Ronda Rousey v Cris Cyborg - Size Comparison

[I WILL CUT YOU]

she was winning the fight up until the finish

I remember Coenen beating her ass quite bad.

Respect for shutting me down.

McBlaze plzzzzzz

 

[clayj]

I'll name Cryborg'sv5 best:

Coenen
Coenen
7-0 Gina
10-5 Baszler, who had Borg in trouble with grappling


Gets dicey here. Next is either Porto, who was 3-2 and fights at 125 or Akano, who was 14-6 and the 128champ in Jewels.

Schroeder, Santiago, Vitoria are extremely low level wins.
Takahashi was 17-12, and lost to every non-Japanese fighter she fought
Finney was 8-8 and lost to every semi-notable fighter she fought
Yamanaka Cris pissed hot for Stanozolol, ab anabolic steroid
Muxlaw 6-3, part time fighter, full time fitness instructor
Tweet 6-4, 38 years old Ronda beat her so long ago she's not even considered a good win for her
Van Duin 5-2

You can't count Coenen twice, or Ronda can count Tate twice, and she is better than Coenen, anyway. So basically, Cyborg has fought Marloes, Carano and Baszler who was TKO'd by Bethe Correia. There is absolutely no conceivable way to imagine Cyborg has fought better opponents.

 

[IBeLurkin]

Exactly.

Anyone who is ripping on this fight is either worried for Rousey or is not a true MMA fan.

This fight makes me salivate, and generally I'm not a big fan of WMMA outside of Rousey"'s fights.

This man speaks the truth!

Uncle Dana says he makes the fights the fans want to see...then make this happen and enjoy the millions you make off it UFC!

 

[McBlaze]

You can't count Coenen twice, or Ronda can count Tate twice, and she is better than Coenen, anyway. So basically, Cyborg has fought Marloes, Carano and Baszler who was TKO'd by Bethe Correia. There is absolutely no conceivable way to imagine Cyborg has fought better opponents.

145lbs has been thin for always, is that cyborgs fault?

 

[Jon Lock]

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

You can't count Coenen twice, or Ronda can count Tate twice, and she is better than Coenen, anyway. So basically, Cyborg has fought Marloes, Carano and Baszler who was TKO'd by Bethe Correia. There is absolutely no conceivable way to imagine Cyborg has fought better opponents.

Yeah my thinking was Tate and Coenen x2.


Cyborg's resume is hot garbage. A couple good wins and a bunch of .500 125ers.

 

[Geech]

145lbs has been thin for always, is that cyborgs fault?

Regardless of fault, it's something you need to take into account when assessing Cyborg as a fighter. She just doesn't have a very good resume.

 

[IBeLurkin]

Ronda white knights:

If you think Cyborg would be such easy work for Ronda, then why won't she fight her?

Who gives a fuck about previous wins... Everyone knows this is a huge fight for Ronda.

You think Ronda would destroy her? Awesome....then why not have them fight already?

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Exactly.

Anyone who is ripping on this fight is either worried for Rousey or is not a true MMA fan.

This fight makes me salivate, and generally I'm not a big fan of WMMA outside of Rousey"'s fights.

This, its the only fight I really care about. Not since Fedor/Crocop have I wanted to see a fight this bad.

Def not scared at all I'm fairly certain Ronda starches her. If Cris ever decides to submit to the enhanced testing she will get a beating, and I will be serving crow in hell for dinner.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Ronda white knights:

If you think Cyborg would be such easy work for Ronda, then why won't she fight her?

Who gives a fuck about previous wins... Everyone knows this is a huge fight for Ronda.

You think Ronda would destroy her? Awesome....then why not have them fight already?

I think you need to ask Borg.

Ronda isn't scared. It is pretty obvious that Cyborg is the reason the fight hasn't happened. She has ducked/ran, lied and changed her mind a hundred times about nearly everything you can think of over the last four years to the point that nothing she says or does can be taken seriously.

First, the histry of Ronda going to 135 is outlined in this historical sherdog thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/92583821-post954.html

Then, what happend next was that Ronda beat Budd and Cyborg got busted for steroids. Ronda still agrees to fight Cyborg at 145 (According to Cyborg and her lawyers) for the FW title. However, with Cyborg unable to get her suspension reduced SF gets rid of the 145 class, effectively cancelling the fight (Cyborg's ruins the fight #1).
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/9/29...on-upheld-strikeforce-ronda-rousey-female-mma

Cyborg then says she will fight Ronda at a catchweight of 140 (Aug 13, 2012)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/13/3240734/cris-cyborg-ronda-rousey-fight-catchweight

To which Ronda's manager agrees with VADA drug and hair folicle testing (Aug 19)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/20/3256102/ronda-rousey-drug-testing-cyborg-steroids-strikeforce-mma

To which Cyborg backs out almost instantly saying she "will fight at 145, no less" and that she is the champion (actually she wasn't, she was stripped of the belt), and Cyborg ruins the fight for a second time, and ducks Ronda directly for the first time.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...ight-rousey-at-145-pounds----no-less/828222/1

Then the UFC buys SF and picks up Ronda's contract and creates the 135 class. Then, the UFC picks up Cyborg's contract and even offers to let her to go Invicta and make money while she trims down until she can make 135. They even offered to PAY Mike Dolce for her to help her lose the weight.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/...es-services-to-get-cyborg-to-135-ronda-rousey
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/...dy-fat-percentage-cain-velasquez-ronda-rousey


Cyborg responds by asking to be released from the UFC. (Cyborg ruins the fight #3, Cyborg ducks Ronda #2)

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Then, the UFC gets cozy with Invicta, puts them on fightpass and makes an agreement that Cyborg will get into the UFC if she makes 135. Cyborg signs a contract to make 135 in Dec 2014, but continues to lift weights on a daily basis and doesn't even try to cut the weight, pulling out of the fight and saying she will continue to fight at 145, but that she will still fight Ronda at 145, effectively ducking the fight again (duck #3) by not agreeing to the terms that will get her the bout agreement

This doesn't even take into account all the times Cyborg says she is going to 135, then she will die if she does, then she will be fine, then dead again ... etc.

Here is Cyborg weighing in at 140

http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/elitexc-unfinished-business-weigh-in-results


she doesn't exactly look like a concentration camp victim, she is still carrying a ton of muscle mass. She just has to drop five pounds of it and the fight is on. Cyborg is just too psychologically attached/addicted to her muscle mass to let it go. She knows she can keep her name in the headlines by barking at Ronda from a distance, while never having to actually take the fight.

Cyborg has no leverage to dictate the terms. Ronda is going nowhere, she is a stationary target, if Cyborg wants the fight, she knows where she has to go to get it.

The day before her Invicta weigh-in against Tweet, Cyborg said she could "make 140 tomorrow"
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/cyborg...ufc-champ-ronda-rousey-at-140-pounds-tomorrow

but since she says she currently walks around at 175

that means she is saying she can fight at a weight 35 pounds below her walkaround weight, but claimed it was physically impossible, and maybe even fatal, if she tried to cut from her walkaround weight of 160 (see video above) down to 135 back when she asked to be released from the UFC, even though that is only 25 pounds. The only conclusion was that she JUST DIDN'T WANT THE FIGHT, since she could have clearly cut the weight.

So lose five pounds of muscle from where you were before and make the fight. The UFC wasn't willing to make a catchweight fight for Carano ("White made it clear that if such a fight would happen, it would have to occur at 135 pounds."), so they sure aren't going to make one for you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9...y-say-gina-carano-deserves-an-immediate-title

Quit running, or does she only want to fight with a huge weight advantage where she can alter the scale to make weight? Complete lack of class and sportsmanship.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/details-of-the-cyborg-vs-akano-controversy-2

but of course Cyborg won't cut the weight, here you can hear in her own words at 4:40 that she has no desire to fight without having a huge size advantage.



If Cyborg would just cut back on the powerlifting and protein shakes (and we know what else she does) she would start to go back to her natural, walk-around weight of 137 like you can see here, and she won't even be a big 135 pounder.

 

[Breakitdown]

She fights the same now. When was the last time she destroyed a credible opponentinside a round?

What's your definition of credible? Is UFC title contender, and former accountant Beth Corriea a credible opponent. Someone who has been doing MMA for about 4 years who got into it for the fitness aspect LOL.

 

[skold]

Shes beaten the #1 FW 2x with ease, she beat gina who was #1 for a long time with ease. what has rousey done thats more impressive? beat liz carmouche bethce Mcmann and tate? big fkn deal . There not exactly wworld class fighters, cyborg destroys them all in 1 round as well. mcmann eats a shot and just drops (shes a woman tito) , tate would get bullied and her nose smashed in, carmouche is undersized even for 135... betche... yea... uhh there is just cyborg and ronda ahead of the rest of the pack... they should just meet @140 for a superfight, that is fair.

Marloes = 1
Gina (questionable, since she has like no good wins herself but fine) = 2
??? = 3
??? = 4
??? = 5

Where are the other quality wins by Cyborg?

 

[Geech]

What's your definition of credible? Is UFC title contender, and former accountant Beth Corriea a credible opponent. Someone who has been doing MMA for about 4 years who got into it for the fitness aspect LOL.

We did the opponent comparison over the past few pages already, and Cyborg lost bad.

 

[skold]

What's your definition of credible? Is UFC title contender, and former accountant Beth Corriea a credible opponent. Someone who has been doing MMA for about 4 years who got into it for the fitness aspect LOL.

Funny how you people focus in on Bethe, but completely forget people like Zingano, Tate, Davis, Kaufman... all better wins than anything Cyborg has done.

Don't use Bethe as an excuse to trash Ronda's competition, she still has a better record than all but 1 of Cyborgs opponents

 

[McBlaze]

this, its the only fight i really care about. Not since fedor/crocop have i wanted to see a fight this bad.

Def not scared at all i'm fairly certain ronda starches her. If cris ever decides to submit to the enhanced testing she will get a beating, and i will be serving crow in hell for dinner.

just rewatched the fight , my bad! tate laid on her rd 1, coenen dominated rd 2 , tate won rd 3.
Still has nothing to do with how borg vs ronda would go down. But yes i was wrong tate was winning that fight.

 

[SlicerDM]

I think you need to ask Borg.

Extremely misleading post my friend.

It would hold merrit if reality didn't dictate how difficult it is to manuiplate weight like that.

 

[McBlaze]

funny how you people focus in on bethe, but completely forget people like zingano, tate, davis, kaufman... All better wins than anything cyborg has done.

u think davis mcmann zingano beat coenen & gina?

 

[Geech]

Extremely misleading post my friend.

It would hold merrit if reality didn't dictate how difficult it is to manuiplate weight like that.

Maintaining that much lean muscle, especially as a woman, is way more difficult than losing it. Way more difficult.

 

[clayj]

Marloes = 1
Gina (questionable, since she has like no good wins herself but fine) = 2
??? = 3
??? = 4
??? = 5

Where are the other quality wins by Cyborg?

Slicer and McBlaze, please fill in the rest, thanks.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

What's your definition of credible? Is UFC title contender, and former accountant Beth Corriea a credible opponent. Someone who has been doing MMA for about 4 years who got into it for the fitness aspect LOL.

Strawman fallacy.

The argument wasn't about Bethe. Bethe was Ronda's worst opponent since maybe D'Alelio but at least Bethe was undefeated. Also, Bethe is a much better win than Muxlaw, Tweet, Van Duin, Finney, Takahashi, Vitoria, Santiago, and Schroeder.

Bethe is a better win than HALF of Cris's opponents.



Speaking of credible title contenders, did you know that on February 27, 2015 Cyborg defended against Charmaine Tweet? Tweet was:

• 38 years old
• 6-4
• Veronica Rothenhausler was her only good win
• Ronda beat her just as fast years prior

Sounds credible, bro. And Bethe was Ronda's WORST WIN SINCE 2011, who was no lessthan the one and only... Charmaine Tweet.