Ronda Rousey was never that good

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  1. TimPo717

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    For whatever reason the UFC/Dana White took a major liking to her and decided to make her a star. She was literally given a UFC title at a press conference, a weight class which was perfect for her, and put up against other fighters who quite honestly weren't that good and were perfect match ups for her. She was not only protected from Cyborg, but the UFC and Dana White launched a smear campaign against her stopping to the level of making/condoning comments about her gender and looks.

    From there the UFC put a PR campaign behind her which basically made her into a mythical figure. Unfortunately, since so many people are easily swayed and duped into believing anything, perception became reality. They had people believing she could beat men. In the process Rousey herself believed the hype. Her behavior became indicative of someone who was given free reign to do whatever she wanted and suffer no consequences. She was constantly called a role model for all young women, and yet her behavior was often despicable. When she beat Meisha Tate and Tate stood right up and put her hand towards her to congratulate her, and Ronda snubbed her every excuse in the book was made for her. When her pre and post fight behavior towards her opponents went beyond trash talk and became outright elitist, it was ignored.

    Also, to those who say there would be no women's MMA without her, that couldn't be further from the truth. Her only claim to that is the fact that Dana White fell in love with her and decided to hand over the world to her. Ronda Rousey did everything she did for Ronda Rousey. Women's MMA is alive and well because of women like Gina Carano, Cyborg, Meisha Tate, Marloes Coenen, etc.

    I don't enjoy seeing people fall and have a swift and decisive fall from grace. That being said, when someone shits on everyone else in their path to to the top, and honestly believes they are better than everyone else (not as a fighter, but simply a superior human being), their fall from grace is getting what they deserve.

    The fact of the matter is, Ronda Rousey was good, but she was never that good. Women's MMA evolved at an alarming rate, and while she was busy believing her own hype other women came up and got better. She fought two women who had decent striking rather than just coming forward and flailing their arms, and she was dominated. If Ronday Rousey came out today and said she made a lot of mistakes, showed even a small level of humility, and decided to actually work hard to improve her fighting skills and ability to be even a decent human being, I would be the first to root for her to come back. However, considering everything we saw from her fighting skills on Friday night and her behavior leading up to the fight it's obvious she is still mired in her own hype and false world. As long as that continues she will never be a champion again, and quite honestly, I believe she will continue to be a bitter, miserable, and lonely person. Karma is a bitch, just ask Ronda Rousey.
     
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    20falarVerdades Silver Belt

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    We know this, that wall of text was uncalled for
     
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    Can't wait for Dana to drop the inevitable
    "Ronda rousey was never my friend" line
     
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    Welcome to Sherdog. Keep the OPs shorter, the mouth breathers on this forum aren't going to read that much.
     
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    Unfortunately a lot of people still don't.
     
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  6. TimPo717

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    Thanks, and will do.
     
  7. ThePunisher

    ThePunisher Forum vigilante

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    There's not much to say besides:

    1) She was talented relative to her competition
    2) She was relatively attractive
    3) Polarizing personality brought in viewers.

    That's all you gotta say.
     
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    We knew that. Just like how Conor tries to pick the easiest fights for himself.
     
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    WMMA sucks
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    Would still kick most people's ass
     
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    I've posted this a few times and I will post it again: The Rousey-era is a black eye on the UFC's history. The over-the-top marketing, the ridiculous hype and the nauseating hyperbole has tarnished the UFC's image forever.

    Dana has always been a scumbag, but it has been hard to give him even an ounce of respect since showing his major hard-on for Ronda.
     
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    You mean to say Ronda would kick most women's asses.
     
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    First off she didn't need to be protected from someone who can't make 135 lbs, can't fight the champ if you can't make the weight. Secondly no one can predict what would have happened but its a fact that until Dana saw Ronda he said there would never be WMMA in UFC, then he saw Ronda and changed his mind. He's on record of saying that. Gina didn't change his mind, Miesha didn't, Ronda did so its erroneous to say that she isn't at the very least a big reason why WMMA is alive and well in the UFC.
     
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    Yes, but she was talented relative to her competition only because the talent pool for women's MMA is so small.

    Look at other combat sports in the country. The number of women who box and wrestle can't be much larger than a hundredth the size of the men's talent pool for those same sports.

    A larger ratio of women practice traditional martial arts - as anyone who has ever stepped inside a TKD or Karate school can tell you - but the number of men in those sports is still much larger than the number of women who practice them.

    Since these combat sports all feed into MMA, for both men and women, Ronda had a huge advantage by being a highly competitive judoka early in her life.
     
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    It's important to understand this -- Rousey is the prototype of what WME-IMG/UFC wants to do with their fighters.

    The goal for WME-IMG/UFC is to make money and build brands from each fighter (ideally). Ronda was exactly what they want to achieve with as many fighters as they can.

    But as the OP said, and many already knew, there was a problem. And that problem was that despite the hype of being a "once ever athlete," the truth was that Ronda had gigantic holes in her skill set. Not to mention whatever personality challenges she might have.

    The further along the tracks the hype train goes, the more likely it is going to be derailed. Ronda was probably protected as much as she could have been (keep her away from Carano-killer Cyborg, for example), but eventually people got to see the "woman behind the curtain" in the Holm fight.

    It is what it is. The UFC not only isn't going to apologize, they're looking to create the "next Ronda" as fast as they can. Current Ronda is cashed out; she's done and her value is minimal now, at least as a fighter.

    But WME-IMG/UFC will seek to create the Next Ronda as soon as they can.

    It's like WWE. If they could just "copy and paste" guys like Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and Stone Cold Steve Austin they would. Those guys bring in the bucks and elevate your company.

    Ronda was a fraud, and a delusional fraud, at that. She got what she deserved.

    But she still made herself and the UFC a lot of money, and she helped the UFC become more mainstream.
     
  18. Devout Pessimist

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    The female Ellen fans will not be watching MMA any longer now that Rousey is gone.
     
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    They'll be back. Just wait.

    Now the UFC knows they can get them. That's the key. Getting female viewers for MMA (who are watching to cheer on female fighters) is like discovering a gold mine for the UFC.

    They're not going to let it go now.
     
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    It's WMMA, who cares.
     

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