctuate but it's obvious they are giving advice and help with operations amongst other countries, Ukraine didn't just magically get better at war on their own.

Yeah same it was pretty obvious. The tactics the Ukrainians have been using are straight out of NATO Special Forces textbooks.

 

[aries]

What does operating mean though? I think they’re probably just doing training and advising missions

They will be acting as advisors. They are the brains of the operations. No need to put them at risk.

 

[Dalarna3]

Sorry if already posted

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065

The presence of Western special forces in Ukraine has been the subject of quiet speculation for more than a year. But it's never been confirmed, until now.

The US Department of Defense is still dealing with the consequences of one of the largest leaks of classified material in recent years, most of it relating to the war in Ukraine.

The documents, some marked "top secret", paint a detailed picture of the war, including highly sensitive details of Ukraine's preparations for a spring counter-offensive against Russian forces.

One document has piqued widespread interest.

It says that the UK is among a number of countries with special forces operating in Ukraine. According to the document, dated 23 March, the UK has the largest contingent (50), followed by Latvia (17), France (15), the US (14) and the Netherlands (1).

Low double digit advisors seems like an insufficient amount unless they are doing something other than advising.

 

[GhostZ06]

Denmark has said that, together with its allies, it will decide “before the summer” as to whether they will provide Ukraine with the fighter jets the country has long been campaigning for. During a visit today to Ukraine, Troels Lund Poulsen, Denmark’s acting defense minister, confirmed that the matter was under discussion but that the process was taking a long time due to the requirement for different countries to cooperate on any such transfer of aircraft.
Denmark is the latest country to put itself forward as a possible candidate in Ukraine’s long-running search for new Western combat jets. According to figures from Flight Global, the Royal Danish Air Force currently operates around 43 upgraded F-16AM/BM fighter jets — a type that been repeatedly mentioned in relation to Ukraine’s requirements and preferences — which are due to be replaced beginning in the near future by 27 F-35A stealth jets.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...denmark-to-decide-by-summer-on-f-16s-for-kyiv

One main trajectory for the F-16 upgrades has been with regard to air to ground weaponry. The Danes now have a robust arsenal of air to ground weapons which include, GBU-49/GBU-54, GBU 12/24, GBU-31 v1/v3, and GBU-38/39 and the aircraft carries a 20mm gun as well.

The air-to-air side has not been as robustly upgraded which follows the course of the Danes doing focused investment on the core threats against which they are operating. For air-to-air missions they use the AIM-120B (AMRAAM), medium-range active missile, the AIM-9X Sidewinder, a high of bore sight short range missile and the M61A1 20mm gun.

As a fourth generation aircraft, upgrades have been done in a federated manner in which case by case upgrades have been done. A number of sensors have been added in this manner, most notably the Litening G4 (ATP) pod that has provided both laser guidance to weapons, as well as secure video down and up link capabilities.

A key element of working integration has been through the Helmet Mounted Cuing System or HMCS. The HMCS has provided a significant improvement in operational capability as it provides for both air to air and air to ground sensor fusion.

The Danes have clearly evolved their F-16s as part of the broader F-16 coalition to achieve much greater multi-mission capability.

https://defense.info/defense-system...yal-danish-air-force-and-its-f-16-experience/

https://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article3.html
here are the specs on the F-16AM



they have a fuck tone of F-16s Jesus Christ. Them and Norway, but they are capable of Aim-120Ds and Aim-9X capable

 

[Rod1]

they’re Slavic brothers or some shit?

 

[SandisLL]

Slavic brothers who demanded deUkrainization of Ukraine ( shit had been posted in RIA Novosti and supported by ruling political party United Russia. This fachism manifest exposed United Russia and russian state media & Kremlin so deeply that even crazy Putin ordered to delete this nazists statement. Still it is easy to google up and is possible to use web archieves and free translation software to translate this nazi statement from rus to english... ).
Basically also ofc it isn't small proxy war....
For West Ukr is just cheap amortisator not even true " partner "...Wtf Ukr had dreamed about? Welcome to reality....
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While for Russia and China most likely as best outcome had been such scenario: Ukr gov running to relocate from Ukr, Ukr is taken quickly, puppet and russian forces are installed and then Moldova is next meal in restaurant to annex or install puppets + ofc armed forces for exercises....
Then Georgia and Armenia on the table as next meals like in fast food " restaurant "...
While China when had to see this, had more free hands to demand West to allow them to annex Taiwan.
New world order had been introduced quickly....
Then these empires already today had expanded even more.

Btw for Rus invasion in Ukraine is responsible west because they multiple times in row had ceded Ukraine to russia and only an idiot can't see reality....also ofc comrade Xi.
Both: China and West in reality allowed invasion to happen....
With stuff that they did in reality....
Biden too allowed this, Germany, France, U.K and China too....

Big empires and small not important Ukraine as toy ceded to Russia.Sorry for reality.

 

[SandisLL]

If supplies Ukr had / will recieve in reality are stuff listed in open mass media ( I don't mean here some rumoured channels in chats and telegram etc ) THEN...
For Ukr better is not to do counter offensive and stop play to be cheap toy for all world.

Whit this IF ( and only IF ) all will be done properly: installed fortifications and minefields, trenches and anti tank fortifications etc.. MAYBE will be enough in BEST case to prevent ruSSias advance....nothing more.
Also it is a bit dumb not to see reality that West and East always will treat russia as 1 st class " partner " and ukr as 3 rd tier country.
Especially China, Germany, France, Israel and Switzerland and U.S.

So Ukr should prepare for defense and that they will not win at all.
They will be forced to cede part of Ukraine to russia....anyway.
From all sides btw.

If Russians aren't really dumb, then Ukr offensive will be like for russians was Severodonetsk, Soledar etc graveyards...with very huge losses in technique and manpower for attacking forces.
At least I hope that Ukr will prefer to bypass cities and not do crazy stuff like russia did...
One thing is to shell city from distance: there you might get even 0 casualities if will be very lucky.
Another thing is to install ground forces in city....where really might be this 3:1 - 10:1 casualities ratio for attackers.
Not alone that in city fight easily might happen that 1 defender will appear that might be able to kill/ damage some bunch with attackers in 1 minute ....bobby traps and mines too is cool stuff + if indirect fire with mortars is added... & some fortifications installed....
no comments....

 

[Cole train]

https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...T&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com

Passed last night