Roy Harris Blue Belt Requirements - Updated with another link

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by LeatherWhip, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. LeatherWhip

    LeatherWhip Guest

    The original post is below. I thought it would make sense to add this link as well, since it has links to all of his belt testing, and additional articles on his own brand of Brazialian Jiu Jitsu.

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    Harris International :: Harris International Blue Belt Requirements

    Does anyone know some of the position names or descriptions in the Roy Harris Blue Belt curriculum, such as below? Thanks

    Positional Dominance

    A. Mount position

    1. Position #1
    2. Position #2
    3. Position #3
    4. Position #4

    B. Side mount position

    1. Hold down #1
    2. Hold down #2
    3. Hold down #3
    4. Hold down #4
     
  2. UrbanSavage**

    UrbanSavage** Pepe Silvia

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    The whole list has been posted here before, I believe it was more thorugh. Anyway, he doesn't conduct the blue belt tests exactly as he types them up.
     
  3. LeatherWhip

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    Oh yes the test is way more thorough, its in the link that I attached in my first post. But I am wondering what some of the un mentioned moves are, if there is further details on the,, etc.

    Also, how does this compare to other programs, such as Gracie Barra, Saulo Ribeiro, etc.
     
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    ItsArun Green Belt

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    Roy Harris stuff
     
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    stu3ufc** Yoshihiro Akiyama

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    his brown belt standards are silly

    1 hr teaching a kid with disabilities etc

    400hrs of private tuition with Roy
     
  6. johil d'o

    johil d'o Thought Warrior

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    Is that real as to the brown belt requirements?
     
  7. Balto

    Balto Silver Belt

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    Being able to teach the disabled is actually a great standard. I wish there was more emphasis on skills like that in BJJ in general.

    There is much more to BJJ rank than simply the ability to tap people out. I think that is something a lot of people miss.
     
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    JDV5811 Purple Belt

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    i know to get your purple and higher they want you to teach lower belt classes and kids classes
     
  9. blindgod

    blindgod Blue Belt

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    Roy doesn't have any kids classes.
     
  10. anaconda

    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    lol. if this is true + the above requirements = BS.
     
  11. blindgod

    blindgod Blue Belt

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    constitution Blue Belt

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    how come Mr. Harris has been of such interest to this forum lately?
     
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    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    Although I agree with you to a point, - belts are about a lot more than tapping people out - but come on, this shouldnt be a requirement. How does teaching a disabled kid have anything to do with a bjj promotion? Why would you even have to teach bjj to a kid who cant physically do it? I think its a bad thing honestly. Maybe go teach some poor or underprivileged kids, or something like that - but make it optional.

    You shouldnt force people to do stuff like this IMO.
     
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    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    Not impressed.
     
  15. anaconda

    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    Heres from the black belt requirements:

    Seems just ridiculous to me. I can understand certain stuff that EVERY blue belt needs to know, or even every purple belt. But after that its just retarded to have a "belt test" and, IMO, insulting.

    Not everyone is the same. The whole point of bjj after purple belt is to develop your own game, a type of bjj thats uniquely yours. A big reason that I personally love bjj is that all types of people and all types of personalities can do it. With that said, you shouldnt try to make everyone the same way, or to fit the same mold.

    Some people just CANT TEACH. Some people arent personable, and dont get along with people they haven't met before. some people might not be comfortable with deaf/blind/disabled students. Some people might not perform very well under pressure.

    None of these are valid reasons to hold someone who has worked his/her ass off from getting the next belt.
     
  16. constitution

    constitution Blue Belt

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    ^ everyone i've talked to who has trained w/ or cross-trained w/ him... including folks from the inosanto camp, are highly impress w/ him.

    also -- perhaps Mr. Harris is more interested in the combination of the mastery of art in execution and the didactic aspect as well.

    educational maxim is that if you can teach the information, then you truly know it.

    possible?
     
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    I like it. Everything he wants makes you well rounded.

    He wants you to be able to throw, defend a throw and teach a throw.
    Perform a leg lock, defend a leg lock and teach a leg lock.
    Perform a sub, counter a sub and teach a sub, etc.

    There are too many black belts who can fight, but cant teach, and a growing amount who can teach but cant grapple. He wants his students to be able to do both. Not only that, but he is making sure everyone can do the basics, but he also stresses that everyone has an individual skill, and that actually forces the sport to adapt and grow. With people being encouraged to not only show the basics but get tested on one move they have mastered he is creating new Marcelos, DeLaRiva's and Eddie Bravos.

    Not just that, but his system ensures that people who recieve a black belt from him dont get a reputation of being a bully or a cheat.

    There are no bad sides to this. If you put in the time and you aren't an asshole you will get these skills naturally, and if you dont it shows not only a hole in your game, but a hole in your character that you can actually improve before you are considered a black belt.

    If I am to be tested, I want to be tested under Harris's system. It is much better designed than the Gracie Barra system which is a rediculous money making scheme from the largest BJJ organization in the world and something that I am slightly embarrased to have been a part of.
     
  18. Wolfwood

    Wolfwood Banned Banned

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    well those are the bare minimum to be a brown belt Roy has blue belts that tap out brown belts becasue they never botherd to test. I spent four years with ROy and he is a a very fair and reaonable teacher. Unlike my current teacher, Baret Yoshida, he has a life long goal for martial arts. That means he's is teaching you BJJ and a philophy of doing it as long as your still able to walk onto the mat (literally that's almost a direct quote). That is why is belt requirement are so wordy. I found my blue belt test to be very straight forward while at the same time difficult and rewarding.

    Baret's philophy is about getting you ready for copetition so his requirement is 16 taps in competition against same belt or higher in a tournemnt. No exam or anything. This is modificed in some cases for guys such as Warmachine who can't compete due to his contract with the UFC (he got his last belt for that win on the TUF finale)

    I find both equally fair and lacking in the arbitarainess of some schools whom I've trained with (not gong to mention names out of politness)
     
  19. MagicNinja

    MagicNinja White Belt

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    did this guy win any major tounaments? never heard of the guy.
     
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