International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V10

[Limbo Pete]

putin was "provoked" not to mention the classic "deNazification"

14,000 dead in the Donbas!

 

[PEB]

Another former Marine fighting for Ukraine talks about the life expectancy of a fighter due to the huge advantage Russia has in ammo and artillery. This really is a war for the ages and democracy hangs in the balance. Others like China waiting to see if NATO breaks.


"
(KYIV, Ukraine) — The average lifespan on the frontline of the fierce fighting in the city of Bakhmut is “four hours,” according to an American fighting side by side with the Ukrainian army against Russian forces in the Donbas.

Former U.S. marine Troy Offenbecker, of Michigan, told ABC News that the situation in the city, which has seen some of the deadliest fighting since Russia’s full-scale invasion, is “chaotic” and has been dubbed “the meat grinder.”

“It’s been pretty bad on the ground,” he told ABC News. “A lot of casualties. The life expectancy is around four hours on the frontline.”

For months, Russian forces have been trying to encircle the city, but have been met so far with fierce Ukrainian resistance, so far denying the Kremlin a symbolic victory ahead of the anniversary of the invasion.

“[The artillery] is nonstop,” Offenbecker, who fights with the International Legion, a military unit made up of foreign fighters, told ABC News. “[Russia] have maybe run into a shortage of shells lately, but the past couple of weeks it’s been nonstop. All day and night.”

Ukrainian officials have said they believe Russia’s long-awaited offensive has already begun, but the assault has been complicated by heavy losses of personnel, equipment and logistical challenges.

“With the amount of shelling, the amount of armor that they’ve brought in, I think it’s started,” he said. “It’s just hard because the winter hasn’t been as cold as it usually is. They can’t move as much armor as I’m sure they would like to with the ground.”

The city has been the site of some of the bloodiest fighting since the war began. According to Offenbecker, “quite a few” civilian families remain in the parts of the city not yet taken by Russian forces, despite an order to evacuate last week.

“A lot of these families are poor,” he said. “They don’t have anywhere to go… even if they wanted to. So the reality is there still are a lot of civilians that are stuck in the middle of this.”"

https://www.myclallamcounty.com/202...fighting-in-bakhmut-says-fighting-is-chaotic/

 

[SandisLL]

About fall of USSR it really is fun.
Socialist and pro Kremlin oriented writer was president of Estonia 1992-2001 and everyone knows that he was Andropov's friend .....

" If you want to continue to have life with soap stamps for you and your kids...then vote for Kremlin ".
Soap stamps were not charity.
These stamps were just to confirm your rights to buy for real money soap and powder for washing machines in retail stores...for real money in real physical cash in form of bank notes and coins...

So Imagine how cool was Kremlin with their idiotism?

 

[Day Drinking]

They might sit in corner and admit that their real influence in world scene de facto is below Pakistan's level if they agree to admit this reality....then OK....

In what way? It's not like any country can invade the UK. no nuclear armed country can be invaded. That's the point of having them.

 

[San Marino]

Not smart enough to know the facts/reality of this conflict.

You are smarter than most who post here.

 

[SandisLL]

In what way? It's not like any country can invade the UK. no nuclear armed country can be invaded. That's the point of having them.

Well but how about real hegemony?

British economy is in huge dependence from international and financial & insurance markets.

If someone will manage to cut off this ....U.K will get default de facto....
Etc.
So in order to fold U.K into peaces there isn't real necessity to fight physically...

Folding is easily doable without any physical actions like to fight in war.

 

[SandisLL]

For example in my area closest construction materials production factory de facto is owned by germans and credited by U.K and U.S banks.
It is world scale brand developed during 164 years in row.

 

[Rational Poster]

14,000 dead in the Donbas!

Near half of which were Ukrainian military, and the other half separatist forces armed by Russia (and some Russian "volunteers"), some 3000 were civilians. That includes the civilian and government aircraft the rebels were shooting down with Russian Buk missiles.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Near half of which were Ukrainian military, and the other half separatist forces armed by Russia (and some Russian "volunteers"), some 3000 were civilians. That includes the civilian and government aircraft the rebels were shooting down with Russian Buk missiles.

Look man, all I know is that Russia has been really clear. Trying to stop them from killing your people and stealing your stuff is a RED LINE. You don't poke the bear!

 

[Scerpi]

The theater….



So brave…

 

[Rational Poster]

The theater….



So brave…

These are normal diplomatic comms through historically established de-escalation channels.

Just like Russia told us before they (failed) to test a new ICBM recently.

 

[PEB]

The theater….



So brave…

Oh look a Putin shimp coming to post nonsense quality you got your matching orders last night. Quality now go away. Reality they where poking the pup "Putin" I mean the bear lol to see if he would try something.

 

[SandisLL]

Near half of which were Ukrainian military, and the other half separatist forces armed by Russia (and some Russian "volunteers"), some 3000 were civilians. That includes the civilian and government aircraft the rebels were shooting down with Russian Buk missiles.

Actually no one knows these numbers and they are classified as some kind of deadly supersecret....

LPR and DPR losses UNTIL Russian Federation had de Iure annexed these areas?
Aren't Russian Federation problem according to Putin and Medvedev and Shoigu.
Not alone to talk about Wagner....


Manipulation with statistiscs Russia is capable to do is in amazing level.

In USSR campaign in Afganistan they managed not to report to Commy party KIA numbers etc.....

It is the same Russia as was then....even 10X worse.


In USSR Invasion in Afganistan 1979- 1989 real number for USSR was....
~ 15000 guys died...
~ 50000 guys had been put till end of life on disability benefits...

~ 200 000 lads had been wounded or get infections etc....
In condition when they weren't to be usable for any kind of tasks during 1-6 months in row...

Damn....

 

[AWilder]

The theater….



So brave…

 

[Rational Poster]

So Putin has said yesterday along with Russia's withdrawal from START that they have no intention to stop as they're fighting to reclaim ancestral lands.

(This is explicitly a war crime and no one who has made this argument in the ICC escaped conviction.)

 

[GhostZ06]

Yah I think you're right. Looks like some initial batches have recently started to arrive. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hit this position.

i bet its only a few for testing purposes and just to see how they work. id be stunned if they got some already.


Also i wonder if this means the US/marines are watching the deployment to see if we can use them later. Also i wonder if Small Diameter Bomb II can be fitted.

 

[aries]

The theater….



So brave…

What do you think happens if Russia launch a missile and it lands on sleepy Joe during his 'secret' visit to Kyiv? How would the US be pretty much forced to respond? Or do you want the USA to be in a direct war with Russia? Or do you think Putin wants a direct with war with Bad Boy Biden?

I don't think Putin has any water sport video leverage on Joe.

 

[Scerpi]

What do you think happens if Russia launch a missile and it lands on sleepy Joe during his 'secret' visit to Kyiv? How would the US be pretty much forced to respond? Or do you want the USA to be in a direct war with Russia? Or do you think Putin wants a direct with war with Bad Boy Biden?

I don't think Putin has any water sport video leverage on Joe.

Maybe Democrats and the Media should stop creaming themselves with Biden's "So Brave" act of going over there.



*Ring Ring* Putin, Please don't shoot Biden down... lol. Please don't leave us with Kamala, We're begging you

Everything with this Administration is Fake and Gay.... Virtual Signaling taken to over 9000 levels.

And they're left with giant buffoons and incompetence in key positions because of it.

I'd love to think Americans are going to notice his undue attention to a crisis halfway around the world, while ignoring massive issues happening here under his nose.

But I doubt it. The only winners in the end will be Military Industrial Complex, leaving tax payers holding the bag. What's the ratio of US aid vs the EU to Ukraine? 2:1? 3:1? More? Guess 10% to the Big Guy paid off.

 

[Scerpi]

lol.... Awe, guess you were played by their little theater act.

Did you cry at the end with joy and inspiration?

 

[White Whale]

He's mostly wrong but is also full of shit cause Russia respects nothing especially autonomy of any kind, familial or otherwise. The only people that applaud this nonsense are those that don't have to actually like in shithole Russia, like @San Marino, @White Whale and others. They can comfortably sit in the west and root for unholy Russia like shit eating goblins

This war was predicted in 2015 by a professor. The west is putting missile silos and instigating revolts on Russia's border. It's not about supporting Russia it is pointing out that the Ukraine is not black and out like the mainstream media portrays.