International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V10

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

I'll add that most of the same people here criticized me for my views on the pandemic, when it turned out I was right about basically everything. You all said the same things to me that you are saying now. That's not to say I'm right about everything, just that you should take my opinions more seriously and stop being so closed minded.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

You are the one and only person on here that i am convinced is truly trolling.
There is no way a legit person is behind these posts and your autistic ramblings in the Mayberry.
You're either trolling or you've got some real DNA deficiency

You can only reply with petty insults, you bring nothing of substance to any post. No matter how many times you call me autistic, an idiot, etc, it doesn't make it true. I am FAR smarter than you will ever be, that is a fact.

 

[lsa]

You are the one and only person on here that i am convinced is truly trolling.
There is no way a legit person is behind these posts and your autistic ramblings in the Mayberry.
You're either trolling or you've got some real DNA deficiency

Its not him posting its the Russian hackers that hacked his PC.

Well I think I have. There is really no other reason I can think of for the things that have been happening. My gut tells me that it's the same Russian hackers as before, as some of the things that have happened are similar to the last time. This time they are not letting me find their files though, if there are any that were placed here. I can't find any concrete evidence this time, just things that make me suspect it's happening. I'm still convinced there is someone or a team of people who have some kind of motive or agenda with my computer.

 

[Limbo Pete]

If it was sincere it would be a different story, but it's a scam to enrich the global elite, financial institutions, weapon contractors, etc. Let's be honest, the US does not care about Ukraine citizens. The agenda is clear.

Quick, someone get Zelensky on the phone pronto! He needs to know that the Americans are really, uh, insincere or something. Point is, he should give all the guns and bombs back now or else the globalists will... uh... well I don't know what their scheme is but it's just not ethical for Ukraine to get help.

 

[Rholk]

Its not him posting its the Russian hackers that hacked his PC.

Lmao just exactly stuff like this.
There is no way a real person is behind those pathetic stories about trying to bang his co-workers.
Dude is a legit troll.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Lmao just exactly stuff like this.
There is no way a real person is behind those pathetic stories about trying to bang his co-workers.
Dude is a legit troll.

Can we stay on topic? There are posters here who know it's true btw, I have shared things.

 

[lsa]

Lmao just exactly stuff like this.
There is no way a real person is behind those pathetic stories about trying to bang his co-workers.
Dude is a legit troll.

 

[lsa]

Can we stay on topic? There are posters here who know it's true btw, I have shared things.

Yes lets..
What about that source on your claim:
"American bombings hit the wrong targets 90% of the time."

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

If it was sincere it would be a different story, but it's a scam to enrich the global elite, financial institutions, weapon contractors, etc. Let's be honest, the US does not care about Ukraine citizens. The agenda is clear.

All you are is a simple conspiracy theorist. Everything must be a conspiracy to prove you are really in the "know" and the rest of us just get our info from MSN. It's impossible for you to understand this whole war is actually more simple then you make it out to be, like do you think its possible Putin did this invasion because he is trying to do a major land grab while trying to restore the Soviet Union like he has always wanted to???. Or did the globalists start this to line their pockets?

 

[Orgasmo]

Snips from the interview:
- He brokered a tentative peace deal back in March 2022 and Ukraine and Russia came close to ceasefire
- Putin promised not to kill Zelensky
- Ukraine will drop attempt to join NATO
- Russia will drop demand to disarm Ukraine
- Johnson, Macron, Scholz and Biden vetoed the deal stating Russia needs to be punished. Johnson was the most belligerent followed by Biden. Macro and Scholz were on the pragmatic side.

Former prime minister Naftali Bennett said in a video published Saturday that Russian President Vladimir Putin assured him, in the early days of the war, that he wouldn’t kill Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Bennett said he called the Ukrainian president immediately after the three-hour encounter with Putin, and told him, “I’ve just come out of a meeting — [Putin] is not going to kill you. “[Zelensky] asked me, ‘Are you sure?’ I said 100 percent. [Putin’s] not going to kill you.”

Bennett recalled: “Two hours later, Zelensky went to his office, and did a selfie in the office, [in which the Ukrainian president said,] ‘I’m not afraid.’”

According to Bennett, Putin also agreed not to demand the disarming of Ukraine and that same weekend, Zelensky dropped his push for Ukraine to join NATO. (In September, Zelensky called for Kyiv to receive fast-tracked NATO membership after Russia formally annexed four Moscow-held regions of Ukraine.)

Bennett also said that “everything I did [in the mediation effort] was coordinated with the US.”

At the time, the meeting was Putin’s first sit-down with a foreign leader since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. Bennett was accompanied on the trip by then-housing minister Ze’ev Elkin, who acted as a translator and adviser.

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-putin-assured-me-at-moscow-meeting-he-wouldnt-kill-zelensky/

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[aries]

The US has killed thousands of civilians in bombings in the past 20 years, silencing the media from talking about it unless it's such a big incident that they have to address it. Pretending to care doesn't mean anything, you don't care, and you never have. Stop pretending to be the good guys, you're the bad guys.,

Absolute garbage. And I'm not American but the Russia body count of innocent civilians in all places they've been involved in during the last 20 years is far far higher than all of the West combined. Georgia, Chechnya, Syria and now Ukraine.

You know when Russian Special Forces only killed 130 hostages in the Moscow theatre crisis they claimed it as a success? Can you imagine any NATO special ops team crowing about only killing 25% of the people they are supposed to rescue? When they 'successfully' neutralised the terrorists in the Beslan school siege, 186 children died because they attacked the school with tanks, grenade launchers and flamethrowers.

Russia and NATO attitudes to collateral damage are not even in the same galaxy let alone ballpark. In Russia human life is cheap, whether it's their own citizens or the enemy and it's been that way for well over 100 years.

 

[Richmma80]

This is treason

 

[Belaya Smert]

If anyone knows how to broker peace it’s the Israelis.

 

[AWilder]

Snips from the interview:
- He brokered a tentative peace deal back in March 2022 and Ukraine and Russia came close to ceasefire
- Putin promised not to kill Zelensky
- Ukraine will drop attempt to join NATO
- Russia will drop demand to disarm Ukraine
- Johnson, Macron, Scholz and Biden vetoed the deal stating Russia needs to be punished. Johnson was the most belligerent followed by Biden. Macro and Scholz were on the pragmatic side.


Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-putin-assured-me-at-moscow-meeting-he-wouldnt-kill-zelensky/

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You know greyzone is a Russia propaganda arm, right?

 

[Orgasmo]

You know greyzone is a Russia propaganda arm, right?

You know this is published by Times of Israel and attached with full interview with Bennett himself right? Does everything not painting the West in a positive light has to be RuZZian propaganda to you?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Snips from the interview:
- He brokered a tentative peace deal back in March 2022 and Ukraine and Russia came close to ceasefire
- Putin promised not to kill Zelensky
- Ukraine will drop attempt to join NATO
- Russia will drop demand to disarm Ukraine
- Johnson, Macron, Scholz and Biden vetoed the deal stating Russia needs to be punished. Johnson was the most belligerent followed by Biden. Macro and Scholz were on the pragmatic side.


Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-putin-assured-me-at-moscow-meeting-he-wouldnt-kill-zelensky/

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Full Interview (Long)

"Putin promised not to kill Zelensky."

 

[AWilder]

You know this is published by Times of Israel and attached with full interview with Bennett himself right? Does everything not painting the West in a positive light has to be RuZZian propaganda to you?

Nope not everything is Russian propaganda, but greyzone is Russian propaganda so I will take anything from them with a bucket of salt.

 

[Hog-train]

I bring the correct perspective to this forum which is clearly lacking, I am the only voice of reason here. I am calling it as it is. Americans still can't wrap their heads around the concept of the military industrial complex and the real reason they are involved in so many wars. You need to wake up and see reality, it's not about helping Ukraine, it's about enriching the global elite. Just as the pandemic was not about global health, it was about expensive government contracts for vaccines. This situation isn't much different. The globalists will continue to use global conflict to enrich themselves, at the expense of everyone else.

You're not some "genius" that is the only person who knows about the military industrial complex dude. I have disagreed with every single US war in my lifetime - except this one.

If the military industrial complex is making a lot of money in this war... so be it. This war is WORTH IT. It's literally a totalitarian regime vs the entire free world. If we DIDN'T do something, that would be completely immoral.

In addition to the fact that it's the right thing to do are other reasons:

1. We gave them security assurances in 1994 that after they gave up their nukes.
2. We are mitigating future conflicts with Russia and it's neighboring countries. Something that will have a far higher price tag if we don't nip it in the bud.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

And would you believe it if "Putin promised" ?

 

[Orgasmo]

Nope not everything is Russian propaganda, but greyzone is Russian propaganda so I will take anything from them with a bucket of salt.

I see you conveniently ignored the entire Times of Israel and full interview from Bennett to insist on the "Russian propaganda" narrative. Propaganda does work best on those with wilful blindness.