Rogan exaggerating his fighting career

[rakeleaves]

A big part of it, is he knows his core audience. White dudes, 25-45, primarily from the burbs. Guys that like to hunt. Guys that like weed. Guys that like to work out. Not all, but mostly guys in trades that can listen to him while they work. He tends to hit notes that resonate with that group. And they vote how? And whether it’s Kelly Clarkson’s daytime show or Joe Rogan’s podcast, you better believe they do audience research. You think women listen to Joe Rogan? Ah… no. They might watch his stand-up…maybe.

Edit, I actually have no clue who the hell watches his standup

Yeah, it's called the right-ring grift. Guys like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin etc... know where the money is. Joe does what is good for Joe, and if that is advocating for not taxing the rich because it would put a dent in his generational wealth pocket book, he'll come up with a rationalization why that's "correct." A billionaire against being taxed more is not a leftist. Regardless, we can hypothesize about his motivations all day long. I'm simply looking at: a) the effect of his rhetoric/platofrm b) what he has gone on record saying c) % categories of the political orientation of the guests he brings on to platform.

 

[method115]

Yeah, it's called the right-ring grift. Guys like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin etc... know where the money is. Joe does what is good for Joe, and if that is advocating for not taxing the rich because it would put a dent in his generational wealth pocket book, he'll come up with a rationalization why that's "correct." A billionaire against being taxed more is not a leftist. Regardless, we can hypothesize about his motivations all day long. I'm simply looking at: a) the affect of his rhetoric/platofrm b) what he has gone on record saying c) % categories of the political orientation of the guests he brings on to platform.

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

 

[Satur9]

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

Exactly. If you have known and followed him for some time, he has been basically the same guy for the last 20 years.

 

[SurferH2O]

has sex with men? i thought he was a hetero sexual married man, dunno where you got that part from

It's likely pure projection from another manlet upset that Joe is successful.

 

[HOLA]

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

It's definitely a right-wing grift. To the point where I'm pretty sure he copied his friend Alex Jones' business model.

During Alex's trial financial records for InfoWars were released. Believe it or not, those stupid supplements he pushes fly off the shelves. He was literally making $1 million in sales on some days.

I'd wager that played a big part in Joe pushing Alpha Brain on his listeners. And the background of his involvement in that is shady as fuck. I've posted the whole story before.

Full financial records of Alex Jones' InfoWars store. He made $165 million selling BS in just 3 years. And when Trump was elected he actually did $1 in a single day.



Edit...technically I think the lawyers said $1 million in a 24 hour period. Looks like technically he made ~$670,000 on election day and ~$850,000 the day after. Whatever, point remains, he was raking it in.

 

[rakeleaves]

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

If you read my post, you would understand that I am arguing he is actually right wing, although impact is more important than intentions. What the other poster who I quoted said, was the he is just pushing those opinions becuase of his target audience, which is essentially a "right ring grift theory". I was just summarizing his position. Either way, not good.

 

[method115]

If you read my post, you would understand that I am arguing he is actually right wing, although impact is more important than intentions. What the other poster who I quoted said, was the he is just pushing those opinions becuase of his target audience, which is essentially a "right ring grift theory". I was just summarizing his position. Either way, not good.

Then why did he say he was voting for Sanders after having him on his show? Doesn't make sense. I hear these arguments all the time and they never make sense. I'm almost positive people who make these claims don't actually watch the show and just piece together information they can find online.

 

[rakeleaves]

Then why did he say he was voting for Sanders after having him on his show? Doesn't make sense. I hear these arguments all the time and they never make sense. I'm almost positive people who make these claims don't actually watch the show and just piece together information they can find online.

If he had any firm left wing compass, he wouldn't shift from voting to Sanders in 2020 to supporting Trump over Biden in 2024. It just doesn't make sense policy wise and smells like him trying to pander to both sides of the isle. He supported Sanders because he literally just had him on his podcast. Whatever right wing tendencies he had in him before 2020 have intensified since moving to Texas; this has been well documented. I literally listed over dozen policy positions proving that Rogan is more right than left, and your only reply is "Duhhhh he said he would vote for Sanders in 2020", even the he didn't actually vote for Sanders.

 

[method115]

If he had any firm left wing compass, he wouldn't shift from voting to Sanders in 2020 to supporting Trump over Biden in 2024. It just doesn't make sense policy wise and smells like him trying to pander to both sides of the isle. He supported Sanders because he literally just had him on his podcast. Whatever right wing tendencies he has in him before 2020 have intensified since moving to Texas; this has been well documented. I literally listed over dozen policy positions proving that Rogan is more right than left, and your only reply is "Duhhhh he said he would vote for Sanders in 2020", even the he didn't actually vote for Sanders.

Ok this is the problem I'm talking about. First you said he's pushing out the opinions for his target audience which is right-wingers. Then you said he only mentioned Sanders to pander to both sides. Which is it? Is he trying to be a right-wing grifter or is he trying to pander to both sides?

I never said "Duuhh he voted for Sanders". I asked you why he did that when you said he was trying to pander to right wingers. Saying you're voting for Sanders is certainly not going to be something right-wingers want to hear. He couldn't vote for Sanders. Not sure if you know this but Sanders never made it past the primary.

Being more right than left is a different topic. I never said he doesn't lean more right than left. I said I don't think he's a right-wing grifter. Those two things aren't the same. Is your point that simply leaning more right than left means you're a right-wing grifter?

 

[Andy Capp]

Joe once said he was a US taekwondo champ, but if you go on the official taekwondo website he's nowhere to be found.

They have every champ going back to the 60s lol.

Credit to "Martialtalk.com", user Terry1965:

"He never di [sic] Olympic style of TKD so he would have never been to the USAT US Open. He was an ITF guy and they have to many US Opens event each year to even start to say if he is lieing or not. Remember just this last year the US had 17 US Open tournaments so pick your poison."
https://www.martialtalk.com/threads/joe-rogans-taekwondo-background-accomplishments.95366/

 

[Frank Kain]

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

To me, he’s really dialed in on his audience. The guys I hang out with parrot his shit. It’s hilarious. He does seem to advocate more than he used to, but with a lot of legalization of ganja, he does not have that to advocate for anymore.

 

[rakeleaves]

Ok this is the problem I'm talking about. First you said he's pushing out the opinions for his target audience which is right-wingers. Then you said he only mentioned Sanders to pander to both sides. Which is it? Is he trying to be a right-wing grifter or is he trying to pander to both sides?

I never said "Duuhh he voted for Sanders". I asked you why he did that when you said he was trying to pander to right wingers. Saying you're voting for Sanders is certainly not going to be something right-wingers want to hear. He couldn't vote for Sanders. Not sure if you know this but Sanders never made it past the primary.

Being more right than left is a different topic. I never said he doesn't lean more right than left. I said I don't think he's a right-wing grifter. Those two things aren't the same. Is your point that simply leaning more right than left means you're a right-wing grifter?

Seems like you fail at comprehension. I didn't say that he's pushing out opinions for his target audience, that's what somebody else said who replied to me. I just summarized what he was saying in the reply when using "right wing grift". I've always emphasized the effect is more important because we can only hypothesize about intentions. My initial post laid out of 12 policy positions IIT to explain why he is legitimately a right winger.

My argument before and since then is that Rogan is legitimately right wing regardless of any market appeal tactics. My view is that he is a right winger who panders to progressives from time to time (much less so after moving to Texas) in order to maintain a wider market appeal. Sanders had enough likeability: people from both sides of the isle liked him because he actually had some integrity compared to standard politicians and was challenging the neoliberal democrats. Sanders was legitimately the most popular politician by all accounts in the US when Joe Rogan endorsed him, seen as an outsider from the political estabilishment with a huge internet following as well.

I don't know if you know this, but the democratic primary actually happened in California, and Sanders won it. So, Joe could have voted for Sanders as long as he was registered. But then, Joe made the lame vague excuse "I would have voted for him, but I couldn't." What does that even mean? Are you too naive to see the bullshit?

 

[William Munny]

Been listening to Rogan for a long time now. If he's a right-wing grift then the word has lost all meaning and it's just another buzzword people are throwing around to discredit someone.

he's not. it's another tactic of the simpleton employed in a desperate attempt to discredit them.

it's no different than, "oh! you're a racist, transphobe, bigot!" etc.

if anyone listens to his podcast they will realize he's very liberal, a true one at that. similar to what Bill Maher is.

 

[Barteh]

Yeah, it's called the right-ring grift. Guys like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin etc... know where the money is. Joe does what is good for Joe, and if that is advocating for not taxing the rich because it would put a dent in his generational wealth pocket book, he'll come up with a rationalization why that's "correct." A billionaire against being taxed more is not a leftist. Regardless, we can hypothesize about his motivations all day long. I'm simply looking at: a) the affect of his rhetoric/platofrm b) what he has gone on record saying c) % categories of the political orientation of the guests he brings on to platform.

Joe Rogan, somebody who is center left is doing a right wing grift? He's brought on both extremes ranging from Bernie Sanders to Alex Jones as well. Your posts just reads like a complete fantasy.

 

[William Munny]

Joe Rogan, somebody who is center left is doing a right wing grift? He's brought on both extremes ranging from Bernie Sanders to Alex Jones as well. Your posts just reads like a complete fantasy.

JImmy Dore is right wing!?

essentially "everyone who disagrees with me is right wing." lol

I guess Cornel West is right wing too?
simple fucksticks these people are.

 

[Barteh]

JImmy Dore is right wing!?

essentially "everyone who disagrees with me is right wing." lol

I guess Cornel West is right wing too?
simple fucksticks these people are.

I come from a country with a multi party system so this strict labeling is even crazier. The biggest winner of our last elections is somebody who by American standards would be considered a Bernie Sanders level socialist, but he is against immigration and against islam so the media portrays him as "extreme right".

It's fucking nuts. Put down a list of 10 different subjects and appoint either left or right to one opinion (already impossible because almost no issue is black or white). I'm on one side with 4 of them and lean towards the other on the other 6, now what? How people manage to label guys like Rogan and Musk as right wing is fucking insane.

 

[William Munny]

I come from a country with a multi party system so this strict labeling is even crazier. The biggest winner of our last elections is somebody who by American standards would be considered a Bernie Sanders level socialist, but he is against immigration and against islam so the media portrays him as "extreme right".

It's fucking nuts. Put down a list of 10 different subjects and appoint either left or right to one opinion (already impossible because almost no issue is black or white). I'm on one side with 4 of them and lean towards the other on the other 6, now what? How people manage to label guys like Rogan and Musk as right wing is fucking insane.

If you don't align, 100 percent of the way with the insane leftist creed, then you are branded as "right wing."

I could say something sensible like, "biological born males who identify as woman shouldn't compete against biological women in sports..." and I would be considered extreme.

there is very little nuance, honesty or objectivity with these people.

 

[Barteh]

If you don't align, 100 percent of the way with the insane leftist creed, then you are branded as "right wing."

I could say something sensible like, "biological born males who identify as woman shouldn't compete against biological women in sports..." and I would be considered extreme.

there is very little nuance, honesty or objectivity with these people.

I could also say something like the republicans are the pro freedom party and the small government party. Then I'd follow that up by saying I'm pro marijuana legalization and suddenly we're already getting stuck because that's supposedly a democrat opinion to have.

Now what? Am I left wing, am I right wing? Or does it depend on whoever I'm arguing with?

 

[William Munny]

I could also say something like the republicans are the pro freedom party and the small government party. Then I'd follow that up by saying I'm pro marijuana legalization and suddenly we're already getting stuck because that's supposedly a democrat opinion to have.

Now what? Am I left wing, am I right wing? Or does it depend on whoever I'm arguing with?

that's a valid point as well, and I've experienced this "either/or" mentality from them too. But I would argue the right is more nuanced than what we see with the new left.

 

[Anewt]

Eh no different to 99% of people who age. The older people seem to get the better they. " were ". My mates do it all the time