International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V10

[Belaya Smert]

With every Arab country? They are still being bombed by Lebanon and Syria. Iran plans to destroy Israel in the near future.
Much of what has been accomplished has been accomplished with US help.

*It was meant sarcastically, I’m an asshole btw.

 

[Rod1]

I bring the correct perspective to this forum which is clearly lacking, I am the only voice of reason here. I am calling it as it is. Americans still can't wrap their heads around the concept of the military industrial complex and the real reason they are involved in so many wars. You need to wake up and see reality, it's not about helping Ukraine, it's about enriching the global elite. Just as the pandemic was not about global health, it was about expensive government contracts for vaccines. This situation isn't much different. The globalists will continue to use global conflict to enrich themselves, at the expense of everyone else.

Im pretty sure most doctors treat patients to get paid and wouldnt do it for free.

Ill still be glad to be treated by a doctor if i am sick.

You are correct the US cares little about civilian deaths in foreign countries, that doesnt changes the fact that helping Ukraine is a good cause

 

[aries]

Im pretty sure most doctors treat patients to get paid and wouldnt do it for free.

Maybe in the US. Our doctors in the UK don't do it for nothing but they could earn far more practicing privately. Saving lives is still a vocation first in most countries thankfully.

 

[Blayt7hh]

There is something wrong with you man.

I love how he puts a positive spin on the Russian rapes because in his mind at least they’ll report their raping

 

[Err]

I love how he puts a positive spin on the Russian rapes because in his mind at least they’ll report their raping

 

[SandisLL]

This resource grab war covered with propaganda excuses for mainstream media consumers really looks that actually is done to grab land and resources.

This will allow Russia to have higher impact in global scene and easier to negotiate with Iran, Turkey and China.

While Ukr is poor country, their natural reasources for mining industry aren't just coal.

Salt production: they before war had produced considerably more than Russia... vuala...
Therefore to deNazify salt mines is tool considerably rise Russia's impact in global salt market...
Besides coal and iron ore + salt, they does have a lot of other resources for mining industry.
Moldavia doesn't looks that is interesting from financial point.....while It will gave more tools to pressure west and help to control/ pressure Ukr.
Also for PR purposes for population in Russia. Ofc it isn't Crimea and still will increase Kremlin's propaganda effect on russians....
Crimea they annexed exactly for propaganda reasons: unlike mainland Ukr, Crimea is food importer, relying on imported coal, fuel and actually is very poor area, former pearl of tourism for russians in USSR era...

 

[PEB]

This is interesting MIT invented a way to greatly reduce the noise out of a drone. Should 3D print a few of these to send to Ukraine to test? I likely getting in over my head lol.

 

[Anewt]

The guy that releases the bomb is the last one in the chain to be blamed. He (she) is going by what the computer or relay team is saying.
How are Americans bombings wrongly hitting their targets 90% of the time? Are you referring back to WWII? We now have 'smart' bombs and laser guided bombs (from the ground).

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.htm

Significant civilian casualties occurred in the air war in Iraq despite the use of a high percentage of precision weapons.

Many of the civilian casualties from the air war occurred during U.S. attacks targeting senior Iraqi leaders. The United States used an unsound targeting methodology that relied on intercepts of satellite phones and inadequate corroborating intelligence.).

The use of air-delivered cluster bombs against targets in or near populated areas also contributed to the civilian death toll, although to a lesser degree. As detailed in the ground war chapter of this report, ground-delivered cluster munitions were a major cause of civilian casualties, while air-delivered cluster weapons caused a relatively small number of civilian casualties.

. The most egregious was the flawed targeting of Iraqi leadership. While to a lesser extent than in other recent conflicts, U.S. and U.K. air forces also used some cluster bombs in or near populated areas. Attacks on certain civilian power facilities caused additional civilian suffering, and the legality of attacks on media installations was questionable.

The aerial strikes on Iraqi leadership constituted one of the most disturbing aspects of the war in Iraq for several reasons. First, many of the civilian casualties from the air war occurred during U.S. attacks on senior Iraqi leadership officials. Second, the intelligence and targeting methodologies used to identify potential leadership targets were inherently flawed and led to preventable civilian deaths. Finally, every single attack on leadership failed. None of the targeted individuals was killed, and in the cases examined by Human Rights Watch, local Iraqis repeatedly stated that they believed the intended targets were not even present at the time of the strike.

Of the fifty aerial strikes against Iraqi leaders, not one resulted in the death of the intended target. Yet in four strikes researched by Human Rights Watch, forty-two civilians were killed and dozens more were injured.

It's definitely not a 90% miss rate. If we include all targets like the media and civilian power infrastructure.. is that considered a miss? Or a hit?

Depending which way you want to go. In terms of hitting Iraqi leadership. Once again. Depends on you if you count that a miss or hit.

Doesn't particularly matter if you're accurate but the information is incorrect. Well to me. Like that poor family on Afghanistan withdrawal.

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[SandisLL]

It is annoying that some ppl again and again are posting about Iraq and how bad US and UK.

Russia today is using cluster bombs, also cluster ammo for MRLS launchers like Grad, Uragan, Smerch is norm since USSR times...
+ Grad and Uragan 122 mm and 220mm missiles almost all models produced are unquided...and fired in salvos.

Funny how precise in ground to ground mode air defense missiles like S-300 complex missiles might be?
Russia does have them damn a lot and uses them in role for what Thocka ballistic missiles are designed...
To hit ground targets...

 

[Strychnine]

Even though Bahmut doesn't have strategic value, I heard a large part of the reason for resistance there is because of the heavy death casualties Ukraine is dealing out. Weaken Russia as much as possible before they can mobilize with the modern weapons and a counter offensive.

Like the battle for Bunker Hill in the U.S. revolutionary war (The U.S. LOST that battle), the U.S. commanders said something to the effect of "I wish we could lose all of our battles like we lost Bunker Hill, because we'd win this war in no time."

The British just fed men into the human lawnmower, and the U.S. kept it going until it ran out of gas and had to go back to the garage.

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[Orgasmo]

By the sound of artillery volume, seems like Wagner is getting some major fire support from the Russian army. This is where they took the clip, which is very close to the city centre.

 

[GhostZ06]

also it just confused here, UK is giving the Ukraine's storm shadow cruise missiles. Was that true?

still waiting to hear about that since those will be probably used on the bridge

 

[IDGETKTFO]

This is interesting MIT invented a way to greatly reduce the noise out of a drone. Should 3D print a few of these to send to Ukraine to test? I likely getting in over my head lol.

I would find it hard to believe Ukraine isn't already using drones that are as quiet as they can possibly be. There is probably a trade off of how quiet they can be and how much weight/payload they can carry.

 

[Source]

I love how he puts a positive spin on the Russian rapes because in his mind at least they’ll report their raping

Quite possibly the most bizarre grandstanding I have ever seen.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I love how he puts a positive spin on the Russian rapes because in his mind at least they’ll report their raping

I mean what do you even say to someone like that

 

[Denter]

What did you guys think about the former Israeli foreign minister basically corroborating the story posters like @San Marino have been saying about the western powers squashing a potential deal in the early stages of the war?

 

[Rholk]

What did you guys think about the former Israeli foreign minister basically corroborating the story posters like @San Marino have been saying about the western powers squashing a potential deal in the early stages of the war?

I see it beeing quoted from somewhere, can't really find it in his interview tho
(https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-putin-assured-me-at-moscow-meeting-he-wouldnt-kill-zelensky/)
Here he even says he coordinated efforts with the US
So i'd like to read in what context this happened, is there a bigger article out there?

 

[the big marmot]

casualties according to mossad

This is sounding like the Paraguay war in the 1800s when the dictator refused to surrender to brazil and sacrifice the ENTIRE male population of the country. They had to marry boys to adult women to keep the ethnicity alive. Zelensky is sacrificing all the male adult population fit to combat.

 

[Orgasmo]

One thing I noticed in the past 8 months is the fact that Ukrainians are putting new weapon systems supplied by NATO into use as soon as they arrive.

- Javelin/NLAW
- M77
- HIMARS

Going by this pattern, it's safe to say Ukrainians received training for at least several weeks/months before receiving the weapons. With talk of F-16, I would not be surprised if NATO has been training Ukrainian pilots for a while now.