Crime Russell Brand charged with multiple counts of sexual assault in the UK

[terrapin]

There have been a lot of hate crime and sex offence false accusations in recent years. I think people are well within their rights to wait for more evidence to decide whether they believe a claim is credible. Accusations and denials are both mere claims, and this claim is about events which happened years ago so it will be hard to prove.

It does seem to me that many famous people are perverts, act as if rules do not apply to them (with some reason) or at the least push the boundaries of what could be defined as consent. But just thinking that Brand may fit with that stereotype also doesn’t make the claim true.

Yes, but you should still look up statistics so that you can understand that there's way way way way more accusations that are authentic.

I've got no opinion on Russell Brand la guilt except that his shift to Christianity feels completely fake and I have a lot of experience with people who start as dirtbags and then change their lives. They sure don't sound like Russell Brand after they've actually changed.

But that's proof of nothing obviously.

 

[Bob Gray]

You're just afraid to address the point I made and are now obfuscating because you're a dishonest liar like Trump.

I'll give you the last word because you're a waste of time.

Again, what am I lying about or obfuscating? My opinion hasn't changed. You're free to disagree, for whatever reasoning you have. But it isn't going to change my opinion that I think the best thing to do is see evidence before assuming criminal guilt.

 

[Whippy McGee]

"If we have NOTHING but he said she said... then there should never be a case. "

That's what I said, you moron. Also,

*alluding, you moron

You're an angry little man. What's really got your knickers in a bunch?

 

[The Diplomat]

You're an angry little man. What's really got your knickers in a bunch?

I like the cut of @Andy Capp's jib. But he isn't presidential material, imo.

 

[Xanzito]

All he could do at this point is converting to Islam. Then he could leave with a slap on the wrist and the women accusing him would prolly end up in jail.

 

[Xanzito]

You should look up statistics of false accusations versus authentic ones and then you won't feel that way because you're wrong about them....

I don't know when the right became such creepy weirdos that they don't defend women but it's really gross.

Is it the right that wants dicks flailing inside women's bathrooms? Women getting injured in sports by men?
LoL, the projection from these libs is hilarious.

 

[Dalarna3]

So?

So it's absurd

 

[calavera2]

Make more shit up dude.... I don't care about race and never have. That shit is for Left Cult assholes that can't think for themselves. Tell me please how the evidence I shared against Cosby doesn't get anyone convicted?

Cosby Case Key Evidence:

• Over 60 accusers with the same stories
• Cosby's testimony from previous trials where he admitted to obtaining Quaaludes to give to women for the purpose of sexual intercourse
• Cosby's private phone calls were introduced as evidence, where he discussed his interactions with women confirming the accusations

I'm sure you could explain all that evidence away if ol rapey Cosby was just alt right enough...

 

[oldshadow]

If any of this was actually rape and assault then I hope they get him and lock him up.

If it was regret sex by women that thought their pussy was so good that they would "be the one" it's on their dumb ass.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Brand was a walking red flag from day 1 for me. "Dog with two dicks" vibes sort of guy you just knew got high as fuck and would shag multiple girls in 24hrs and was capable of doing it due to his fame and the circles he moved in.

Do I think he's probably raped? Yeah I do. Just have that vibe.

Is there a few instances of buyers remorse? Definitely.

I bet there's a good few former drug party girls who are now living a more respectable life who are haunted by the things he did to them while high, consentfully. And are trying to erase those memories. Anyone who has dabbled in recreational drugs knows how your inhibitions diminish and the thrill that comes from that.

It's probably a 50/50 split for me. Half these claims are legitimate and half will be regret.

 

[HereticBD]

This should be a PSA not to live half your life black out drunk and high. If these accusations come your way, your defense will be rather limited since you can't remember shit, and people think anyone is capable of being a monster when they're fucked up. The benefit of the doubt starts to wane...

He's certainly gonna be running uphill on this is one.

 

[The Big Yin]

Yes, but you should still look up statistics so that you can understand that there's way way way way more accusations that are authentic.

There is literally no way or proving an allegation is true or false other than convictions, which stands at 1.9% in the UK (3.2% charged, 62% convicted)

For period 2021/22 1734 men were acquitted or found not guilty at court

 

[Whippy McGee]

I'm sure you could explain all that evidence away if ol rapey Cosby was just alt right enough...

No dumbass... you can't explain away:

• Cosby's testimony from previous trials where he admitted to obtaining Quaaludes to give to women for the purpose of sexual intercourse
• Cosby's private phone calls were introduced as evidence, where he discussed his interactions with women confirming the accusations

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

No wonder he went righty, they condone rape.

But was far left when he did it. Hmmm

 

[calavera2]

No dumbass... you can't explain away:

• Cosby's testimony from previous trials where he admitted to obtaining Quaaludes to give to women for the purpose of sexual intercourse
• Cosby's private phone calls were introduced as evidence, where he discussed his interactions with women confirming the accusations

You sure were quick to explain away Russel Brand's allegations...you went quite philosophical on how he's probably just a good boy who did too much drugs...cry more

 

[Whippy McGee]

You sure were quick to explain away Russel Brand's allegations...you went quite philosophical on how he's probably just a good boy who did too much drugs...cry more

You're full of shit. I did no such thing. This is exactly what I wrote.

They've been after him since he quit being a lock step Leftist and thought for himself.

That being said, he says straight up he was on drugs (often and a lot) and did some raunchy things with women, but that they always consented. He said he was also a shit after his escapades which upset many women.

We'll see... but I'm always queasy about sexual assault / rape cases that have large delays between the alleged act and the charges.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Jesus.

I posted this earlier today with a tongue in cheek reference to "how many nitwits would have defended Savile", then this story breaks:

Reform UK: Stephen Hartley suspended after pro-Jimmy Savile tweets

Stephen Hartley was announced as a Reform UK candidate in the Banbury Hardwick ward, but has since been suspended.

www.bbc.co.uk

A Reform UK candidate has been suspended from the party after posts on social media revealed his support for serial sex abuser Jimmy Savile.

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For those that don't know, Reform is an attempt at recreating the BNP/UKIP far right bullshit and make it a little more mainstream. So when a fucko that's part of the party is representing these views, you can assume other right wing types will follow suit/share the same views.

lol

Jimmy Savile. One of the very worst pieces of shit to walk the British Isles getting defended by... the right.

Labour MP arrested on suspicion of rape and child sex offences

Dan Norris has been suspended from the party pending the outcome of the police investigation

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

There is literally no way or proving an allegation is true or false other than convictions, which stands at 1.9% in the UK (3.2% charged, 62% convicted)

For period 2021/22 1734 men were acquitted or found not guilty at court

Does that mean what it looks like it means? That 96.8% of rape accusations in the UK are considered frivolous?

 

[The Big Yin]

Does that mean what it looks like it means? That 96.8% of rape accusations in the UK are considered frivolous?

The technical term is unproven

And it's 98.1%

 

[650lb Sumo]

Does that mean what it looks like it means? That 96.8% of rape accusations in the UK are considered frivolous?

The technical term is unproven

And it's 98.1%

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www.london.gov.uk

In this review of 500 London rape cases from 2016, victim attrition was the outcome in 58% of cases and the most likely reason for a case to be closed. This was further confirmed by the Government’s own end-to-end rape review, which found 57% of rape victim-survivors who reported to the police in England and Wales were withdrawing

In the second London Rape Review in 2021, 65% of cases ended because a victim-survivor did not support further action. The London Rape Reviews also highlighted that most victim-survivors were withdrawing their support for a case quickly after they’d reported, with over a third (58%) doing so within seven days of reporting in the 2019 sample and over two-thirds (64%) within 30 days in the 2021 sample.