Rewatch Running it back : McGregor vs Nurmagomedov fight highlights

[JBJ was here]

Although he got dominated for most of the fight, it's kind of crazy how Conor showed better takedown defense against Khabib than Justin and Dustin.

Conor was fighting not to lose, which makes takedown defense easier. Cheating makes it easier too.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

Everytime I rewatch I'm struck by how many times and varied ways Conor cheated And how often Khabib brought it to Herb's attention and called it out, and how Herb did nothing.

Unfortunately that doesn't get captured in a highlights package but that's what always gets me.

The other bit that gets me is Conor standing back up in the 2nd round - Yeah he had to cheat 7-8 times to create the opportunity and yes he was taken right back down but I think every other top LW gets finished. He survived by crook but he survived. And whether Khabib just gave up the Kimura, or Conor's illegal knee on the ground just made him reevaluate what he wanted to do in the fight, the fact that it was in with control on the ground and Conor didn't get finished is impressive.

The illegal knee from the bottom in the 2nd when Khabib had the kimura should've been an automatic DQ.

Khabib was confident enough at that point to look over into the crowd and say "Dana?" so he could talk to him as he subbed McGregor, which made McGregor take the coward's way out and commit an illegal foul to escape a submission.

If you foul to get out of a submission it should be an automatic DQ every single time - if this was adhered to then the narrative would be Conor getting absolutely raped in every phase.

 

[MrBlackheart]

But if it was only money he was after then I suppose he’s happy.

In reality, he wanted the glory too. He just covers it up with the “it’s was just business” excuse. That’s why he’s still bitter about it and gets triggered anytime someone brings up Khabib.

 

[markg171]

Because he was cheating.

Literally gave you two examples without cheating.

Learn to read. Then learn to grapple so you understand what you're watching.

 

[markg171]

The illegal knee from the bottom in the 2nd when Khabib had the kimura should've been an automatic DQ.

Khabib was confident enough at that point to look over into the crowd and say "Dana?" so he could talk to him as he subbed McGregor, which made McGregor take the coward's way out and commit an illegal foul to escape a submission.

If you foul to get out of a submission it should be an automatic DQ every single time - if this was adhered to then the narrative would be Conor getting absolutely raped in every phase.

Khabib literally had not even begun the kimura when the knee ocurred.

The kimura failed 20 seconds later because Khabib hadn't the leverage for one as Conor's arm was blocking him from stepping over. Which also happened before the illegal knee.

 

[UFConFOX]

Huh? Conor escaped back to his feet on his own legitimately and never got taken back down again for the rest of the round.

You are right. I was going off memory and mixed this up w/ another instance.

The illegal knee occurred before Khabib ever even cranked the kimura and Khabib abandons it 20 seconds after the knee. It never interrupted a kimura.

Illegal knee occurs at 1:37 as Khabib has Conor is the Kimura from side control. Conor cheated so much you may be confusing this with another time he cheated all in b/n other times he cheated. But this one was right in the middle of the Kimura and commentary even called out "illegal knee" b/c it's as Khabib started to talk to Dana.

The kimura didn't work because Conor was correctly using his right arm to block Khabib from stepping over him like Khabib needed to do for the proper leverage for one. Something which Conor did the moment Khabib settled into side control, long before there ever was a kimura or illegal knee.

Yeah I mean I gave Conor as much credit as I could. If you want to give him more that's your prerogative. The truth is, the Kimura didn't work b/c of moments like the Illegal knee above and this toes-in-the-cage moment which happens like 4 or 5x during the Kimura.

Again, give him whatever credit you want. I felt I was fair in my evaluation earlier and I've watched the fight infinity times and not changing my mind at this point.




Just for shits and giggles here's another grab, 3 seconds later, where Herb tried - in vain - to stop it all during the Kimura.



And the grand finale was from 1:29 of the round to 1:20 of the round Conor has his toes in the cage the entire 9 seconds non-stop LMFAO

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

Khabib literally had not even begun the kimura when the knee ocurred.

The kimura failed 20 seconds later because Khabib hadn't the leverage for one as Conor's arm was blocking him from stepping over. Which also happened before the illegal knee.

Bro we've been down this road before - you don't have to have your leg over someone's head to finish a kimura (though it is the ideal finishing position to maximize leverage/minimize escapes), and since the cage was there it would almost be impossible to achieve that position without dragging him away from the cage first.

I don't know how many times you can watch a video of that sequence or see posts like @UFConFOX did with screen-grabs and still make that ridiculous argument.

Odds are Khabib would've never started talking to Dana if he wasn't confident that he had McG dead-to-rights (i.e. he wasn't getting out without cheating, even if Khabib wasn't breaking his arm that very second).

 

[Strijfy]

cool, the conga line of Conor suckholes revising history to soften the blow, even now, that their boy got soundly beaten.
' oooh he did better than I thought'
" Conor gave Khabib his most difficult fight eva'
'Conor was out grappling Khabib in the first 20 seconds of round one...'
'Conor negated all Khabibs take downs in round 3, it was pure luck in round 4 that Khabib managed to get him down'
'Watch this grainy footage, Conor didnt cheat by kneeing Khabib in the face'
'Watch this grainy footage, Khabib wasnt about to Kimora Conor in the second at all'
'Khabibs overhand punch only stunning Conor, it didn't knock him down , what a pillow fist, in fact Im sure Conor almost knocked out Khabib with the knee straight after that sequence'
' Conor wins the rematch'
' Conor scared Khabib so much that he retired so that he wouldnt have to rematch Conor and break his unbroken record'

And before I even read the rest of the comments, Conors Number one fan has already posted up the videos...
Sorry dude but Conor isnt:
A. going to sling you some cash for defending his ' honour'
b. isnt going to give you a reach around

 

[markg171]

Bro we've been down this road before - you don't have to have your leg over someone's head to finish a kimura (though it is the ideal finishing position to maximize leverage/minimize escapes), and since the cage was there it would almost be impossible to achieve that position without dragging him away from the cage first.

I don't know how many times you can watch a video of that sequence or see posts like @UFConFOX did with screen-grabs and still make that ridiculous argument.

Odds are Khabib would've never started talking to Dana if he wasn't confident that he had McG dead-to-rights (i.e. he wasn't getting out without cheating, even if Khabib wasn't breaking his arm that very second).

We've gone over it a 1000x because anybody with eyes can see Khabib never gets the kimura far enough back to have ever gotten a tap in the first place because he's not in the right position to do so.

As yourself literally say.

You'll be okay that Khabib simply failed a kimura. He wins by submission 2 rounds later.

 

[Arm Barbarian]

cool, the conga line of Conor suckholes revising history to soften the blow, even now, that their boy got soundly beaten.
' oooh he did better than I thought'
" Conor gave Khabib his most difficult fight eva'
'Conor was out grappling Khabib in the first 20 seconds of round one...'
'Conor negated all Khabibs take downs in round 3, it was pure luck in round 4 that Khabib managed to get him down'
'Watch this grainy footage, Conor didnt cheat by kneeing Khabib in the face'
'Watch this grainy footage, Khabib wasnt about to Kimora Conor in the second at all'
'Khabibs overhand punch only stunning Conor, it didn't knock him down , what a pillow fist, in fact Im sure Conor almost knocked out Khabib with the knee straight after that sequence'
' Conor wins the rematch'
' Conor scared Khabib so much that he retired so that he wouldnt have to rematch Conor and break his unbroken record'

And before I even read the rest of the comments, Conors Number one fan has already posted up the videos...
Sorry dude but Conor isnt:
A. going to sling you some cash for defending his ' honour'
b. isnt going to give you a reach around

If that was directed at me, then you certainly didn't read my whole post, nor are you aware that I've been one of McGs biggest critics here over the years, and still am.

I just decided to take another glance at this particular fight since it reappeared on my feed, and noticed a couple of things I didn't initially.

As much as I was happy to see Khabib beat Conor, I can still view a match somewhat objectively, particularly when the emotions or extra bias at the time has settled down a bit. Lol

 

[markg171]

Illegal knee occurs at 1:37 as Khabib has Conor is the Kimura from side control. Conor cheated so much you may be confusing this with another time he cheated all in b/n other times he cheated. But this one was right in the middle of the Kimura and commentary even called out "illegal knee" b/c it's as Khabib started to talk to Dana.

I don't know how you can possibly screengrab something that clearly shows a kimura that literally hasn't started being cranked and say the knee occurred in the middle of one. Khabib is not submitting anything here, this is just wrist control at this point.

Khabib only cranks the kimura out 20 seconds after this.

Yeah I mean I gave Conor as much credit as I could. If you want to give him more that's your prerogative. The truth is, the Kimura didn't work b/c of moments like the Illegal knee above and this toes-in-the-cage moment which happens like 4 or 5x during the Kimura.

All of those occur before Khabib actually gets the arm out and cranks. So no, they're not responsible for the actual kimura attempt failing which was at another point entirely.

The actual truth is that Khabib was simply in the wrong position for one, which yes absolutely was partly due to Conor correctly blocking Khabib from being able to step over him for leverage. Which again he established before the knee or toes ever occurred.

 

[VinceArch]

Literally gave you two examples without cheating.

Learn to read. Then learn to grapple so you understand what you're watching.

Touched a nerve.

Because he was cheating.

 

[markg171]

Touched a nerve.

Because he was cheating.

It's not my fault you apparently can't read, grapple, or hell watch Youtube videos and gifs literally provided for you.

Sad.

 

[Dandy Chiggins]

Conor did quite well to not get submitted by one of the greatest to ever do it. Too bad he couldn't keep up with Khabib's pace.

 

[VinceArch]

It's not my fault you apparently can't read, grapple, or hell watch Youtube videos and gifs literally provided for you.

Sad.

Oh I can but that's not the point. Conor cheated like hell, Herb allowed it and that's the reason why he was able to do better on the ground. That's literally it. I know it bothers you but the constant excuse making you do is laughable when you yourself said Conor cheated. After that, the entire argument you have is pointless.

 

[CasualBot]

 

[markg171]

Oh I can but that's not the point. Conor cheated like hell, Herb allowed it and that's the reason why he was able to do better on the ground. That's literally it. I know it bothers you but the constant excuse making you do is laughable when you yourself said Conor cheated. After that, the entire argument you have is pointless.

Mate you think a kimura was stopped by an illegal knee that occurred 20 seconds before Khabib had ever started cranking one.

All while Khabib wasn't even in the correct position to get a kimura regardless.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

Khabib got lucky

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

Because he was cheating.

lol no he was doing great even before he grabbed the fence for 2 seconds

 

[VinceArch]

lol no he was doing great even before he grabbed the fence for 2 seconds

2 seconds, 2 minutes, 2 hours. He cheated and he did it multiple times. I suggest you stick to power slap instead.