Social Roseanne tweets outrageously racist comment about former Obama staffer Valerie Jarrett

[SmilinDesperado]

How does the president of the United States have the time and desire to comment on shit like the cancellation of a C level tv show, or some dumb, loudmouth blonde getting water thrown at her?
For fucks sake.
Can he at least ACT like he's the president?
Whiny ass bitch

 

[ShadowRun]

What about her freedom of speech?

Sho fly, lol is that how it works ?

 

[Deleted member 457759]

then why didnt he just say "I wouldnt have been in the fields, Id have been working in the house" or something similar? what was the point in using that word? the fact he used that word instantly made what he said racist. Again, you can rationalise it all you want.... but to quote the great Max Holloway "it is what it is"

Honestly, you're the problem here and your rationale is flawed. You're basically saying, "he used forbidden vernacular therefore it was racist. "

No, his intent is what the deciding factor should be. He was testing his cred, that's all.

 

[Fawlty]

It wasn't a joke, Fawlty. It was just plain old racism, and hateful messaging. That's it.

I destroyed the idea that it wasn't a joke.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

'The black community' isn't just one homogeneous, single-brained entity, you doofus.

I know that. Why are you telling me that?

 

[HomerThompson]

I destroyed the idea that it wasn't a joke.

Yeah, that never happened, because it isn't possible. It wasn't a joke.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Sho fly, lol is that how it works ?

???

 

[Culombo]

we'll agree to disagree, although Ive already stated its not the same as him racially abusing someone directly. its just what he said is racist in of itself. A white man should not be making "jokes" like that in front of a tv audience unless he's ready for the upcoming backlash

a 'white man' should be able to make any joke like anyone else .. it's comedy .. comedy isn't all rosey pg 13 .. some of it is dark, some of it is shocking etc etc .. other comedians crack jokes about 'a white man' all the time and all of you are perfectly ok with that .. lol@you making rules for the 'white man' but everyone else has free rein .. kick rocks .. either we are all really equal or we are not .. pick one

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, that never happened, because it isn't possible. It wasn't a joke.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/141651527/

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Honestly, you're the problem here and your rationale is flawed. You're basically saying, "he used forbidden vernacular therefore it was racist. "

No, his intent is what the deciding factor should be. He was testing his cred, that's all.

how am I the problem? because I recognise that 2 white guys sitting having a conversation on national tv shouldnt make jokes about "s"?

oh yeah, Im really the problem in this scenario

 

[HomerThompson]

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/141651527/

It wasn't a joke, Fawlty. That trope doesn't change anything. It was a tweet, not meant to make one laugh, but meant to make one hate Valerie Jarrett for being an Iranian Monkey. A dangerous secret muslim Iranian monkey at that. You know, because black people look like monkeys, Fawlty. Ha ha ha ha ha. On fucking twitter, as a one off statement.

Your apologetics are way out of line here, and your love of comedy as an art form is rendering your brain utterly useless.

 

[salamander]

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/141651527/

You act as though comedy is some kind of priesthood, above any type of reproach.

I'm not sure why.

EDIT: I just noticed your av. Nevermind. Your strenuous apologia is merely tribalism. The same thing that makes your defense of her so abhorent to me. I guess we're both reflexive that way.

Cheers.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

a 'white man' should be able to make any joke like anyone else .. it's comedy .. comedy isn't all rosey pg 13 .. some of it is dark, some of it is shocking etc etc .. other comedians crack jokes about 'a white man' all the time and all of you are perfectly ok with that .. lol@you making rules for the 'white man' but everyone else has free rein .. kick rocks .. either we are all really equal or we are not .. pick one

so when interviewing a white senator its perfectly ok to make jokes like that?

I forgot that word is probably in your daily vernacular so of course you demand the right to be able to say it lol

 

[Deleted member 457759]

how am I the problem? because I recognise that 2 white guys sitting having a conversation on national tv shouldnt make jokes about "s"?

oh yeah, Im really the problem in this scenario

You're the problem because you're attributing a major social infraction that can ruin a person's life to a frivolous self deprecating joke. You're opportunistically ceasing the optics of him using a variation of the N word to ascribe racist intent to a guy that is very obviously not racist.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

You're the problem because you're attributing a major social infraction that can ruin a person's life to a frivolous self deprecating joke. You're opportunistically ceasing the optics of him using a variation of the N word to ascribe racist intent to a guy that is very obviously not racist.

Ive already stated its not the same as racial abuse, and he apologised and it was accepted. But to play the "its not racist" bullshit is just disingenuous

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

a 'white man' should be able to make any joke like anyone else .. it's comedy .. comedy isn't all rosey pg 13 .. some of it is dark, some of it is shocking etc etc .. other comedians crack jokes about 'a white man' all the time and all of you are perfectly ok with that .. lol@you making rules for the 'white man' but everyone else has free rein .. kick rocks .. either we are all really equal or we are not .. pick one

Translation - "white guys like me should be able to call people the n word DAMMIT rabble rabble rabble"

 

[Culombo]

It wasn't a joke.

 

[ShadowRun]

???

I think that was your candid response to JVS for awhile? I see my phone got rid of the other O so it doesn’t say shoo lol

 

[SmilinDesperado]

we'll agree to disagree, although Ive already stated its not the same as him racially abusing someone directly. its just what he said is racist in of itself. A white man should not be making "jokes" like that in front of a tv audience unless he's ready for the upcoming backlash

Im black, so yea, i agree that that's a joke that a white guy just shouldn't do, but I don't see why that means we need to mislabel what happened.
Words have meanings, and nowadays people keep blurring what words mean and it makes them lose their meaning. Every non PC comment or joke isn't racist. The context matters and can change the meaning completely

He deserved the backlash he got, for making a joke he shouldn't of made.
But he isn't a racist for making the joke.
But yeah, I can't see how one can disagree with that, but if so, agree to disagree brah .

 

[SBJJ]

It is interesting that ABC had someone working for them that said the same thing about Trump

Barr should have been fired. But let's not act like there is not hypocrisy here