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He was headline news on every major outlet. What a swing and a miss.
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He was headline news on every major outlet. What a swing and a miss.
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They have legal fact checkers and all this due diligence you claim they did - which you have no idea what they actually did. Yet they're so sloppy they use misaligned texts, obvious copy and pastes and different fonts? That is sloppy as hell. Why are they making a graphic when they could simply post the actual screenshot? How do we know they didn't omit key parts?
That's really stupid when they know it's going to be under so much scrutiny.
Why did the Sun air that Johnny Depp definitely abuse Amber Heard when Johnny Depp was in for a "massive payday?" Oh wait they lied and got away with it in court.
No I do not accept that as "evidence." Just based on their word. The UK media lied about Amber Heard. Why can't they lie about this?
And finally, WTF difference does it make that the publisher is a conservative? Media wants clicks and engagement.
No I reserve judgment until I see something more concrete. And preferably in a court of law where it comes under more rigorous scrutiny.
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He, along with many prominent businessmen and politicians took trips to his island where multiple girls recounted acts of
philia. You'd think this would be the biggest story of the century. There is a list of who these people were and they have his wife locked up and she holds all the info.
Yet the story just came and went like any other story. Completely forgotten about by the media at this point. That doesn't seem weird to you that journalists aren't pushing to get a hold of that list and expose all the
philes?
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if only a had access to some sort of device that would let me easily search for Epstein related news items and then sort them by date. well, in the absence of that sort of advanced technology I will just assume that nobody reported anything because I personally did not follow the story.
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That was the problem though. Epstein was the one they threw under the bus. He wasn't even in charge of it though.
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Russell Brand days are numbered.
That's what an investigative piece of journalism of this scope requires. Do you think the outlet spent thousands of manhours on the project and didn't bother to run through standard checks and balances on this?
For that matter, can you explain to me how UK defamation laws differ from the US and how that influences investigative journalism in either country? It's quite key to understanding this story.
Because screenshots look like ass, and how would you even get them? Do you want the person to hand over their phone and accounts permanently? Identifying information has to be removed anyways from screenshots, so it's standard practice for media outlets to generate their own graphics and insert the quotes. Of which this article clearly identifies it's doing.
Because the allegations that Depp had committed acts of domestic abuse were found "substantially true" in British courts.
Because a lot of folks in this thread claim it's a political hit job by leftists.
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Yea only because it was unavoidable to not air it at all. But definitely not to the level of scrutiny it deserved. They should have loudly been shouting every person that visited that island.
Ghislaine Maxwell should have been made to reveal all the people who visited there. But no, she just gets quietly sentenced.
The mainstream media definitely does not go out of their way to go after after groups of powerful people.
Personal story - When I was a teenager, I was arrested for fighting at that exact same Manhattan jail that Epstein was at. ZERO chance he killed himself. Literally impossible with the items they give you in a cell.
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did they run it by the 50 current and former intelligence officials though?
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He, along with many prominent businessmen and politicians took trips to his island where multiple girls recounted acts of
You'd think this would be the biggest story of the century. There is a list of who these people were and they have his wife locked up and she holds all the info.
Yet the story just came and went like any other story. Completely forgotten about by the media at this point. That doesn't seem weird to you that journalists aren't pushing to get a hold of that list and expose all the
Do you really think zero journalists have tried to get a hold of that list?
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I'm sure you can explain to me how UK defamation laws differ from the US, so why don't you explain that and how it relates to this story.
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Yes because mainstream publications are never wrong or have an agenda.
How the hell would I know the intricacies of UK defamation law? I'm not a UK lawyer and neither are you. I do know the UK tabloids are worse than even the US.
They can simply post the exact screenshot that was sent to them. There is no identifying information so that's a moot point. But even if there was, you can simply black that out.
In this case, multiple parts of the text is obviously different than other parts. It's blocks of text stitched together. And very sloppily I might add. There was even a missing timestamp.
Yea and they were wrong. Your claim that a UK publication wouldn't air an untrue story due to a fear of lawsuit is completely false. The UK publications air BS stories all the time.
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wow look MSM still reporting on Epstein.
from june of this year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...spector-general-report-jeffrey-epstein-death/
here's the same lefty source reporting on his web of connections
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/epstein-connections/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4
WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN STORIES!!!! HOW DOES GOOGLE WORK?!!!??!
its like the Prince Andrew doesn't sweat memes never happened.
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If they were, the media would be putting pressure on the government to release the list.
They aren't.
Probably don't want to get suicided.
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The first story just reinforces what I know to be bullshit. That the jailers were negligible to let him kill himself, etc. As I told you, I was arrested at that same exact jail (it's a holding jail in the city - not a prison) - All the cells have bolted down beds and toilet and impossible to kill yourself.
Unless you were 1. given the means to kill yourself 2. just killed by someone.
As for the names revealed in that second story, those were already known when the initial story broke. Prince Andrew couldn't hide it because he was a principal character in the initial story that broke. There are obviously many more powerful people that visited.
Why weren't the other people grilled by reporters like Prince Andrew did on national TV? There should have been a microscope to every person revealed to have gone to that island.
No - national TV especially should have been going through this with a fine toothed comb, but they didn't. The Hunter Biden laptop story and Trump's sexual allegations get WAY more scrutiny and for much longer.
And why the hell wasn't Ghislaine Maxwell required to reveal EVERY single person that went to that island?
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What was headline news? That he was arrested?
The story was possibly the most well connected guy on the planet having a revolving door of the richest and most influential people on earth banging kids on his plane, on his island, in his apartments, and the reporting was "that was pretty crazy, eh?" Welp, onto the next story.
If journalists weren't just social climbers, there should have been constant scrutiny with 0 let up until they got his client list, the dates, and grilled each and every one of them. Instead, what we got was "meh, there were definitely a bunch of billionaires fucking kids, but I guess we'll never know which ones".
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Not many on headlines that name was quickly dropped still nothing on that list...
Not to mention the names of those that were released in the news how many were they arrested for such similar allegations?
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Those are great questions for Trump, the Trump DOJ, Trump's labor secretary (who let Epstein off light the first time) and his corrupt buddy Bill Barr who *checks notes* ALL had ties to Epstein. You're missing the whole point tho. Numbnuts was suggesting there is no coverage of epstein and that somehow that means there is too much coverage of Brand. That's stupid. There's clearly tons of articles on Epstein from all sources. Getting mad that NO ONE has been able to tell the story you WANT to hear is not an indication that journalism has failed. Good journalists don't make shit up and run with completely unverified reports and the people in Epstein's orbit were mostly very wealthy and famous people who aren't going to take any libel.
